Link Roundup!

Sansa has her eyes firmly fixed on the future.


Jazmine on Danny DeVito’s Twitter:

When you opt into receiving intermittent alerts about a person’s life, boring stuff sort of comes with the territory. But when you’re a fan of that person, “boring” transforms into “behind the scenes,” where every morsel of information is a gift, another step toward making the person seem real. (It also helps when your favorite celebrity isn’t a tabloid staple.) As a proud DeVito DeVotee, I consider DeVito’s most mundane tweets to be among his best for exactly that reason: Danny DeVito likes Jell-O. He once got somesnow. He ran into Sidney Poitier. He has some, er, unfavorable thoughtsabout The New York Times. Sure, these are trivial details, but they’re trivial details that I wanted to know. I’ve retained plenty of insignificant information about my mother that I never signed up for.


TIL about the Electric Universe Theory:

They call themselves The Thunderbolts Project.

They subscribe to an idea called “electric universe,” and sometimes describe themselves as “getting EU eyes.” Like slipping on rose-colored glasses, the conversion changes their perception of the entire universe. The objects and events remain the same. But they’re tinged with truth. And in EU theory, the truth is that electricity rules.

Electric currents that flow along plasma filaments shape and power galaxies. The currents stream into stars, powering them like fluorescent bulbs. They induce the births of planets. Craters on those planets come from electrical arcs, like lightning bolts, that sear the surfaces.

Also, black holes don’t exist, and neither does dark matter. Nor dark energy.


This is so offensive to me:

When it comes to appearing on the popular game show Jeopardy, Canadians need not apply.


GHOSTWRITER:

Were there actually codified rules about what Ghostwriter could and could not do? Rules to his powers?

Oh yeah. He could see letters and numbers, and that’s all he could see. If you were the villain, and you were running down the street carrying the valuable object that’s been stolen, Ghostwriter could go and read the labels on your shoes, and your clothes, and say what size you wear. Or if you wear some exotic brand of shirt or something like that. Or if you had a New York Giants logo on your jacket. He could do those kinds of clues.

But he couldn’t say even if you were male or female, or how old you were, or anything else. He could travel through time, he could travel through space. He could go into a locked filing cabinet, and find a document and read what was there and get that information to the team. He wasn’t bound by any physical time or space constraints, but he was very limited in what he could actually see and do. So they were completely interdependent. The team was dependent on the information that Ghostwriter could supply, but Ghostwriter was dependent on the team to be his eyes and ears.


The female pilots we betrayed:

But in June 1944, when he sought to officially designate the WASPS as members of the United States military, Congress declined. Disgruntled male pilots had complained to Congress that women were taking their jobs. The press took that up and ran with it. So the women remained civilians.

FOR many of those who died while flying, classmates or squadron mates chipped in to ship their bodies home. Some pilots escorted their close friends’ bodies on trains.

The WASPs were disbanded on Dec. 20, 1944, and sent home with no recognition. Victory was in sight, and the female pilots were expendable.

The result of this shameful failure to give WASPs their appropriate military classification: no medical care, no insurance benefits. No Gold Star in the family’s window if their daughter died flying for her country. No burial subsidy. And no flag on the coffin.


The issues with our bail system:

The idea behind bond seems simple enough: If you lose money for missing a court date or committing a crime, you’re more likely to stay out of trouble and return to court.

But that’s not the case, research shows. A 2013 study of 2,000 criminal cases in Colorado found that defendants released on personal recognizance are just as likely to return to court and just as likely to reoffend as those with monetary bonds. In Washington, D.C., where nearly 90 percent of defendants are released without monetary bond, 88 percent make all of their court appearances and 89 percent do not have any new arrests during the pretrial phase.

In fact, someone who is at low-risk to reoffend and who sits in jail pretrial for just two to three days is 17 percent more likely to reoffend than someone released within 24 hours and 22 percent more likely to fail to appear for court, according to research. The likelihood of recidivism and failure to appear increase the longer someone is detained pretrial. Defendants who are held pretrial are also much more likely to be sentenced to jail or prison for their crimes, and for longer periods of time.


Here’s what we know about the Kalamazoo shootings so far:

Kalamazoo County officials say that a man who opened fire across the area on Saturday, killing six people and injuring two others, appears to have gunned down people at random during the four-hour rampage in western Michigan.

On Sunday morning, Kalamazoo County Prosecutor Jeffrey Getting said police identified the gunman as Jason Brian Dalton, 45, of Kalamazoo. Dalton was taken into custody hours earlier.


I can’t stop thinking about Kesha. What a horrible, horrible situation.


If you are made of stern stuff, and are also a real sicko, you may enjoy perusing this terrifying Reddit thread where medical professionals relate the most gruesome things they’ve ever seen. Mallory and I live here now. We all float.


We Hunted the Mammoth shares an obviously made-the-fuck-up nonsense post from that bullshit Return of Kings website, and it’s…incredible. Basically, this guy insists that a hot, dying 30 year old woman told him ALL THE SECRETS about how terrible women are (also, how they want to bone dogs? Guys, we are NOT supposed to tell men the truth, even if we’re dying!):

A woman will do just about anything, sexually speaking, so long as she is fairly certain she won’t get caught. For example, we will occasionally go out of town in order to rendezvous with a man we’ve been longing to fuck, and/or to have multiple sex partners in the same evening, and/or at the same time.

