The Convert Series: Tamelonie Thomas -The Toast

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I like talking with people who have changed religions. Here is one of them. Previously: Kellee Nicole.

Tamelonie Thomas is a, writer, activist, and pre-law student in Georgia.

Hi, Tamelonie! Can you tell me a little bit about your religious background growing up, as well as an overview of what atheism/agnosticism means to you now?

I am a Black woman who grew up attending African American Southern Baptist and Church of Christ congregations. Atheism is usually judged and assigned as a lack of faith which I view as being very narrow. To me, no belief in something is just as much as a stance as a belief in something and is not about a lack of anything.

Being an atheist to me means being free and open to the unknown as I view belief as encompassing all that there is and isn’t. There are some religious observers who share a free-thinking stance and that in itself shows the ability of free-thinking to coincide with religion as they accept the possibility of other beliefs to be correct.

To me, if there was a God, then I do not believe that there would be a beginning, middle, and end that could concisely represent him/her/them in entirety as I believe that God would someone/thing that is infinite. I have began a more stringent and disciplined spiritual journey this past month that has involved me reading Taoist and Buddhist texts and I am seeing where that leads me. I find more comfort in philosophies without deities. The meaning in my atheism does not solely surround my belief in a lack of a deity (as we popularly construct the idea of one through many western religions) but it is more surrounded by the acceptance of the unknown and that there are infinite possibilities. That is why I declare myself an agnostic/atheist which changes on any given day as I am still constructing what both words and definitions entirely mean for me. Being an atheist allows for me to freely and truthfully decipher what I feel and what I learn.

So pretty much what I have constructed as being meaningful icludes all that is also not meaningful to me. With Buddhism I have learned how to create the right questions and I have learned that ‘What is the meaning of life?’ is an impossible question and not that because it is difficult, but because it discounts what is not meaningful to us which is the entirety of life’s existence. I have learned that learning what is not meaningful to me is equally as important and valuable as learning what is meaningful to me and all of it is a part of my atheist/agnostic experience. I do not view myself as having a lack of anything.

Do you remember when you first encountered the idea of atheism? What did you think of it? When did you first start to think, “Oh, this might describe me”?

My first encounter with atheism came in the form of sermons that denounced non-believers. Then, being a young devout Christian (although I hated going to church) I thought negatively of those who did not adhere to the Bible or Christian teachings. I was taught and believed that they were going to burn in Hell upon their death.

When I started to identify with atheism, it came at a time after I began to move away from Christianity into a more spiritual/nature-based focus on life and meaning. It was a gradual process of being a Ben Carson-approved literal believer in the Bible to believing the stories were allegories to not believing the Bible was written by God but by scribes to “there really is no one religion.” Labeling is weird. I feel like so much and so many can fit under the label of atheist depending on their view. I realized that I could be considered atheist when I no longer felt like I could identify with being Christian. That left me with no religion as I had a clean slate and had opened my beliefs up to all possibilities. I also stopped believing in God as I realized that my belief in God and identity of God was still deeply rooted in Christian theology (male, spirit that creates all, gives free will, 24/7 surveillance, etc.)

How have you been able to talk about your atheism with other people? Do you find they have a lot of preconceived ideas of what atheism means?

I have told my friends that I am atheist. They have been very accepting as one of my closest friends is also atheist. The other is a Christian but is a millennial-type Christian who typically does not attend church outside of holidays and is open to other world views. I have not told my family that I am atheist. At this point they just know that I do not attend church and to them if you are not a member of the Church of Christ then you are not a true Christian anyway. Church of Christ is the church of my maternal side of the family. I found out recently that they are considered a cult. It has been easy publicly self-identifying as Atheist as the world is more open and accepting. I think that many people believe that atheists are cynical and (negative connotation) nihilist. Google even uses nihilism as a synonym. We still have a long way to go to get people informed and to change the narrative on atheists being those people who sit behind a computer and write about how awful God and religion is in the comment sections of the Internet.

It’s interesting that you’ve gone from being part of a religious group that’s seen by some as a cult to a member of a group that is sometimes perceived, as you say, to include a lot of rude, anonymous online commenters. Do you feel like you’ve often had to correct other people’s preconceptions of your beliefs?

I feel that I have had to correct or redefine other people’s preconceptions about my beliefs, but not out of necessity, but out of wanting to be transparent and open. I also want to create dialogue that others may be too afraid to start. I openly tell others that I am agnostic/atheist and that I can answer and discuss anything they would like.

My hope is that we get more respect from others with different beliefs. Me telling someone that I am atheist should not be an open invitation to their religion. I would like to see more representation in the mainstream. I would like to see the unhappy atheist idea challenged and changed around, especially in mainstream entertainment.

