I Need To Talk To Someone About The “Hidden Killers” Series -The Toast

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And more specifically, its host, historian Suzannah Lipscomb. The show itself is more less exactly what it says on the tin, with titles like “Hidden Killers of the Victorian Home” “Hidden Killers of the Edwardian Home” and “New Hidden Killers of the Victorian Home;” each episode runs about 55 minutes but could easily be condensed into 30 if you eliminated the unnecessary framing shots of portcullises and dramatic pauses after questions like “Could this be a hidden killer?” (Yes. It could, and it was.)

Here’s a representative episode:

This is the greatest series on television, and I will tell you exactly why. Firstly, it makes you feel like you are doing something intellectual, when in fact you are merely absorbing a bullet list of fairly well-known facts (The Victorians used lead in children’s toys and arsenic in wallpaper. This was unhealthy. Etc). It’s just the right amount of information. You feel less stupid without actually learning anything.

Secondly, Suzannah Lipscomb has the most mesmerizing voice of any human being currently living above ground. I hear it, and I become Ursula the Sea Witch. I want to snatch it out of her throat in a glowing green ball, stuff it into a seashell, wear it around my neck forever, and transform myself into a glorious brunette bitch-queen. It’s ver-r-r-y deep and lush and all Received Pronunciation, like she’s got a mouthful of warm marbles, sure, but it comes with a bonus feature: the slightest and most endearing of lisps. Every third “s” comes with a little juicy flourish, and waiting for it is like listening for hoofsteps on the roof on Christmas Eve.

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She is beautiful beyond the lot of mortal women, to be sure, that’s also a part of it. Her hair curls in a manner I’ve never seen on anyone else. It cannot be described, only appreciated. She has tassels of it. She wears a nose ring and she looks like if Taylor Swift had a child with a beautiful swan, and that child received a doctorate in Restoration-era Languedoc.

But many women are beautiful, I hear you say, and you are right. It is not only that she has the face of a maiden Mary Poppins. It is everything: the fact that she wears a vivid red dress in every appearance, like Mr. Rogers’ beloved red sweater; her ability to rephrase “But could [X] have really been a hidden killer?” in ten thousand different ways; the way she glances suspiciously at butter dishes and doorknobs.

And then there is Dr. Kate Williams. Dr. Kate is a frequent guest of Dr. Lipscomb’s, and she reveals every fact about unsafe lighting practices and the dangers of gas in the home as if she were imparting to you the most precious gossip.

This is how Dr. Kate explains that Edwardians were interested in electricity: with incredulous eyebrows, a shocked mouth, and furrows in the brow that seem to say, Look, you didn’t hear this from me, but

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This is what Dr. Kate looks like when explaining that the Victorians liked to be clean. This is the face of a TMZ source!

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Can you believe it, Dr. Kate says. Can you believe these bakers, adding aluminum and plaster of Paris to their bread dough, to their Victorian customers, thereby becoming one of the hidden killers of the Victorian home?

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We cannot believe it. Help us with our unbelief.

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I love this show for being both historically factual and completely melodramatic at the same time. Her hair is basically her co-presenter. Have you seen the one where she enters a cold pond in Elizabethan dress to show how easy it was to drown? Amazing.
5 replies · active 493 weeks ago
YES YES YES this is what I watched when I finished with all the seasons of GBBO that had aired at the time. I was legit a little afraid of stairs after watching the Victorian episode.
4 replies · active 493 weeks ago
I just watched this entire series over the weekend along with The Poisoner's Handbook. Conclusion: The past was smegging scary. Which I knew, but it's nice to have a reminder to appreciate the 21st century every once in awhile. I agree with every single sentiment expressed about Suzannah Lipscomb and will add to it; that red lipstick, day-um.
3 replies · active 493 weeks ago
Wait wait at 4:45 there's a jolly roger graphic cartwheels over the hidden killer BREAD omg
Also, this is the most BBC show that the Beeb has ever Beebed. Sandi Toksvig once said, "God bless the BBC; when everyone else is trying to make lowest-common-denominator television, you can turn on BBC 4 and hear a soothing RP voice say, 'And now, for Part Four of the History of the Mattress'."

This is the epitome of that.
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Sporkening · 493 weeks ago

"the uploader has not made this video available in your country"

GODDAMNIT YOUTUBE YOU TEASE. This sounded like the perfect thing to watch/listen to while cleaning. The thought of perishing in a detergent-related freak accident is rarely far from my mind anyway.
7 replies · active 471 weeks ago
Okay, Susanna whatsherface....but Dr. Kate's voice! That huskiness! I swoon. Tell me more, Dr. Kate. Tell me more.
I also appreciate watching these on youtube, where they cut dramatically for commercial ("Could THIS be a KILLER...? FADE TO BLACK) and then it comes back immediately to say "yeah, yup, this definitely killed people"...as if we were not aware of the title of the show and that everything they talk about killed people.
Well, so much for finishing the book I'm reading, as I'll probably be binge-watching this tonight. Goddamn it, and I was THISCLOSE to properly adulting for the whole day! Not one single regret.
If we must gossip about BBC history presenters' personal styles, [yes, we must] then I'll say that Dr Lucy Worsley looks like the most chic 60s schoolgirl in the world, and Janina Ramirez is very appropriately romantic goth for her excellent series on Britain's viking-doomed monasteries.
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*examines fingernails* well, she's no Lucy Worsley, but I suppose she's alright.
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Not to be this girl, but I am this girl, so what can you do: apparently a lot of the bread adulteration rumours might be false, and I have googled and found the Bill Bryson quote, from 'At Home.'