This is something that hot women do, most especially. In our minds, it is a natural desire, and a natural thing, and so long as nobody else finds out, it’s “game on”. Women are receptacles for cock, that’s how we have been biologically designed. Nothing feels better to us than being completely filled up with multiple penises, than being the center of sexual attention, than being the object of unbridled group lust. Since it’s something we can’t risk doing on our home turf (don’t shit where you eat), we have to think outside the box, in order to get our boxes completely satisfied. And you might find this shocking, but many women – many, many women – have sex with dogs on a routine basis. This is just one example of how insatiable we truly are.

it’s like looking in a mirror, right?


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332 Comments

  1. heyheyemkay +44

    Let me know how that Crimson Peak novelization goes, Nicole. I want live-tweets, all the best lines rounded up in a post just for me. I am here, patiently waiting in my plush velvet theater seat for the curtain to rise.

  2. 30Litresof +71

    That ‘women have sex with dogs’ thing (damn, we’ve been found out!) reminds me of that study ‘proving’ that there’s no such thing as a straight woman, despite all the evidence (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34744903). I think (though I’m happy to be corrected on this) that this study was conducted by the same guy that ‘proved’ that there’s no such thing as a bisexual man. But clearly he’s right and all the straight women and bisexual men in the world are wrong because science.

    1. thebellewitch +40

      Ooh, ooh, I went to a talk by the guy who did the bisexual man study. Same guy. BUT they since did another study where they “proved” bisexual men do exist (duh) by improving their criteria for recruiting participants. PDF.

      The thing that got me about the research is what doesn’t make it into most of the reporting on the studies…. what it really shows is that, especially for women but also to some extent for bisexual men, is that genital arousal isn’t a great way of measuring “real” sexual attraction. Sexual attraction is in the brain, yo, and sorry psychologists who are looking for an objective way to measure it, but you’re gonna have to take people’s word for it.

      None of this has anything to do with dogs. //as you were.

      1. Ethylbenzene +49

        Right — Emily Nagoski talks about this in her book Come As You Are, and on her blog. Basically, genitals respond to all kinds of things our brains don’t give a shit about (ask my spouse, who had a momentary, slightly embarrassing, reaction while the doctor was manipulating his junk in advance of his vasectomy). The genital response doesn’t mean you are “turned on,” because “being turned on” is a brain state more than anything else. It’s called “arousal nonconcordance,” and cis women experience it to a greater degree than cis men do, but even for cis men there’s a significant amount of non-overlap between what their genitals are saying and what their brains are saying. More reading here.

          1. politeyeti +7

            It’s a huge cause of distress for some ace people, because your heart is saying no, but your body’s saying go. (Ham lyrics intentional.)

          2. Ethylbenzene +9

            I can imagine. Plus then add in the fact that a LOT of people think that genital response = arousal, or worse that genital response = consent, and things get real awful real fast.

      2. 30Litresof +42

        Yes! I’ve heard of this. The thing about that study which infuriates me – and this is largely how it was reported – is that the go-to thing was like ‘Well, guess there’s no straight women then’ rather than ‘measuring genital arousal is a really poor measure of sexual attraction’. The latter seems so much more obvious.

        1. thebellewitch +29

          Oh but it’s so much more SEXY if us ladies are just ready to sleep with anyone, anywhere! *eyerollll*

          1. hedinthecloud +35

            When the depressing theory relating to why women have more arousal nonconcordance is that it may have an evolutionary benefit to produce lubrication “just in case” in various situations :-S

      3. neuromanticism +12

        I’ve always wondered if the tools are causing the reactions. I should probably Google this before I speak, BUT if I recall correctly you measure men’s physical arousal by putting electrodes on their bits, and women’s arousal by putting electrodes INSIDE their bits. And if that’s true, it seems like a super obvious confounder?? Like, shouldn’t another possible conclusion be “we should try this again with the same method for both sexes”? Or even “we should try just putting the measure thingy in the vag without showing anyone any porn just to see if physical changes are actually caused by the measuring stick”?

        I mean, maybe they did those checks, but if so, I never hear anyone talk about them. They go straight to “WOMEN ARE AROUSED BY EVERYTHING INCLUDING MONKEYS”

        (but they do ask people about their arousal levels though, any psychologist worth their salt will compare the measured arousal to the arousal people say they feel)

        1. bookwormV +3

          I think I remember Mary Roach saying in her book about sex that when she took part in a similar experiment, subjects were shown non-sexual material as a control to rule out reactions from stuff other than sexual arousal

    2. halloweenjack64 +13

      The dog sex thing probably comes from Nancy Friday’s books of sexual fantasies (My Secret Garden, Women on Top, etc.), which featured a wide variety of fetishes, including many fantasies of having sex with animals, and a few women who said that they’d actually done it. Of course–and this probably hardly needs to be said in the internet age–not only is there no proof that they’d really done it, there’s no proof (except for people who Friday knew personally) that any of them were in fact women. (See also: every Penthouse Forum letter ever.)

    3. Tarragoner +20

      I’m very pleased that there’s something on The Toast today allowing me to bring up something that I need to get off my chest. This will do. I’ve been voraciously reading all the books in my public library about feminism. So I am all afire on the subject of male subjugation of women through the ages. I’m just so upset. I’m sick of rapey guys who think women like it like that, I’m sick of any depiction of sexual violence in entertainment. I was reading up on Cassandra of Troy this morning, and do you know she gets raped by Ajax, but the big problem is that she gets raped in Athena’s Temple? Not that she is raped. But you know, the temple is sacred.
      I’m perimenopausal, I am completely independent, self-supporting, children are raised and on their own. I didn’t know about this stuff in my 20s. Now I am really pissed off.

  3. raqueue +78

    Jeopardy banned Canadians just so they could include ridiculously easy but apparently challenging questions about Canada in every round, right??

