I realize that posting a screenshot of a tweet is not the same thing as providing you with the sort of thorough, quality content to which you have become accustomed here at Toast headquarters, and that you probably already have Twitter or can at least look at Twitter even if you don’t have an account, but I could not live with myself if there was even the slightest chance that you missed seeing this. Good morning.
I read this tweet aloud to my family at the dinner table last night, and my sister said, “It’s Oats, not Oh-eights,” and then she rolled her eyes and laughed and I said “Well, I’ve only ever seen it written out, not spoken, and usually an e after the consonant turns the previous vowel into a long one, generally, so there’s precedent for wanting to call it Oh-eights,” and she said “Don’t be ridiculous.”
We had pot roast; it was pretty good. Please feel free to develop your own Joyce Carol Oates-style Batman Logic Syllogisms in the comments. Here’s a starter:
“Though Woody Allen has been much denounced, very likely many of his denouncers think it was pretty fishy, what happened to me on that ladder. You mean, where there’s a fish, there could be a Penguin. But wait! It happened at sea! See? “C” for Catwoman! Yet — that exploding shark was pulling my leg! The Joker! It all adds up to a sinister riddle… Riddle-er. No contradiction?”
Tags: good morning, joyce carol oates is a real wang, oatmeal, please let’s don’t even talk about the guy they’re both talking about, pronunciation, really solid jokes that you should see, terrible people doing terrible things
oats? oh-eights? awaits? joyce carol awaits a terrible fate!
JUST KIDDING THIS IS NOT A THREAT.
ITS NO BIG DEAL, JOYCE CAROL OATES-MEAL.
The added bonus to Oatmeal’s Batman Logic Syllogism is that it is not only terrible she is a terrible person but also, she missed the entire creepy point of Lolita? I just feel so bad for her now. Like I’m sitting here being like…Oh no! Did you think that book was a celebration of Humbert Humbert? How can I help you with this? We don’t know each other but I want to help you.
She’s like those people who read The Onion and get offended because they think it’s real!
Right? Like, isn’t part of being a Famous Author…reading and understanding widely-understood pieces of well-known literature?
No, not at all. All that’s required to be a Famous Author is to write a book that people like, then write another one that receives acclaim, and sooner than you realize you’re a Famous Author held up to standards that we don’t hold our Post Man or our Doctor to. (Except THE Doctor, who needs to be a paragon, dammit.)
This isn’t a slam. It’s just something that always confuses me. No one expects Warhol to have been an expert on Titian. You can be involved something and not be an expert on that something. I’ve never read Lolita, my entire exposure to it is from that Police song. Maybe that was her whole exposure too?
Eh, I wouldn’t expect her to be an expert, but Lolita is SO mainstream that you can’t make it out of HS/college without reading it, and there is not a lot of disagreement/uncertainty out there re: what it’s really about.
Also, if her only exposure is the Police song, then maaaaybe don’t tweet about it?
Also, I wouldn’t expect Warhol to be an expert on Titian, but I would expect him to be able to look at a painting, and understand technique, and why a certain line/color/composition makes sense.
I’m a former English major who was never assigned Lolita and an English teacher who has never assigned the book and has very little interest in reading it on my own. You can’t really assume that everyone with an interest in literature would have read every piece of literature.
That being said, not having read it, I wouldn’t make a comment on Twitter about it regarding a current event.
Sure, but if you’re not very familiar with a certain work, why would you publicly cite it as an example to try to prove a point about something?
I wouldn’t necessarily Warhol to be an expert on Titian, but I would expect him to be familiar with who he is and the basics of his painting. Even more so if Titian was an undisputed master of his art form a la Nabokov. And if Warhol was going around commenting on why Titian was overrated or underrated or a discussion point, I would absolutely expect him to be able to discuss it with some understanding.
No, sorry, that is a bad example. Oates and Nabakov are contemtempararies, more or less. Lolita was published when Oates was 18. This is not true of Warhol and Titian. It is also silly to use the word “expert”. You do not have to be an expert to guess that an extremely popular book about a pedophile might not be celebratory.
I absolutely WOULD expect Warhol to know basic facts about an extremely famous work of art that appeared on the scene near the start of his career. Part of having a job, even a cool job like Famous Artist entails having a basic awareness of important things happening in your field.
It’s fine that you don’t know anything about Lolita (I barely remember anything about it), but you are not a professional novelist who came of age in the 50s (probably).
