The Sequel To The Jedi Academy Trilogy The Inhabitants Of The Carida System Deserve -The Toast

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Screen Shot 2015-05-07 at 10.53.03 AMThe year is 11 ABY, shortly after the events of Champions of the Force. Kyp Durron has just been returned to Coruscant with the Sun Crusher by Han Solo after having destroyed the entire Carida system, along with its 25 million inhabitants, for a trial. 

LUKE SKYWALKER speaks before the council headed by MON MOTHMA, Borsk Feylya, and Leia Organa Solo.

LUKE: …so, anyways, if you guys could just release Kyp back into my custody, I’ll just, uh, take him back to Yavin 4, the planet where he initially encountered the spirit of Exar Kun and turned to the dark side, and continue his Jedi training.

MON MOTHMA: What? No.

LEIA: Absolutely not.

BORSK FEY’LYA: It feels borderline criminal that you would even ask us that.

MON MOTHMA: This is a court of law. You get that, right? Like…I get that he’s your buddy, or whatever, but he’s literally killed more people than Darth Vader and Moff Tarkin put together.

LUKE: Right, right, I know, but he’s really sorry.

MON MOTHMA: I mean…okay?

LEIA: That super doesn’t change the amount of people he killed. Right? Like, even if Hitler had survived the bunker and been super apologetic at Nuremberg – and I’m sorry to invoke Hitler here, but I actually do think it’s a kind of apt comparison – we wouldn’t have just said like “Oh, well, thanks for the apology, go in peace,” right?

LUKE: I don’t know who Hitler is.

LEIA: Whatever the equivalent of Hitler would be in our own timeline, then.

LUKE: Look, to be fair, he was under the influence of the evil spirit Exar Kun at the time. Who has now been destroyed, we’re pretty sure. Although people thought he had been destroyed before, and he sure hadn’t been, haha.

LEIA: Didn’t he willingly accept the tutelage of Exar Kun during his time on Yavin 4?

LUKE: I don’t follow.

LEIA: It’s just that it’s sort of less…exculpable to have been possessed by someone if you asked them to possess you.

LUKE: Well, I’m not going to let him get possessed by another Sith spirit and destroy a second star system, if that’s what you’re worried about.

MON MOTHMA: That is exactly what we’re worried about.

LEIA: Also, it feels morally…questionable…that you think we would turn a mass murderer over to his own mentor for justice just because he belongs to a highly secretive religious organization. This isn’t Medieval Europe, or whatever, we don’t have special canon law for Jedis.

LUKE: Okay, but like, I sort of feel like I’m the most qualified person to decide what his punishment should be, and I really think he’s punished himself enough.

MON MOTHMA: Okay, see there I just straight-up disagree with you.

LEIA: Yeah, this hearing isn’t about whether or not he can go back to being a Jedi. That point is super moot. It’s mooted.

BORSK FEY’LYA: We’re just trying to decide whether to execute him or imprison him forever.

LUKE: Oh, is there still capital punishment in this time period?

LEIA: I mean…maybe? It’s not the future, right, it’s “long, long ago,” so we might not have advanced past the death penalty.

LUKE: Well, sure, but you don’t think a society that has come up with intergalactic space travel has also figured out a better way to treat criminals than executing them?

LEIA: Honestly, not necessarily.

MON MOTHMA: Either one is better than your plan, which is just going back to teaching him how to move battle destroyers with his mind.

LEIA: You’re honestly a horrible teacher.

BORSK FEY’LYA: Frankly, I’m a little confused why you’re not on trial too.

MON MOTHMA: Yes, let’s put him on trial later. In the meantime, I think we should execute Kyp Durron, because even though I’m opposed to the death penalty for regular human beings, I’m pretty sure there’s no way we can contain someone powerful enough to power the Sun Crusher with his brain for the rest of his life.

LUKE: I feel like we’re really getting away from the other option, which is let him apologize and come back with me to hang out on my Jungle Friendship Planet.

LEIA: Apologize to who, though?

LUKE: To…to all those dead people.

LEIA: There’s literally no one left to apologize to.

LUKE: He had a really hard upbringing, you guys. He lost his brother!

MON MOTHMA: Did he have 25 million brothers?

LUKE: I…no.

MON MOTHMA: Okay, then, you see how it’s sort of not the same thing.

LUKE: I guess.

BORSK FEY’LYA: So we’re agreed. Kyp Durron will be executed immediately for his crimes against the New Republic and sentient beings everywhere.

LEIA: Absolutely.

MON MOTHMA: No question.

LUKE: Can I at least return to the planet where Kyp Durron turned to the Dark Side under my tutelage and continue training a bunch of unknown quantities with absolutely no oversight or standardized curriculum, lacking even a single metric for measuring progress?

MON MOTHMA: Oh, that’s fine with me.

LEIA: Yeah, I see no problem with that.

LUKE: Okay, then. See you guys the next time one of my students goes rogue and murders everyone, I guess. Which hopefully won’t be that often.

MON MOTHMA: Well, don’t be too hard on yourself. It’s what we’re here for.

OFFSCREEN, KYP DURON is summarily executed for the murder of 25 million innocents, as is appropriate. 

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This. THIS. It is a thing of beauty.
Like…I get that he’s your buddy, or whatever, but he’s literally killed more people than Darth Vader and Moff Tarkin put together.

Surely Tarkin should be held responsible for the destruction of Alderaan, which definitely had a population of more than 25 million.
9 replies · active 516 weeks ago
I feel as though Luke is at least criminally negligent on the whole Carida thing for a whole number of reasons, but mostly because he put the ridiculous Jedi scanner thing that Wedge found on Kyp AND IT HAD A RED GLOW INSTEAD OF BLUE. And Luke is all, "Well, I guess it's because he's young DERP DERP DERP."
3 replies · active 516 weeks ago
He "lost his brother " because he MURDERED HIS BROTHER ON CARIDA, LUKE.