    Trebek: “The capital of Manitoba”
    Contestants: *crickets*

    Or maybe it’s just revenge for the CBC not airing the show

    1. aravisthequeen +35

      This is a constant source of frustration to me. “Confederation took place in this year.” “1415???” “1989???” “1763????” And then the look of despair in Alex’s eyes.

      1. raqueue +45

        “Canada’s largest French-speaking province”

        “Alberta??” “Wales??” “Queensland??”

        1. aravisthequeen +47

          “The sap of this tree is the raw material for one of Canada’ most celebrated exports.” “Birch???” “Willow???” “Orange???”

          1. raqueue +47

            *shows a picture of a loonie* “This bird is on Canada’s one dollar coin”

            “A duck??” “Canada goose??” “The Queen???”

          2. ayelltee +15

            BANANA tree, obvs. Jeez, you people.

            But seriously, the producers’ explanation makes no sense. Is it a prize money/income tax issue?

          1. protocoach +32

            Shit, of course. That’s the province where Wheels is set, right? I heard it’s Canada’s most populous, but only if you include the mooses as people, which is mandated in Canada by the Constitution (which I understand was in fact written by the Queen when she was Canada’s God-Emperor).

            (this will be the thread that gets me banned from the dash toast dot net but all of my canadian friends have moved elsewhere and so i can no longer tease them and i miss it so)

          2. Strophoria +5

            The population density of Manitoba is literally, no jokes, 1.9 people/km². I bet we could at least double that by including moose.

    2. halloweenjack64 +2

      I’m kind of wondering what the law would be, if there is such a law. Kind of disappointed that the CBC didn’t dig a little deeper for this article.

  4. Räven +159

    I can’t believe she broke the code and told about the dogs! (Also the body text says ten secrets but there are only nine, I’m SO glad they didn’t reveal the tenth and greatest Secret of Ladies.)

    1. sigaloenta +75

      *double-checks for men*
      at least they’ll never find out that what we secretly want the most is sovereynetee

        1. Nashirakins +42

          Can I have personal sovereignty *and* cheese? Never mind that aged cheese gives me migraines. I still want it.

  5. christinaemoss +35

    I am legitimately crushed about the Jeopardy news and kicking myself for cancelling my tryout a few years ago. Jeopardy champion was literally my career goal when I was 13. I incorporated it into my first hotmail address and everything.

  6. TheRenleigh +60

    Man, I was so confused when I first heard the word ghostwriter used in its normal context because I only knew it from the show and I didn’t realize that it had been a play on words.

    1. JGlows +29

      Even more confusing: Ghost Rider, that weird flaming skull movie with Nicolas Cage, sounds just like Ghostwriter for those of us with crap enunciation.

        1. JGlows +5

          Sounds reasonable, I live in the Buffalonian subdialect inside the Inland North American English dialect, geographically it makes sense.

    2. msbias +40

      I was once on a train sitting near a mum and her two young kids, and they’d bought a book of Hallowe’en jokes or something. The six-year-old girl goes, “What does a skeleton use to get into his house? A skeleton key!” The kids were like, well, duh, of course he does. The mum went, “No, it’s funny because a skeleton key is – oh, never mind.”

      1. askelade +10

        pretty sure I had that book as a kid! And had the same reaction.

        “This is… not a joke… ?”

  7. hedinthecloud +30

    Oh man, Nicole. Clearly you erred in adopting a female dog. I mean, you run the risk of puncturing those poor (read: horrible, misguided, pathetic) men’s delusions!

      1. irishbreakfasttime +33

        This sentence sounds like something a spy whispers to you in a bar! And then you report back to HQ “Operation LDS is a go!”

        1. redheadedwolf +57

          Oh my God, I just realized Latter-Day Saints and Lesbian Dog Sex have the same acronym, NOW I WILL NEVER KNOW WHICH PEOPLE ARE REFERRING TO

    1. Janesy +15

      I can’t say whether or not it’s horsepuckey, but holy shit on a shingle, my jaw was in my lap after reading the initial post.

    2. hedinthecloud +13

      I saw a link to that this morning and was almost late to work because I was glued to the screen. It can’t be real. Can it?

      1. Scared_Vagina +45

        I tried to surreptitiously read it on a VERY packed train so as not to be late but I think the guy behind me was DEF reading it over my shoulder. He sent me a raised eyebrow as we disembarked.

    3. blizzard +20

      *cries petulantly because I have read all the screenshots in this thread but there appears to be more of it and I can’t find it and I just want to continue reading about this misfortune SO BADLY

    4. Social +61

      THANK YOU FOR THIS SLICE OF HUMAN AWFULNESS. I have a performance review today and I’m freaking out but this just made me realize, even if it goes badly, I will never be THOSE PEOPLE and therefore I should just be happy for the rest of my life.

    5. MunchletteBelle +40

      I now want to know literally everything about these people and how things got to this point.

      And also everything that happens to these people in the future.

      1. alula_auburn +29

        I’m trying to imagine the parents, and my brain does a record-scratch stop.

        (Also, on the one hand, I want her free of these people FOREVER; on the other hand, I kind of want Brad or Brad’s wife to call her and be “Oh, honey. Good fucking call. Let’s talk.”)

        1. hystericaldora +19

          Yes! I want her to call The Brad Family so bad! I would gladly pay literal money for a recap of that conversation. Just, like, a contribution to OP’s starter fund for a non-fucked life.

        2. MunchletteBelle +15

          I actually find it a little strange that the post hardly mentions the parents in this situation at all, except to note that the “trainwreck” sister lives with them, as does “Sarah.” I definitely wonder what sort of home life these people had that led to these siblings being so disturbingly close and no one noticing/caring.

          This is obviously a situation where all three of the main people involved would benefit immensely from (probably a lot of) therapy.