It makes even less sense when you take out the names. “Though a suspected predator has been much denounced, very likely many of his denouncers admire a well-written book about a fictional predator. No Contradiction?”
That’s approximately like saying people are hypocrites for still being anti-murder in spite of admiring the book “In Cold Blood,” yes? (although In Cold Blood is about non-fictional murder, which either makes it an even better or much worse example).
PS I wrote this after eating a hearty, steamy bowl of oatmeal, so I am clearly exactly the kind of hypocrite Joyce is tweeting about.
oh my god you guys, we’ve been iced in all weekend and have such little food but I HAD FORGOTTEN WE HAD OATMEAL AND NOW I DON’T HAVE TO HAVE WEIRD LEFTOVERS FOR BREAKFAST.
OMG, I had oatmeal for breakfast yesterday and I hadn’t even *seen* the O-weights tweet! Guess I’m an even bigger hypocrite now.
I think some people who read “Lolita,”, while they thoroughly “get” the conceit of Humbert as an unreliable narrator, think that somehow, some way, Nabokov was having his cake and eating it too. “Lolita” contains many succinct indictments of all of society as complicit in the setup for Humbert’s crime; Nabokov of all writers would have been well aware that he was part of that society.
Even more controversial was “Ada,” which many critics derided for what appears on the surface to be complete authorial approval of the amoral behavior of the narrator/writer and his lover. Brian Boyd, Nabokov scholar/obsessive extraordinaire, takes aim successfully at that position in “Nabokov’s Ada: The Place of Consciousness.” I think a similar argument could easily be made in defense of “Lolita.”
Nabokov himself endured some functional abuse as a child at the hands of an adult relative, which he wrote about in “Speak, Memory.”
I certainly hope someone in JCO’s position wouldn’t otherwise so simplemindedly conflate author with protagonist. Nabokov himself would call that a “howler.”
Maybe she’s just trolling. God, I used to admire her quite a bit.
She seems to troll an awful lot, sadly.
Will forever call her Joyce Carol Oates-meal now!
She spoke at my college my freshman year and she was terrible then too.
When I saw that tweet, I was like “How has nobody done this line before?” It was like that time I was sitting in a bodega and a dude walked in and said “Give me a pack of what I is.” And the clerk slid a box of Kools to him. From that day forward I only smoked menthols just so I could say that wherever I went.
The point of this, I guess, is that I need to start smoking again.
We should ALL start smoking again, wasn’t it so great?
OFFICIAL TOAST STANCE- SMOKING IS COOL AND MAKES YOU LOOK DANGEROUS, KIDS.
And when it’s raining or snowing, and you step outside and are spiritually united with all the people who have looked as cool and dangerous as you…
(NO, GUYS, DON’T SMOKE, IT WILL LITERALLY KILL YOU.)
I haven’t had a cigarette in nine years and I still wake up dreaming of that sweet sweet nicotine hit. The husband quit shortly before me and told me that if I started again he’d divorce me and tbqh that’s what’s really stopping me. DELICIOUS NICOTINE.
Ugh menthols though.
I already smoke menthols, but I guess I’ll be switching brands now.
Ugh, I got in an argument with my mom this weekend re: Woody Allen. (“But he’s such a good writer! And I feel like she poisoned the kids against him, etc etc etc.”) NO, STILL MARRIED STEPDAUGHTER, STILL A HORRIBLE CREEP, PLEASE STOP. Oatmeal.
edit: my mother is in most other respects a totally lovely person with generally good judgement, and I love her dearly.
Yeah, I mean, even if you’re subscribing to the “we can never know what happened that day” stance, we CAN know that he married his partner’s daughter, which still puts him in the gross predator hall of infamy, even if that’s the ONLY gross predator monster thing he’s ever done (I don’t think it is).
Yeah, I got into a similar argument with my dad this weekend, it made me CRAZY frustrated and, also, feel incredibly gross about the patriarchy. Not to mention skin-crawl-y about Woody Allen.
Had the exact same exchange with my mom! …and I feel the same way about her (re:edit).
DAH! My mom just emailed me and told me to read “Woody’s OP-Ed” in NYT and “THE WHOLE THING” like that was gonna convince me the dude isn’t a total creep. So I replied saying I had read it among other things and “I’m sorry, I just wouldn’t be so quick to defend such a person.” Then I posted some links to things. I don’t want to argue about this but she started it (the emailing about it).
I am literally eating oatmeal while reading this. Or should I say Joyce Carol Oates-meal?
Me too. Joyce Carol Oatesmeal with a side of self-righteousness.