I know Kyp can't be executed twice, but I wish there could have been a separate trial for everything he did pre-Carida. Justice for Qwi Xux!
1 reply · active 516 weeks ago
I'm not going to lie, I had the biggest crush on Kyp Durron when I was 11.

I WAS ELEVEN, OK.
I love that Mallory's Star Wars dialogue earns capitalization and punctuation.

Also, this is perfect.
But how could you execute someone who's that mysterious, dark, and broody? Just because he's also more murderous than mysterious, dark, and broody? That's borderline barbarism!
DEEP NERD QUESTION

Wouldn't faster than light space travel make moral relativism pretty thorny, because all of time & history is happening in a simultaneous instant? Would the people of the Cardia system even *have ever existed* in a meaningful way by the time-reckoning of Coruscant's system?
5 replies · active 516 weeks ago
I think former death row inmate Princess Leia knows a thing or two about capital punishment policies.
Excuse me, that's GRAND Moff Tarkin to you.
3 replies · active 516 weeks ago
I have a super nerdy explanation for how one can imprison a powerful Jedi but I'm keeping it to myself. You're welcome.
5 replies · active 516 weeks ago
A++ here for the jedi literary criticism

also still super mad about Mara Jade getting killed by her dumb nephew. "I was too in tune with nature" is the worst reason ever for someone to turn Sith.
2 replies · active 516 weeks ago
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newglasses · 516 weeks ago

Speaking as someone whose main source of information about SW canon is swtoronline, and some prompting from friends when I'm going 'who? what? why?' in an instance, it is my opinion that what the Jedi Academy really needs is a Psychology 101 class.
I've never read these books, but pretty much anything written by Kevin J Anderson is guaranteed to be trash, right?
6 replies · active 516 weeks ago
Mallory, have you been reading David Brin's star wars criticism?
See, this is why I could never take the Star Wars Extended Universe seriously at all. I mean, when the Founder ordered the genocide of about 800 million Cardassian civilians near the end of the Dominion War in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, you can be sure that she went to jail.
JUNGLE FRIENDSHIP PLANET.
Oh god. This really is my day for reliving middle school apparently.

MAKE IT STOP NOW.
As a person who has read exactly one Star Wars book in her life (and that was a novelisation of Revenge of the Sith I'M SORRY I WAS A TEEN, also I quite liked it because it had more feelings than the movie) I feel like I have missed out on Important Life Experiences.
This stuff sounds exactly like the kind of thing high school me would have enjoyed, if I'd spent less time worrying about what other people thought of me and my reading habits.
6 replies · active 515 weeks ago
This just reinforces to me that Zahn's trilogy was awesome and then it was almost all downhill from there...(Okay, the X-Wing books were pretty good.) And while I had major issues with JAT, the scary part is it wasn't the worst. I mean, I've honesty repressed reading Crystal Star. I know that I DID, but I can't remember a thing about it. I suspect I'm probably better off for it.
Is this the place to start arguing about how the Sun Crusher was a ridiculously overpowererd plot device and representative of everything wrong with sequel escalation?
1 reply · active 516 weeks ago
I had the audio book of this trilogy as a kid and I will never forget the horrific sounds of the crystal spider things from the first book. Because you know, the sound engineer wanted to add "realism" and thought letting you hear the monsters was a good idea.
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JaredRed5 · 516 weeks ago

Wow. I have not seen a Kyp Durron murderer thread in YEARS. Takes me back to theForce.net boards around the Bantam era. And while I will not under any circumstances defend the JAT, Kyp gets a bad rap. I think the text paints a pretty clear picture of Sith mind control/warping evidenced by Kyp's almost complete turn around after Exar Kun was defeated.

For that matter I think the dialogue in RotJ paints a very similar picture of Vader which is the only way Anakin's redemption works, but that's a whole other can of worms.
My favorite comment on this trilogy comes in Stackpole's I, Jedi, when Corran Horn BLOWS UP Kun's temple from his X-Wing and is all: "There, problem solved," and then quits his training at the Academy because he can't handle Kyp getting off scot-free and the way Luke handles things in general. And then he becomes a way cooler Jedi on his own and makes a lighsaber out of, pretty much, trash. But then, I'm a diehard Stackpole/Allston(sniff!)/Zahn fangirl, so basically anything any of them wrote is cool by me.
I still thinks it's ridiculous that Kyp Durron got forgiven, as did most of the other Jedi who went dark over the years (e.g., Kam, Luke himself a few times), but Alema Rar--who was literally absorbed by an evil hive mind which had been poisoned by a Nightsister and a Shadow Academy graduate, and who literally had no control over her actions for much of her arc because she was controlled by that hive mind--was apparently irredeemable thanks to her actions. To the point where, when she was finally killed, Luke basically said, "Well, there was nothing we could have done for her anyway. Who wants to party?"
BRING STANDARDIZED TESTING BACK TO THE JEDI ACADEMY.
1 reply · active 491 weeks ago
Those who accusing Kyp for doing this on purpose... shut the hell up!

Kyp was a teenager, possessed, his targets were mainly military and he felt regret at what he was "forced" to do. Others who have fallen to dark side have no excuse, hell you might as well blame Picard for killing dozens despite the fact that the Borg took control over him and dozens of others.

"He was under the influence of the dark side of the Force at that time, affected by the mental sendings of a long-dead Sith Lord. And in the years since, he has proven himself to be courageous, a defender of life—"
―Luke Skywalker

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