Ayn Rand’s If You Give A Mouse A Cookie -The Toast

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looterIf you give a mouse a cookie, he’s going to ask for a glass of milk, because charity encourages helplessness and ingratitude.

When you give him the milk, he’ll probably ask you for a straw. Altruism does not result in gratefulness; it results in a sense of expectation and entitlement in the receiver. He has been given something for nothing. What have you taught him about the value of his own labor? Nothing. You have given him not a cookie but your own self-esteem. When he’s finished, he’ll ask you for a napkin, and you will have no grounds on which to deny him, for you have conditioned him to suckle uselessly at your teat. Then he’ll want to look in a mirror to make sure he doesn’t have a milk mustache.

When he looks in the mirror, he might notice his hair needs a trim. So he’ll probably ask for a pair of nail scissors. His misfortune is not a mortgage on your well-being.

To whom would you rather give that cookie – men who could not equal the power of your mind, but who would equal your moral integrity, who could never approach you in stature, but who would do their best, work as hard as you did, live by their own effort, and – eating that cookie – give a moment’s silent thanks to the man who gave them more than they could give him?

Or would you rather see it eaten by whining rotters, who proclaim that you are not to be paid, neither in matter nor in spirit, neither by wealth nor by recognition, nor by respect nor by gratitude?

You would rather see the cookie smashed and scattered to the winds first.

When he’s finished giving himself a trim, he’ll want a broom to sweep it up. He’ll start sweeping. He might get carried away and sweep every room in the house. He may even end up washing the floors as well. Do not hide behind such superficialities as whether you should or should not give a cookie to a mouse. That is not the issue. The issue is whether you do or do not have the right to exist without giving him that cookie. The issue is whether you must keep buying your life, cookie by cookie, from any mouse who might choose to approach you. The issue is whether the need of others is the first mortgage on your life and the moral purpose of your existence. The issue is whether man is to be regarded as a sacrificial animal. Any man of self-esteem will answer: “No.” Altruism says: “Yes.”

mouse cookieWhen he’s done, he’ll probably want to take a nap. You’ll have to fix up a little box for him with a blanket and a pillow (you have to do nothing; the illusion of obligation exists here only in your mind). He’ll crawl in, make himself comfortable and fluff the pillow a few times. He’ll probably ask you to read him a story. Will you forever acquiesce? What is his claim on your sacrifice, and where does it end?

So you’ll read to him from one of your books, and he’ll ask to see the pictures. When he looks at the pictures, he’ll get so excited he’ll want to draw one of his own. Will you surrender all your values to him? And if so, what will he do with them?

He’ll ask for paper and crayons. He has no right to them, but he will ask for them regardless. He’ll draw a picture. When the picture is finished, he’ll want to sign his name with a pen. Then he’ll want to hang his picture on your refrigerator. Which means he’ll need Scotch tape. He’ll hang up his drawing and stand back to look at it. You are a vegetable waiting to be eaten.

Looking at the refrigerator will remind him that he’s thirsty. If you exchange a penny for a dollar, it is not a sacrifice; if you exchange a dollar for a penny, it is. If you achieve the career you wanted, after years of struggle, it is not a sacrifice; if you then renounce it for the sake of a rival, it is. If you own a bottle of milk and give it to your starving child, it is not a sacrifice; if you give it to your neighbor’s child and let your own die, it is.

So he’ll ask for a glass of milk. And chances are if he asks you for a glass of milk, he’s going to want a cookie to go with it.

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Teka Lynn · 503 weeks ago

I much prefer this version. That mouse is not entitled to your cookie.
In my experience, mice prefer Froot Loops to cookies. But that's just a small sample size.
My mom's mice like tootsie rolls. But this is how I feel about the giving tree book.

I enjoy the circular nature of the mouse stories, because as books on tape they go on and on forever and my children are endlessly entertained and I get to go to bed instead of reading 6 more books and falling asleep on their rug.
Mousocher?
Eh, it kinda works.
3 replies · active 501 weeks ago
"His misfortune is not a mortgage on your well-being." I love that line. I will be using that next time someone asks me to do something last minute.
2 replies · active 502 weeks ago
Wasn't it Randian anyway? The mouse is a useless layabout whom helping will only serve to further his ceaseless cycle of dependency.
4 replies · active 501 weeks ago
Why do I feel that Mallory as Ayn Rand could totally win the Republican primary
1 reply · active 502 weeks ago
The mouse received a cookie, milk, and the use of some household supplies. The mouse cleaned the human's entire house.