“Joyce Carol Oats” anagram for “Quaker High Priestess.” No coincidence???
oatesmeal’s entire twitter feed is a swamp of righteous insanity.
“What a week! Now people seem to be claiming that I don’t like “Middlemarch”–of course it is a great novel. Admiration is not (blind) love.”
“To some it may be a surprising fact–even the “guilty”–even the “depraved” & “disgusting”–are supposed to be granted due process of law.”
“Shadows gathering at edge of property. Full moon, when ominous threatening twitterers come to life.”
“Cherie receives all sorts of interesting videos which, being a serious person, I have no time to peruse.”
Who self- identifies as a ‘serious person’? That’s terrible. You’re terrible, Joyce Carol Oates- meal.
… its almost like her tweets are being ghostwritten by a satirist
I wonder if she’s trolling us all.
#nope
“So glad not to be in Sochi! & I am not even gay, or Russian.”
“Someone has claimed to have seen “Dirty Dancing” 1,000 times… Most of us (writers) have novels 1,000 people have not even finished, once.”
@JoyceCarolOates thats terrible youre terrible but thank you for tweeting because now I will never stop laughing ever.
Joyce Carol Oates, you have written a hell of a lot of novels. Too many, in fact. The implication that each of them should have been read by 1,000 people is asking a lot of the reading public.
Also, JCO, do you know how many people there are in the world? To complain that 1,000 of them have not finished your novels is ridiculous.
I just looked up her Wiki page and JESUS CHRIST THAT IS A LOT OF WORDS. Forty NOVELS plus a fuckton of other stuff! Wow that is a lot of material to inflict on the world.
And I would wager NONE of it features “She’s Like The Wind” or watermelons or the immortal line “Nobody puts Baby in a corner.”
Didn’t you know that Joyce Carol Oates wrote the screenplay to Dirty Dancing during what she considered to be a low point, but what everyone knows was the pinnacle of her creative oeuvre?
Please let this be true. Please oh please oh please.
Or that bit where Baby does the thing with her thumbs.
Quick! Someone write a Serious Literary Criticism of Dirty Dancing!
and/or a Femslash Friday about Dirty Dancing
I guarantee you that with 7 billion people on Earth, every single novelist bar none has a novel that at least 1,000 people have not even finished once.
Aw, I am actually highly amused by JCO’s twitter feed most of the time. Maybe it is because I work with professors and those really are the stream of consciousness thoughts of most literature/CW professors in this country. Twitter makes them Dada-esque in this way I cannot get enough of.
“So glad not to be in Sochi! & I am not even gay, or Russian.”
eta: (JINX!)
IT BEARS REPEATING
But can she long-jump ski? Because I would watch that.
Lit’rally can’t stop laughing. Picturing her in the air, all leaned over, decked in a unitard, skis gently flapping through the wind. Joyce Carol Oateslympic Gold Medal.
Joyce Carol Oh Waits’ tweet composition-style veers obnoxiously close to Horse_ebooks territory, without any of the redeeming qualities of imagining a horse-bot type out ridiculous things.
I vote that Mallory should cancel the Sea World parody twitter account and instead get to work on the “Joyce Carole O-Waits” twitter account that is full of smarmy, self righteous, obnoxious things followed by an “oh, wait” glimmer of self-awareness that never quite arrives.
I met her at Berkeley and thought then that she was an idiot. I have carefully avoided her since then.She is still an idiot. However, I do enjoy her breakfast cereal occasionally.
Does Joyce Carol Oates think she’s Joan Didion? FFS, her books aren’t even that good.
Joyce Carol Oates is an anagram of A Arc Jocosely Toe . I broke 3 toes via stepladder on Saturday. Coincidence? Or author-created “accident?” YOU DECIDE!
It is always confusing to me when people are like “I don’t understand why everyone is paying so much attention to this terrible person being terrible when there are other terrible people in the world.” Huh? It makes even less sense when somebody is saying “I don’t understand why everyone is paying so much attention to this terrible person when there was a novel written about a terrible person that some people think is a good novel.”
I think that is the same line of logic that leads someone to insinuate that because his ex-partner had a relationship with a 50 year old when she was 21, she has no right to be upset that her 56-year-old partner had an affair with her 19-year-old daughter and subsequently married her. And then somehow tries to use that same information as evidence that he didn’t molest anybody.
But really, the tweet says all that much more eloquently.