          1. sourwatermelons +3

            I also wonder about the writer’s parents/friends. Unless she’s totally estranged from her parents I think most families are at least somewhat involved in wedding planning and I don’t understand why they didn’t hear “oh, we changed the date of the wedding because Sarah wanted us to” and didn’t get concerned!? She could have kept the details from them, of course, but I wish I understood more why this poor woman ended up this deep in such a bad situation.

          2. MunchletteBelle +10

            In one of her responses, the OP said that all of her friends are friends with the sibling pair, who will probably paint her as a “horrible control freak” and she will basically have to find all new friends. OP also mentions that a formerly close friend of Rob once casually remarked that they seemed unusually close and Rob blew up at the person and the person was ostracized by the friend group.

            So… somehow there is a whole group of people who spend time with these three and don’t think that Rob and Sarah are weird? Or know better than to say so?

          3. themegnapkin +7

            He’s definitely gas-lighting her, I wouldn’t be surprised if he also managed to separate her from her family.

    6. sourwatermelons +71

      I feel so bad for this lady. For some reason my jaw dropped more at the “wearing a wedding dress to be your maid of honor” thing than the sharing a bed nonsense because it makes it so blatantly obvious that the brother and sister are viewing it as THEIR wedding, not brother and fiance’s wedding. And then they have the nerve to get salty when the fiance points out that none of this is normal and that they’re being disrespectful to her!! What assholes.

      1. hedinthecloud +61

        I feel like a lot of people fixated on that, for some reason. I mean, I’ve shared a bed with my brother on holidays. But if my brother came over, I wouldn’t kick my boyfriend out of bed for him.

        The most egregious part for me was that a) he never made one-on-one time for her in the weekends and b) he wanted to take his sister with them on their honeymoon.

        1. sourwatermelons +31

          Oh, the honeymoon is wild too. I guess both of those things stand out because it makes it clear how far they’re willing to go to gaslight the fiance to get what they want. And that (to some extent) they don’t give a shit what other people think. Taking your sister on your honeymoon, supposedly the most romantic, intimate vacation you’ll ever take? Forcing your fiance to make your sister her maid of honor and then letting your sister wear almost the exact same dress as her at the wedding? NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!

          1. sourwatermelons +62

            they’re just overall awful. If you’re going to be incesty and weird at least have the decency to be nice people, GOD.

        2. kirpunz +28

          In some of the comments, the poster revealed that the bed-sharing on weekends happened for 4 months and for those months she and fiance had no sex. And she said he had an average libido.

          1. hedinthecloud +36

            Oh, yeah, their bed sharing was definitely creepy. But I don’t think incidental bed sharing between siblings (even of opposite genders) is creepy per definition. The fact that he made it clear that spending time with her and having sex with her was not on his list of priorities at all is the crucial thing.

          2. kirpunz +13

            I would agree. Also the kicking the person you are in a relationship with and who is the apartment resident out of their/your bed. That’s pretty weird.

          3. mikewein +57

            I loved the reply where the person explains in 4-5 paragraphs, that they are from a very hippy open family from Scandinavia, and details all about how their family changes in front of each other, share beds on trips, etc …. then says how messed up this situation is.

      2. alula_auburn +11

        That was the point where my jaw dropped, too. It’s like. . .idk, the sharing the bed nonsense is weird and insulting, but the dress is like shrieking it to everyone within earsight.

      1. MunchletteBelle +57

        On the one hand, I am glad to see that the OP’s comments suggest she is leaving this dude and that she rejected his plan to have his sister come on the (first) honeymoon. On the other hand, I am slightly devastated that we will never know how much time he would have tried to spend with his sister if the three-way honeymoon had gone down. Like, would he have spent his wedding night with her?! I have so many many questions.

        1. Unreadaethel +17

          Pretty sure that even if he spent the wedding night with his actual wife, he’d be imagining he was spending it with his sister.

          1. GoatseFanfic +16

            if she went on the just-them honeymoon his other gift to her on the first night was gonna be a rubber mask custom molded into the face of his sister

    7. summerestherson +26

      OMG YOU GUYS she mentions in the comments below the post that the entire 4 MONTHS the sister was spending the weekends with them, she and her fiance weren’t having sex! GIRL.

    8. foxinthe_snow +34

      Oh shiiiiiiit. I hope she gets the hell out of that situation. I like the person who said ‘My motto is, if they are treating you the way you would never even imagine treating them, they cannot possibly love you and respect you.’ Definitely one I will be holding in mind when I inevitably end up ruminating on past shitty relationships.

    9. alula_auburn +17

      OMG. Also, I clicked the link where it was gone and now I’m super-ticked off at the guy who wants to give away his stepkid’s dogs of two years so they can keep his son’s aggressive dog of one month.

    10. shy +3

      He sounds like the guy from Friends: ‘Why are women so threatened by my relationship with my sister?’ Because you’re creepy and inappropriate!

  8. deleted7541601 +12

    That Reddit thread is tame. Don’t google ‘Fournier’s Gangrene.’ But if you want a visual forum of posts by medical professionals, I recommend https://app.figure1.com/. It’s not as good lately since they disabled the search function, but still fascinating stuff. Another excellent site for medical photography is https://www.instagram.com/mrs_angemi/ by a well-tattooed pathologist.

    I warned you not to google ‘Fournier’s Gangrene.’

    1. Herberta1 +18

      Spouse is a doctor and as I always tell people, no matter how embarrassing or gross you think your problem is, your doctor has seen 10x worse.

      1. msbias +65

        On the other hand, I went to my GP with tonsilitis last week, and when he saw my tonsils he got very excited and asked if he could take a photo. Always comforting.