"...it was common for bakers to add bean meal, chalk, white lead, slaked lime and bone ash to every loaf they made. [...] Even now these assertions are routinely reported as fact even though it was demonstrated pretty conclusively over seventy years ago by Frederick A Filby in his classic work 'Food Adulteration' that the claims could not possibly be true. Filby too the interesting and obvious step of baking loaves of bread using the accused adulterants in the manner and proportions described. In every case but one the bread was either as hard as concrete of failed to set at all, and nearly all the loaves smelled or tasted disgusting. Several needed more baking time than conventional loaves, and so were actually more expensive to produce. Not one of the adulterated loaves was edible.
"The fact of the matter is that bread is sensitive stuff and if you put foreign products into it in almost any quantity it is bound to become apparent.[...] Although some adulteration doubtless did happen, particularly when it enhanced colour or lent an appearance of freshness, most cases of claimed adulteration are likely to be either exceptional or untrue..."
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something about her posture confuses me...
Life Goal #8: Become BBC history programme presenter.

(If this can be combined with Life Goal #5 (followed at all times by fleet of tiny spaniels) then so much the better.)
4 replies · active 493 weeks ago
And Judith Flanders! I one day randomly picked up her Inside the Victorian Home in a store and fell in LOVE. Victorian silliness really doesn't interest me but I had no idea how absurd it really was.
I wonder if the Victorian-living couple furnish their house like this? Because, you know, it would be so *accurate*.
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Kate Kane · 493 weeks ago

That second Dr. Kate still in particular gives her a little something Freddie Lounds-ish to her...

Could Victorian murder husbands be killers? Well, I mean, yes.
I'm here for Sister Wendy. Who else spent many class periods being made uncomfortable by Sister Wendy's dramatic appreciation for the great nudes of Western Art History?
3 replies · active 493 weeks ago
dr kate was also featured on the biscuit episode of the latest series of the great british bakeoff where she educated us on the history of the mcvitie's biscuit. i am absolutely floored by the fact that i remembered this (and am questioning all the choices that led me to this place in my life, obvs.)
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Zardeenah · 493 weeks ago

I dearly love the Welsh electrician with the world's softest voice. If I could only teach my children to speak like he does.

Soft Welsh secrets (of science)...
I have really appreciated the lst couple of years of BBC history programmes - so many of them, and almost all presented by women and with all the 'visiting experts' also women. It has made me very happy and I've really noticed it.
Suzannah Lipscomb taught my very first seminar at university! It was on witches! She was brilliant and lovely and gave everyone sweets!
HERE FOR THIS. I didn't think I could love any beautiful historical BBC presenter more than I love Dr Janina Ramirez and her dramatic eyeliner and her impractical sexy leather boots and her ability to make middle-aged tweedy academics go cross-eyed by standing next to them nodding attentively, but Suzannah Lipscomb might just have to share that crown.

In fact......

In FACT......



I KNEW THE VIBE WAS FAMILIAR
Well, my heart belongs to Lucy Worsley. If you have seen her series on the Regency, particularly where she does man drag as Beau Brummell....who could resist?
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I do not get the popularity of Lucy Worsley. Her watered-down history and style of presenting is so grating to me that whenever I see a new history series is presented by her, I always sigh and skip over it. But I really like Amanda Vickery, whose history has a bit more heft to it, and when she walks on camera it actually looks natural. Look her up on YouTube for her "At Home with the Georgians" for an exceptional series!

I've watched enough of the "Women Historians Presenting Social History" shows to have become hypersensitive to the way they package them. I can just heard the conversations of the production team: "She's too dowdy. We have to make her and the history look sexy." "What if we were to put her in high heels and a dangerously tight skirt? Some leather, perhaps?" The poor scholar protests that she's never worn stiletto boots, but they are adamant. And so you get these painful video shots of them walking awkwardly across a cobblestone street trying desperately to look like they are striding confidently.
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SI Rosenbaum · 493 weeks ago

ok but is there slash of it because Reasons
I'm 15 minutes in and they're talking about the squishy spines and I'm like, completely horrified. (I say this as someone who has squishy bones too it's very hypocritical of me.)
Can we also talk about Lucy Worsley then at some point? Her vaguely retro fashions and trim bob? Her strong arms, and how she always seems to be winking at the camera? She has everything I ever wanted in a historian.
'Why would you not poison your husband and go off and be a merry widow? Why not?"

Why not indeed... :looksaroundslyly:

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