I think the world would be much better served if people a) stopped looking for “hypocrisy” as the ultimate way to discredit someone’s criticism and b) stopped turning everything into a competition. You see this so often with tragedy, i.e. “why do people care about animal rights when there are humans suffering?” We are complex beings, someone can be flawed and still have a good point, and we can care about all kinds of things at the same time. I know, it’s earth-shattering.
no the only way anything with think or do matters is if we are perfect angels
None of us are allowed to complain about anything as long as there is human trafficking.
You have bought coffee that was not fair trade. The gods themselves look down on you in disappointment which is so much worse than anger.
I’d even go a step further and say she has more of a right than most to pass judgment on a 56 year old having an affair with a 19 year old. Not even getting into the fact that the 56 year old was her partner and the 19 year old is her daughter.
Having been the younger woman, she’d understand *from first-hand experience* how a relationship like that could be unhealthy or bad for the younger woman.
Famous person unable to cope with the possibility that famousness might be less-than-perfect insulation from consequences for wrongdoing. See also, “rape rape.”
I am genuinely unsure about whether she’s using the shocking hypocrisy of Woody-Allen-denouncers-Lolita-admirers to criticize them for admiring Lolita or for denouncing Woody Allen. Is it clear to anyone else?
Seemed to me she’s using it as a back-door defense of Allen, though not brave enough (that I’ve seen anyway) to come out and say leave Woody aloooooone!
#TeamHumbert
joyce carol malt o meal
I prefer joyce carol cream of wheat
it’s better than joyce carol grits in my opinion, but I’m not from The South.
JOYCE CAROL CHEESE GRITS 4EVA
add some joyce carol grape nuts to any of these for some tasty texture
joyce carol oates bran cereal
no one has ever eaten it as cereal, only ever made it into muffins, but she will never stop being angry because GUYS THAT WASN’T HER INTENTION.
Joyce Cracklin’ Oate Bran
Cracklin’ Oat Bran is my favorite old-person-esque cereal; HOW DID YOU KNOW
SO GOOD. It looks like dog food and tastes like magic.
Well, she can go burn in a Pale Fire.
…and that’s alls I gots right now.
It’s weird that Joyce Carol Oates would have such difficulty understanding the difference between enjoying something in fiction and condoning it in real life. I really enjoyed the movie American Psycho but I’m not in favor of giving awards to actual serial killers.
I really enjoyed The Passage, but I don’t like dying at the hands of disease-ridden vampire creatures in real life.
I really DIDN’T enjoy Twilight but I think it’d be cool to meet a sparkly piano-playing vampire in real life.
I enjoyed* Lord of the Flies, but I’m not cool with smashing a kid’s glasses and then his face. TO DEATH.
*enjoyed might be a strong word. It impacted me but also made me, at 16, very uncomfortable because I’m pretty sure I’d be the kid who gets her face smashed in first.
And she of all people, who writes creepy things! Tell me “Wild Nights” wasn’t creepy. Tell me “Foxfire” wasn’t violent and scary. Go on, tell me. I enjoyed her writing, and am disappointed to learn that she’s actually annoying and hypocritical? I mean the Mark Twain section of Wild Nights, really. Especially.
She is an award winning author of books about HORRIBLE people! Genuinely disturbing. Lots of incest, lots of murder, she’s even wrote a book Zombie, about a killer who was a cannibal. I can’t figure out if it means that she thinks everyone who admires her books sympathizes with cannibals? Or That she wrote her books is a properly censorious tone? ( I didn’t read it, no thanks) Or has she completely forgotten that she’s written anything?
Okay-Whatever, Joyce Carol.
Mallory, I take great joy in knowing someone else’s family ALSO takes great joy in discovering words they’ve been mispronouncing their whole lives.
/solidarity
For an embarrassingly long portion of my life, there was a part of my brain that knew the letter sequence e-p-i-t-o-m-e and its meaning, and another part of my brain that knew the sound sequence /əˈpɪtəmi/ and its meaning, but did not connect the two together.
lol girl who are all the people out there being like “woody allen’s a piece of shit, but i just can’t get enough of lolita right now”
Well, just this morning, I uttered the phrases “Lolita, one of the greatest novels ever written” and “Woody Allen, that fuckin’ creep.”
But Lolita’s greatness comes in part from how it gracefully maneuvers us into what Humbert presumes to be sympathy while keeping us actually suspended in dread and sick horror at his actions and his certainty, then lets him break through to his own dread horror at the very end, while Woody Allen is not an edifying fictional monster but at best a fuckin’ creep who married his children’s sibling.