I feel like this is a reasonable exchange of goods and services, and that the human arguably got the better end of the deal.
8 replies · active 449 weeks ago
The greatest/truest Randian, I just realized after reading this, was the fascist leader of the "surrogate band" in Pink Floyd's The Wall, who pulls different types out of the crowd and then finally - honestly - declares "if I had my way, I'd have all of you shot." Rand's passively murderous/genocidal ethos was a public mask for her active murder fantasies (as seen in her avid fascination with serial killer William Edward Hickman, to whom she referred as a "Superman" - no joke).
1 reply · active 503 weeks ago
Needs more trains.
But what if the story you read him is one of Mallory's previous Ayn Rand rewrites? Would he learn self-respect, and to masterfully have sex, and to love trains? Like, a lot?
We are all just vegetables, waiting to see Who Will Eat Us.
The real ending to the sentence that begins "If you give a mouse a cookie..." should be "it'll be one less for you to stuff in your fat mouth so the mouse is doing you a favor."
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Stephen Hooper · 503 weeks ago

And if you give Paul Ryan Social Security Survivors Benefits, he'll go away to college, become an Ayn Rand disciple, drive the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile, get elected to congress, then act like a wiener and try to destroy the very program that got him through school in the first place.
If MRA is substituted for mouse, this story becomes factual.
This from a woman who ended up claiming social security.
4 replies · active 502 weeks ago
I have given countless cookies in my lifetime and there was only one person, and I mean one that asked for more. And that mouse that kept asking for years had something wrong with her mentally. All the rest of the 'mouses" (so derogatory by the way as if they are pests or parasites) were so grateful and went on to give to other mouses. Sometimes the altruism was reciprocated back to me. But I don't understand how Ayn Rand can get off thinking that we all don't need help from each other...that no one is is exempt from needing help. Not even the wealthiest of people are exempt. Our social nature of helping one another is a human quality, and to deny that is to deny we are human. It is why we have survived as opposed to bacteria that eat up every resource and give nothing. There will never be a time in a person's life where they don't need help in some form or fashion, and I highly doubt Ayn Rand got away with not needing help. I know she received Social Security. I think her philosophy is used to mask her being just an outright sociopath asshole.
See http://www.essentialhayek.com for reasons why we have different rules for dealing with intimates (like cute mice) and strangers (like Rand's "looters"). To mix the two in this context is pretty damned funny though.
"What have you taught him about the value of his own labor?"

That he should get a job, have the surplus value his labor produced for the capitalist taken away from him, and then receive only a tiny fraction of it in return.
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Bryan Ekers · 502 weeks ago

Ayn Rand's original title for this piece was "Ratlas Shrugged."
Vivid proof, if anyone needed it, that Randian thought is just gussied-up selfishness.
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Bryan Ekers · 502 weeks ago

A message board I belong to noticed your article and ran with the theme - "If You Give a Mouse a Cookie" by other authors: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.ph...

A few years back, we did the same for "Lord of the Rings." I myself wrote a brief Ayn Rand version: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.ph...
Summed up: You either enrich me, or your life has no purpose. (in fact, you are probably detracting from the sum total of life)
See, part of me understands the need to be a little selfish in the interest of self-care. Part of me understands that not everyone can be one-hundred percent charitable and giving of every piece of themselves, and sometimes, people need to take care of themselves first, so they can then go on to continue to take care of others. Part of me understands that sometimes it's just not possible for someone to be charitable, for whatever reason.

However, another part of me thinks that "if you're nice to someone, then they'll just walk all over you because you showed them that all they have to do is ask and you'll give it to them!" is bullshit 99.9% of the time. (I do admit, there are people out there who would be lazy and mooch off of a kind person, but that's not going to stop me from being kind to others and giving what I can when I can, and the idea that we should stop being charitable to others who need and deserve it simply because some people can and will take advantage of you for it is selfish nonsense.)

On the other hand, being kind and charitable to people with the expectation that you'll get something out of it is also selfish as hell. Sometimes, you need to be charitable because it's the right thing to do, not because you'll get something out of it.
Strikes me that the best way to do 'Randian rewrites' is just to take your source and make it wordy, dull, and doctrinaire...
Strikes me that the best way to do 'Randian rewrites' is just to take your source and make it wordy, dull, and doctrinaire...
Spot on with this write-up, I absolutely believe this site needs a lot more attention. I'll probably be back again to see more, thanks for the information!

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