        1. askelade +15

          When I got my wisdom teeth pulled the oral surgeon suddenly got reeeeeeeaaaaal quiet and said sotto voce “THAT’s interesting…”

        2. alder_tree +4

          (warning: slightly gruesome, not nearly as bad as that reddit thread though)

          Five years ago I got in a bicycle crash where I went over my handlebars. My face hit the ground at an angle, and I cut my chin (which got stitches) and my lip (which didn’t), and I also ended up with my glasses stuck in my face, near my temple. Like, after I sat up and was able to breathe I noticed my glasses were askew with the lenses popped out, tried to pull them away (I think I assumed they were in my hair?), and that’s when I realized they were embedded in my face, I was bleeding a lot, and I commenced FREAKING OUT. (I also injured my liver, which necessitated a hospital stay of five days.)

          A friend of mine who saw me almost puked. The EMT said “Wow, I’ve never seen that before.” But even better was the guy who sewed me up in the ER, who asked if he could take photos. I’ve wondered ever since if there’s some article about me in a medical journal somewhere, wouldn’t they have to ask for permission? He was a plastic surgeon, for which I’m extremely thankful, as my scars are almost invisible.

      2. askelade +15

        I confess I do occasionally try to comfort patients by pointing out that their case of $AILMENT is not particularly interesting and I am unlikely to remember it a few days from now.

        I have excellent bedside manner!

        1. bottleredhead +4

          I had skin lymphoma a couple of years ago and had to go to an oncologist to get a bunch of tests to make sure it wasn’t anywhere else, and when I showed her the bumps she said “You came in for THAT? I never would have even noticed that.” It did, in fact, make me feel better.

      3. Maryaed +3

        My OB did get very impressed with one of my hemorrhoids when I was 8 months pregnant and offered to show me. Um, no thanks.

      4. shy +2

        My GP said ‘Oh. Ew!’ when I mentioned I had exczema. (Didn’t even show him.) I did sort of wonder how he survived medical school…

    2. Scared_Vagina +13

      I used to be a pharma translator sometimes I’d be googling something innocently to research if that’s the correct term in my target language and I’d get hit unexpectedly with the images. I also once had to translate a manual for surgical equipment. With pictures.

      1. deleted7541601 +7

        It’s the same if you ever try to google something with the words ‘Asian’ or ‘teen’. I have been forced to close windows with great alacrity here at work sometimes.

        1. Scared_Vagina +14

          Yeah I also had to research some sort of genital skin condition once (again for translation purposes! I think I was working on packaging for a purported cure) and putting ‘penis’ into a search bar at work just went against every molecule of my being.

          1. Sel +9

            I used to TA an anatomy class/lab and there was a very memorable office hour where a student asked a question about some condition and the professor was like “I’m not sure, let’s look it up!” and typed a few anatomical terms into the search engine. What resulted was a pornado of epic proportions, with the prof covering the monitor screen with her body, apologizing profusely as she announced that office hours were now over, and could someone please unplug the computer.

        2. bookwormV +2

          I am putting together a display for International Women’s Day at work and have been researching interesting women from our organisation for it. One of them, it turns out, shares a name with someone who has lots of bikini-clad pictures on the internet. That was an awkward image search.

      2. msbias +32

        I work with doctors, and I was once at a conference for sexual health doctors and decided to attend the closing plenary session. It was about the HPV vaccine, and Just How Bad Genital Warts Can Get. With pictures. Pictures which made doctors who work in sexual health wince.

        1. askelade +29

          I knew that gyn was where I needed to be the day I found myself eating a gooey messy lunch while reading a huge textbook about gynecological dermatology. Which is basically 90% infections and 10% cancer and 100% revolting. My response: where do I sign up?!

          1. PaigePoo +9

            I work in gyn research, and recently attended a breakfast meeting about fibroid research, with lots of pictures. 10/10, would attend again despite looking at fibroids at 9am while eating a bagel.

          2. Scared_Vagina +8

            My friends at college who studied medicine all remarked how they were always weirdly starving hungry after dissection class.

          3. alder_tree +5

            One of my favorite things to know is that many gynecologists think a healthy cervix looks like a little glazed doughnut. To the point where someone quoted a doctor who said “If I do a lot of pap smears I start craving doughnuts.”

    3. protocoach +23

      There is an NBA player who has had something of a breakout year this year named Evan Fournier and so people have been trying to get the nickname “Never Google” off the ground. I broke the rule, and it was a mistake.

      1. kilks401 +7

        I made this mistake too! >.< It is funny that on twitter Evan Fournier himself has joked about not googling his own name.

    4. askelade +17

      Hello I am just here to say that I have personally cared for many patients with Fournier’s gangrene including one who ultimately died of complications from said condition. I am here for questions, in other words.

      1. deleted7541601 +4

        What would you say are the odds for survival? And after debridement, are grafts performed?

        1. askelade +15

          Excellent odds for survival if treated promptly! But survival here means “life with big changes to your penis” so it’s a harsh diagnosis for sure.

          It’s generally too small an area to bother with a graft (heh. heh) so post-débridement there’s usually a wet-to-dry dressing changed two or three times daily.

          Content warning: gruesome penis alterations ahead.

          Débridement is not always a good treatment option because often the gangrene goes down deep enough that you would have to involve the urethra. So there’s often a decision to do a partial or total penectomy. With a total you end up with just a little hole, still contnent, but high risk for further skin breakdown from urine macerating the tissue (it’s not built like a vulva after all which is designed to sort of drip things off).

          Also even with a débridement, post-op you have an indwelling (Foley) catheter for a long time and after all you are someone who does not have the greatest tissue integrity so there is high risk of tissue breakdown from the pressure/friction of the catheter. Many people in other words come in for débridement and leave with a partial penectomy.