I had already been having a hard time reconciling a fondness for his early films and writing forged in my childhood and young adulthood with my own growing awareness of how his persona (and, y’know, his actual self) treats women, and then this stuff hit like a brick. Should I have been keyed into this before the Twitterstorm? Probably. Was I deeply in denial about someone who’d once been among my favorite filmmakers and a lifelong influence? Absolutely.
I have a long history of (sometimes half-heartedly) recommending Woody Allen films to look back on and dissect. I’ll have to put him in the Roman Polanski pile and think hard about what I’m willing to write.
no girl I know I just mean it’s hilarious that she’s acting like there have been a ton of people running around saying “Woody Allen is a monster, but let’s not lose sight of the real issue here: how good a book ‘Lolita’ was.”
Let me clarify: what I really meant by that was “Lolita rules, Woody Allen is gross, and Joyce Carol Oates sure sounds like a sententious ninny.”
SENTENTIOUS
edit: I mean to say what a fine word
Reading this isolated tweet, it sounds like she’s a ninny who utterly missed the point of Lolita, the way Nabokov wraps the reader in a web of Humbert’s mixed admission of dreadful acts mixed with Humbert’s tacit and repeated certainty that we do secretly empathize with him.
But reading what else she has to say about Nabokov and Lolita, it becomes clear that she’s worse than a ninny. She’s saying that as a writer, she’s better positioned to understand Nabokov’s feelings about his work than other readers or, say, the thousands of literary critics who’ve examined the work. That is some straight-up Appeal To Authority bullshit, as well as being hilariously misguided reading.
(The Dylan Farrow/Woody Allen stuff she’s tweeting is UGH and further reveals her failures of understanding. If you really can’t imagine why someone who claims abuse by a powerful adult would continue to speak up – for just one example, in hopes that the same still-powerful adult gets extra scrutiny in his dealings with similarly positioned children? Then you might be lacking in imagination and empathy, two qualities usually necessary to great writing.)
Particularly when at least part of the literary merit of Lolita is predicated specifically on the fact that it makes you sympathize, however briefly, with Humbert Humbert SO THAT you then feel revulsion about that, and subsequently realize that Nabokov is a genius. To suggest that Nabokov himself sympathizes with Humbert is really to cheapen his work and remove a layer of meaning from it (which, frankly, cutting down other writers does seem to be her sort of thing, so I almost kind of wonder if she’s doing it intentionally?).
Exactly: the complexity of emotion and sensation summoned up by Nabokov’s impossibly evocative writing is the heart of Lolita, and making the reader both complicit and horrified is the point.
If JCO managed to miss that, she’s not only not the high authority she’s positioning herself to be; she’s an especially dim reader.
Sounds like she’s really invested in her self-image as A Writer, which is consistent with how she’s seemed to me hitherto.
This is the first time I’ve read her tweet and I do not understand her logic. I tried to read her book about teen girls ritually sacrificing their younger classmate. Is she pro child sacrifice? I guess I’m not because I couldn’t read it. I’ve enjoyed Lolita, but I don’t think Humbert is a cool dude. And anyway Nabokov isn’t Humbert. I know the difference between real life and fiction. Does she?
I loved that oatmeal tweet. In Canada, we had a cereal commercial with 2 guys yelling “But it’s naw oatmeal!” in Scottish accents at each other and now I’m going to think of it whenever I see her name.
Edit: I found the series of ads on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWfIOgsNDRY Enjoy!
I read that teen ritual sacrifice book and found it to be lackluster & was weirdly upset about it, like, I had really high hopes for this book about teen ritual sacrifice and felt very let down when those hopes were dashed.
Haha, I have used the exact phrase “I don’t think Humbert is a cool dude” in talking to people about Lolita! Whenever I read it in public I wish I could put a sticker on my copy that says that? I guess that is tacitly giving in to this Oates-ian insanity, though.
Those ads are fantastic. WHY won’t they use more Scottish actors* to sell us things in the US??
*I know why–because Americans are perceived as too stupid to understand the accent. 🙁
You might think that until you’ve heard everyone you know do their own impersonation of those guys.
It’s nae tha’ I’m too stupid, I just need closed captionin’, wee one. P.S. Joyce Carol Steel-Cut Scottish Oates. Just so you know I’m paying attention.
I dunno, I live in Canada and I deal with a few Scottish people for work and I wish I had closed captioning in real life because it takes me like thirty extra seconds to parse their accent. And I try!!! Really hard!!!