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Once again, I love this series! The religious converts have been very informative on different spiritualties I didn't even know existed (last weeks was wonderful!) and as a fellow woman atheist I love the 'deconvert' ones! I live in the Midwest, so atheists are a bit hard to come by, and even then, most of them are male. It is nice knowing I am not alone!
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Really? It must be something geographical because I'm in the Northeast, and while I'm not an atheist anymore myself, so many people are. I feel like nowadays it's almost de rigueur to be an atheist.
Yeah, that's extremely regional. Most places in the Midwest and the South, you get a ton of distrust, even hate, from just about everyone around you if you're forthright about being an atheist. Doesn't matter the context, people are quick to tell you how wrong you are and where you'll end up in the afterlife.
Yeah, I live in Missouri and I am extremely careful to keep my atheism in the closet. Most people I've met, where the topic has come up, literally believe that atheists cannot be good and moral people.
Ugh, and it's such a vicious circle. It's not morally incumbent on you or any other individual to out yourself in order to to educate people, but I know the gay community faced the same kind of dilemma decades ago, as the movie MILK illustrated. So many people thought they didn't know any gay people, because they were all in the closet. And it's so hard to see how perceptions will change unless people come to realize that people they know and love, people who are indeed good and moral, are also atheists. But again, it's not your duty to out yourself and suffer their prejudice.
Yeah, it's a balancing act honestly? Where there is low risk, I'm appropriately open about being areligious and atheist. It does make a difference to just be chill about it, especially once people have gotten to know me and see how much I work at being consciously ethical.
It definitely is VERY different in various parts of the country.

I grew up in an atheist family, and I spent most of my life in relatively diverse areas (upstate New York and northeast Ohio) where that wasn't a big deal at all.

When I was working at an ACLU office in Cleveland, though, I used to hear stories from attorneys at other branches (especially in the South) where their clients were getting death threats, having their houses firebombed, etc. For instance, if they were involved in cases challenging prayer in schools.

Also, my co-worker's family (who were Southern Baptists) all told her she was going to hell for working there...
Ah, that must be that Christian love people are always talking about!
Yea, I am originally from New England, and it is a totally different story when I go home to visit. Here in the Midwest? I just try not to bring it up if I don't feel like getting a lecture on why I am going to hell.
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Tamelonie · 463 weeks ago

Hi, thank you!
I have had a different experience, lived most of my life as an atheist in the midwest and it's never been an issue. Even in Missouri, where you get into Bible Belt territory, I can't remember a time when someone grilled me about my beliefs. It just sort of never came up. I guess you might have a harder time finding a group to discuss atheism with, but I think that may be due to a bigger taboo around discussing sensitive topics.
I am in the intermountain area, and sometimes I see the coin flipping over. People so adamant about their atheism. Like the joke, how do you know if someone is a vegan? They will tell you. Which is really odd to me, because it's one thing to believe in the invisible guy in the sky, but another to try and prove he exists. Taking this one step further, are the people that are out to prove the invisible guy does not exist. I mostly blame Bill Maher. One of my friends says she overheard her son and his wife arguing over which one of them was more atheist.
Beautiful point about how asking "what is the meaning of life?" discounts things we don't find meaningful. I've never really thought about it that way...
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Tamelonie · 463 weeks ago

Thank you!! What really has expanded my thinking is my realization that in order to view everything in its true entirety we must look at the "is" and the "is not" and value them both. We can not count out our life lessons that taught us an "is not" as they provided us with new knowledges and experiences that are just as valuable as an "is." Therefore, to know the true, entire meaning of life, we must know just as much what life is not as much as we seek to know what life is.
It's good to see other black atheists out in the world. I'm curious, though, what reactions you've had from other black folks to your atheism? I've gotten a lot of less than stellar responses.
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Tamelonie Thomas · 463 weeks ago

Well. My friends are supportive and open minded. It is generational. I know that when I come across older Black people, I will receive less than stellar responses.
Long time creeper of the Toast, commenting for the first time to say: Church of Christ! My dad was a preacher in that denomination, and it is only now, after years of therapy, that I have finally been able to move on from the immense damage that denomination/my particular church did to me. I was initially shocked to discover that many consider it a cult, and then it all began to make sense. Tamelonie, I'm so happy you've found your way out. Your openness is inspiring to me!
This series continues to be a joy, as usual. <3
Some of these comments remind me of a favorite cartoon from at least five years ago, where a guy is answering his door, and it is a nondescript missionary, and he says, "I am so glad you are here, because I just happen to be between belief systems!"
One of my best friends who is in his 60's is a devout atheist, and his dad who is in his 90's has been a Southern Baptist for over 30 years. His dad just moved from several states away to live with him, and one of the conditions is he has to take his dad to church every Sunday. (Much to my amusement.) The wonderful thing is that they are so much alike, and both very charming. His dad has also forgotten that his son is an atheist, as he is starting to lose his memory. We had one get together at our house, and apparently on the way home his dad lamented the fact that all of those in attendance seemed very nice, but not very church going. I countered that at least 30% of the people there attended church that I knew of. One person who was listening in said that just because she attended church every Sunday didn't mean she wasn't an atheist. They also come over for dance parties, and the father dances much more than my friend. He also seems to conveniently not figure out that all the women his is charming are lesbians, which would seemingly crush him, as he will not even read books with such characters in them.
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