          But it’s true in 8 years of working as an RN I only saw one person die from sepsis related to F gangrene.

          1. deleted7541601 +21

            The word ‘partial’ does not make the word ‘penectomy’ any easier to swallow, if you’ll excuse the expression.

          2. jimmyjimjimjim +3

            >It’s generally too small an area to bother with a graft

            So I mean obviously the pictures on the internet which show massive chunks of crotch are the dramatic cases but when you say too-small do you mean because it’s a… topographically fiddly area or is there just a sort of rule of thumb cm^2 threshold before surgeons bother with grafts.

          3. askelade +6

            I am not a plastic surgeon so I can’t speak to decision-making process! This is just what I infer from years of nursing …

            The thing with grafts is that for an individual graft site you need kind of a largish area of skin. I think I’ve never seen one smaller than 25 cm^2 ?

            Also the dramatic photos are of cases so bad that simple débridement would not be the first line of treatment, or possibly only for small areas.

            Skin grafting IME is really an intervention for very shallow, wide injuries … the classic example of course being burns. Once you have deeper tissue injuries a wet-to-dry is really better up to a point because it allows the body to heal from the inside out.

            Also it just now occurs to me that it would be difficult to find a graft donor site from elsewhere on the body with skin appropriate for a penis. Think about how different that skin is than, say, skin on the anterior surface of your thigh! (A very common donor site.) Penis skin is glabrous, stretchy, extremely soft. Hard to find that aside from eyelids that I can think of!

          4. askelade +16

            Also as a lesbian and a midwife it delights me that I have spent all day o the Internet talking about penis skin.

        1. protocoach +3

          It is a disease where the affected skin begins to rot off the body. It usually occurs around the perineum (the taint) and spreads to nearby areas.

          1. tinypaperme +2

            I think that’s why my brain so easily went there. 🙂 It did make me wonder how many asses would be in danger, though, as most people only have one.

    5. Biblioholic +13

      About 3 years ago, I was working on editing a dermatology book and had to look through about 600 images of skin diseases, most of which seemed to be genital. I am still scarred.

      1. alula_auburn +9

        I don’t even know, but somehow skin diseases freak me out way more than other “gross” medical things (so, of course, I sit and squirm through google images for no reason.) I can look at most pics of internal stuff, or open wounds and be “eh*” but just the word “pustules” and I’m cringing into fetal position.

        *or, you know, properly sympathetic towards people instead of inwardly shrieking “ew ew ew!”

        1. msbias +6

          I worked in a dermatology department for a year, and skin is fine. I get slightly less comfortable with ligaments and cartilage and things (I only cope with life by forgetting I have collar bones – if I remember I’m good for nothing.) But the one that completely freaks me out is dentistry. I usually work with doctors, and am fairly un-gross-out-able, but a couple of months ago I had to work with dentists and I looked up dental specialties and as soon as I read the words “dental pulp” I had to close the browser and go and do something else. 🙁

    6. halloweenjack64 +22

      I work in a medical library, and part of the self-initiation for medical librarians is finding out what happens when you casually browse through parts of your collection the way you would in most libraries. It’s even more fun with electronic resources which feature various high-quality color photographs to aid in visual diagnosis.

      1. tinypaperme +3

        I did my MA research on a topic related to the “groinular region” and hoo, did I get some weird looks in the computer lab using the high-res scanner. I’m actually glad this was before any of the sources I used were available online; I’m not sure I could have constructed a search properly to weed out any truly gruesome (or revoltingly explicit) photographs.

    7. christoncracker +28

      My spouse is a doctor and frequently submits photos for publication in medical journals. We have a lot of horrifying pictures of balls (it’s always balls) that can pop up on our computers at any moment.

      1. popelizbet +6

        I’m sorry, but my brain just goes straight to Arrested Development and stays there. I am not proud.

        1. irishbreakfasttime +7

          I am definitely picturing Henry Winkler’s character from Parks & Rec saying “oh, that’s balls” now.

    8. flammablespam +11

      Agree, do not Google! At ye Olde job, we were attempting to wrestle out who was the proper beneficiary on an account (the mother vs common law wife) and noticed cause of death was listed as “complications from infection of Fournier gangrene”. I went, wtf, gangrene is still a thing and didn’t die off after the civil war? So I googled and then wanted to bleach my brain.

    9. alula_auburn +3

      Otoh, when you do Google it, I kind of love the Power Point slide that says “Fournier’s Gangrene: Skin Changes Often an Understatement.”

  9. deleted7541601 +94

    The psychology of men’s fantasies about women is interesting. In another life, I might have been a psychologist. I suspect more men are having sex with animals than women, by the way.

    1. hedinthecloud +100

      Absolutely, if only because it seems … easier to achieve?

      Seriously, a friend of mine from New Zealand says she didn’t date much in high school because she was uninterested in any dick that had ever been inside a sheep.

    2. 30Litresof +50

      I did an essay on Leda and the swan poems when I was at uni: of course, throughout history that story about rape has usually been interpreted as ‘women are so insatiable they would literally have sex with animals if we didn’t control them’, the most memorable example of this being a DH Lawrence poem which imagines the object of his affection having a swan gang bang. I can’t find it now – Googling ‘DH Lawrence swan’ brings up a different poem about swans and male sexual anxiety. Anywho, that Return of Kings guy is part of a rich and baffling tradition of men’s attitudes towards women and animal sex.

      1. mikelywhiplash +15

        Wait, is Leda/Swan supposed to be (semi-)literal? I thought it was just a dirty joke, what with the long necks and whatever.