(I also sometimes wish my phone came with closed captioning when dealing with people with very strong accents from Newfoundland also the southern US because phones are hard.)
Though a man with a daughter-wife has been much denounced, men with both wives *and* daughters are much admired. CONTRADICTION?
*sits back smugly*
Right?! Men are always accused of being unable to multitask. At least this one is trying!
(Ugh, I feel kind of squicky even making that joke. Ugh.)
I think the moment I decided that JCO was garbage was when I read Black Girl/White Girl, in which a black girl directs racially motivated acts of harassment at herself with the intention that they be blamed on well-to-do white girls on her campus.
At the same time, Foxfire is still a really resonant book for me and JCO’s novels are like car wrecks that I can’t stop myself from slowing down to look at. She keeps writing and it keeps getting worse and I keep reading it.
YES to Foxfire (and not to the terrible movie with baby Angelina Jolie, because that was so silly, why?). Her stuff is so depressing and long-winded. I read *them* once and it was so depressing – that thing where you say the end of the book is “everybody died and the world exploded”? It was like that, except everyone was still alive and depressed.
I do appreciate her ability to express super awkward sexual feelings and encounters. Some of the ones I’ve read are so creepy and internal that I start to think that everyone thinks these things, and maybe I’ve been feeling this all along too.
Also I will put in a plug for Blackwater, her novella about the death of a girl in Ted Kennedy*ahem* The Senator’s car, loosely based on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incid….
She is weird and crazy and interesting. If nothing else, for how much she has written.
Yes! I read Blackwater (I kind of can’t not read JCO, even though I find most of her books frustrating) & it was so good. In the wake of Ted Kennedy’s death I bought all of that positive rhetoric about him being the ~lion of the senate~ or whatever SO HARD – Blackwater is kind of what kept me grounded in that arena.
She spoke at a writing festival at my college. I don’t remember anything about it other than she talked a lot about rescue animals and not much about writing. Later I saw her in the bathroom and she looked really nervous/edgy/like a chihuhua.
Is there a possibility she is a vampire/Yorkshire Terrier?
I’ve had the grate privilege of taking a fiction workshop with JCO (“Joyce” as I called her because like I’m gonna call her anything else when I see one of her tweets and sigh with exasperation, “Joooooyyyyyyyccceeee what are you doooinnnnng”) and she presents herself in person EXACTLY the way her twitter would lead you to believe.
So in case you feel uncomfortable making personal judgments about her based on social media, DON’T.
I have been following her on twitter for a while and all this time I either thought she was intentionally making up weird/stupid lines of reasoning, tongue-in-cheek style, or I would just be confused and move on to an actual comedian’s ramblings or some shit. It never occurred to me that a woman of her stature would actually mean such things. Basically, unless something is oozing seriousness, I assume that everything on twitter is a joke.
Wait, WHAT!?
(I do denounce Woody Allen, and Lolita is one of my favourite books…but I’m pretty sure I’m not a pedophile, JCO.)
Ugh I just remembered a 1 am phone call with a friend about Woody Allen and now I am angry all over again.
“oh-TEZ” ???
That’s the LOLcats pronunciation, yes?
And I still don’t understand why’d she’d reach for a comparison in literature when Roman Polanski is still making movies?
Hall > Oates, in any case.
You know where else they read Lolita?
That’s right. In Tehran.
I just checked and no one has yet hopped on the still-available @JoyceCarolOats twitter handle. TIME IS A-WASTING, PEOPLE.
Is this the place to admit that I can’t stop reading articles about Woody Allen and Dylan Farrow, and I keep reading the comments (WHY DO I READ THE COMMENTS) and people are so horrible to her, so aggressive in saying that Woody must be given the benefit of the doubt, and it hurts me and I can’t stop. I don’t know why. It’s awful.
I share your pain. I have read dozens of articles, then I read the comments and get more and more sad. It’s heartbreaking how people can be so vicious about a child.
yep. >_<
Wow your sister sounds really smart and also beautiful, what the French call je ne sais quoi.
laura you’re what the french call les incompetents
SENTENTIOUS
edit: I mean to say what a fine word
yep. >_<
Yes! I read Blackwater (I kind of can't not read JCO, even though I find most of her books frustrating) & it was so good. In the wake of Ted Kennedy's death I bought all of that positive rhetoric about him being the ~lion of the senate~ or whatever SO HARD – Blackwater is kind of what kept me grounded in that arena.