        Also, how is it that people first hear about that story before they get out of 4th grade?

      2. megalesias +10

        yea, my mind went to The Golden Ass and the lady-donkey sex. It really is a long and storied problem, apparently.

    3. halloweenjack64 +39

      To quote a line I read somewhere: “he’d stick it in mud if he thought it would wriggle.”

      1. RainbowDash +18

        In the Dine Bahane, there is a part where the men and women are having a battle of the sexes and withholding sex from each other. A man is about to use a liver as a masturbatory aid when there’s spiritual intervention telling him not to have sex with the liver. I read this in a Native American Literature class in college, and I’d like to claim that we were all mature about the line, but alas, that would be a lie. (Also, I’m a little afraid I’m misrepresenting a sacred story, so if there’s anyone here who’s Dine, I’m sorry if I did)

    4. neuromanticism +44

      I dunno, I’m trying to become a psychologist and we don’t spend a lot of time trying to figure out what people’s thoughts mean, we just make a lot of statistics about them. But I can Officially Confirm that more men than women do unusual and offensive sex stuff (or at least, that’s what our numbers say). And yeah if I remember correctly that includes animal sex. Reddit guys: not up to date on modern Sex Science.

    5. alula_auburn +31

      I feel like there’s something to say about the different tenors between Beauty and the Beast stories (transformation) and a lot of animal brides (figuring out how to TRAP them!). Idk, I had a book about selkies when I was little, and I was fascinated and horrified by the effort dude puts into essentially stalking her, stealing her skin, and then hiding it in the roof and taking it down to oil once a year which somehow seemed creepiest of all.

  10. Frumiosa +58

    Between Trump winning South Carolina and Kalamazoo and that Return of Kings post (and comment thread wherein these assholes are debating the fine points of women fucking dogs — only “6”-s and under and mostly in Europe, obviously), my weekly supply of hope for humanity is already shot.

      1. SmrtCookie +14

        I was thinking about it too. I’mma wait until I get a sign from the universe that not everyone is terrible…

  11. Catandrist +58

    Hi, I know this isn’t appropriate for Link Roundup but I’m never around for Cocktail Hour due to work so I’m just gonna let it out here. My husband is currently experiencing a relapse of his leukemia (CLL), on chemo but still quite anemic despite a mostly positive response. The relapse happened out of nowhere after 3 good years post-initial treatment so the doctor is of course concerned. Wednesday we receive the results of the bone marrow biopsy which I’m convinced will bring us horrible news (unfavorable gene mutation or worse, transformation to lymphoma). I’m really barely holding it together but I need to for him and for my own patients (I’m a visiting nurse). He is young- just turned 50- and in otherwise great health. His oncologist says its time to start the process for bone marrow transplant, which we are. I’m just wondering if any Toasties have *positive* or *encouraging* stories to share about BMT? I can’t do any more google searches, it just sends me down a terrible spiral of bad news and statistics. I am really trying hard to remain hopeful, it’s just so so hard right now. Please forgive me in advance if I don’t respond right away, once I’m out in the field seeing patients I need to maintain composure so it might be hard to check in here throughout the day. Thanks in advance.

    1. FreeRangeMenses +27

      I am so sorry you’ve been hit by this news. I can share that I know four folks who have received BMTs, both from family members and from the donor registry, and it’s a tough road, but they’re all doing well. I was also a donor (to a stranger) many years back, so know that if there is a match to be had, there are people who will do whatever they can to help you. Also, all of the personnel I worked with in my donation were regulation badasses, which was very encouraging! I’m sending you and your husband good vibes.

    2. skitterypigeon +13

      Don’t have any stories, but just wanted to say that it sounds like a tough time and I hope it gets better. Thoughts going out to you and your husband.

    3. geekcrackteam +12

      I’m sorry you’re going through this, I can’t offer a BMT experience (although I am registered, and it was the easiest thing to do!), just sympathy and good vibes. I hope you get good news from the doctors, and if you don’t, The Toast will be here for you throughout!

    4. msbias +17

      Only that I have a friend who donated bone marrow, and as far as she knows, the person her bone marrow went to is still doing really well nearly two years later. Best of luck you to you and your husband.

    5. littlehuntingcreek +11

      A friend and neighbor had one three years ago and he is well now, so good things have happened! I will add you and your husband to my prayers.

    6. ru_ri +12

      I don’t have any BMT stories but I just wanted to say that I am so sorry you and your husband are facing this–it sounds very scary. Just remember that all the bad stuff on Google searches etc. is far out of proportion to real life. And if there are other ways Toast folks can help (like registering as a bone marrow donor, is that a good thing to do?) please let us know!

      Hang in there until Wednesday–and if it helps, try to focus on what is, rather than what could be. I’ll be keeping you in my thoughts (as will many others, I’m sure)!

    7. ehmgeebee +11

      I know of two folks who had BMTs and are doing very well now- one is 10 years out from his treatment, and one is a bit over a year out and thriving. Both had donations from strangers. Whatever comes next, I’m thinking of you and your family!

    8. Ethylbenzene +11

      I’m so sorry to hear this. My only BMT experience is a friend from high school whose daughter had one as a baby due to some sort of extremely rare disorder that is not cancer but sort of acts similarly? She is doing great though — she’s six or seven now, and thriving. Plus, it encouraged a bunch of us to get on the donor registry (seriously, everyone, just do it, it takes five minutes).

    9. lbolesta +7

      One of my friends had BMT after developing leukemia after having a liver transplant. She’s about 10 years out from all that, completely healthy, and strong enough to chase a 3 year old around all day.

    10. Enhydralutris +5

      My cousin had leukemia and a BMT. She had a toddler at the time. No one expected my cousin to survive another five years. She’s going to see her kid graduate from high school this spring. Good luck to you both!

    11. MaladyDee +4

      I don’t know anyone who’s either needed a bone marrow transplant or donated bone marrow, but your story, and the stories of the toasties in this thread made me sign up to canada’s registry. I should be hearing back from them within 5 business days.
      Interested Canadian Toasties, (especially Toasties of Colour, as they are putting a priority on non-white donations since it’s often harder to match) can find more information on the Canada Blood Services website, under the heading of Stem Cells.

    12. ladychimera +6

      Late response, dunno if you’ll see this. Long time lurker, but I feel like I have to comment on at least this post! I had a BMT from an unrelated donor just under 5 years ago for AML (age 20). The first 3-4 weeks after were really hard for me physically and mentally. But the next few months, things steadily improved (I think finally getting out of the hospital really helped my morale). A couple months out, I developed super-mild graft-vs-host disease (no symptoms, just a blood test showing something wonky with my liver) so was put on steroids for about a year. Doctors initially said I should put off returning to school for at least a year, but I was able to resume part time studies 4 months post-transplant and gradually worked back up to a full course load (and finished my degree 3 years later!) Nowadays, the biggest indications of my former illness are my Hickman line scar, taking forever to get rid of colds, and running out of energy a little faster. But maybe that last one is just a part of getting older ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      I’m so sorry you and your husband have to go through such a difficult time. I can’t promise you that things will work out as good as they did for me, but I can say that such things ARE possible, and I’m not the only one who’s had such positive results. Plus, even from 5 years ago, treatments and symptom management are getting better and better!

      Sending positive vibes your way <3

    13. missellabell +4

      Hallo. I am SO SORRY that you’re here- we are currently waiting on the results of a bone marrow biopsy, too, and the waiting is the worst, and it sucks, and I am so sorry. My partner (aged 26) has what is on paper the dirt worst kind of lymphoma, and has had an autograft, and we are HOPING to go into the allograft in April if this biopsy and the latest scan come out alright (we are waiting on those results, like I say).

      Having established those deeply grim credentials; I have heard THOUSANDS of encouraging stories about bone marrow transplants. Literally, thousands. Our consultant has told us LOTS (heavily anonymised), and Anthony Nolan, who we have been working with quite a lot, have got lots more on their website. Stem cell transplants are MAGIC. Literal magic. And they save so so so many lives. I personally know, outside of my oh-shit-we-are-in-Cancerland circles, two people who have had allografts (that is, a transplant from someone else) and they have been well for years and years and years now. A volunteer on the Tall Man’s ward had a transplant there a dozen years ago and has had no reoccurrence of her lymphoma since.

      Another thing, too: we are in, weirdly, a really great time for leukaemia and lymphoma research. Everyone says so: new ways of doing stuff, new therapies, new things are happening all the time. Stem cell treatment is getting more sophisticated, the matching system is getting more sophisticated, and all kinds of astonishingly cool new things are being tried. The UK government, for example, has just invested some seven million into trying to cure blood cancers. “It’s a really good time to get blood cancer,” the consultant told us. (I love the consultant very much.)

      Third thing: the first doctor who told us that the Tall Man was dying (he was then, we aren’t sure where we stand now, but he seems pretty lively) made me promise I would never Google ANYTHING about the illness. He said to look things up on the Macmillan site if I needed to know anything, and I think it was the best advice I’ve ever been given by a medical professional. I’m not sure of US sites like it, but your husband’s doctor should be able to make some good recommendations.

      Chin up, and all my love, and I will be thinking of you and your husband. (And I am SO sorry. I am so sorry, and it sucks, and you absolutely never have to pretend that it doesn’t suck- but this waiting is always the worst part, at least for me, because you don’t know WHAT you’re facing or how you’re going to try and fight it.)

      1. Catandrist +1

        Wow, thank you so much for your thoughtful response. I have been popping in here and there to check up on you and your Tall Man and your support really means a lot. The good(ish) news from the biopsy- yes, it does show some mutation (but that’s to be expected with his disease) and yes, it is more aggressive post-relapse (but we already knew that). The best news is that he’s still producing red blood cells and there is no sign that his disease is “transforming” (a somewhat rare but very scary possibility for CLL patients). So for now, no change in treatment (he’s responding well) and BMT is still on the horizon. I am bolstered by all the encouraging stories I’ve read here. And you’re absolutely right, this IS a good time for blood cancer patients. We’re fortunate to have so many new treatments available and even more in trials.

        As a wise friend said this morning “you won a small battle in a big fight” and that’s enough to keep me going. I hope you and your Tall Man keep winning the small battles. Thank you again for reaching out, you don’t know how much it helped.

        PS I’m done with Google once and for all.

    1. threatqualitypress +33

      Alex Trebek is trying to secure a monopoly on being the only Canadian who has the questions for the answers.

    2. stirringsofconsciousness +21

      You’re not allowed on the show if you have any personal connection with Trebek, so clearly Trebek knows all Canadians!

  12. catweazlol +47

    You know, we talk a lot of crap about Return of Kings but they are committed enough to their cause that they invested in a Shutterstock subscription and you have to admire that.

  13. typewriterandgramophone +13

    Nobody remembers a Canadian show that was almost like a bizarre dry run for “Ghostwriter” (there was AI *and* some kind of mysterious ghost-like intelligence that I think turned out to be an extraterrestrial) called “Read All About It”, right? It was on PBS when I was a child.

    (I was so disappointed when I became a slightly bigger child and still wasn’t able to roam free, solving crimes with three other children.)

    1. lilsebastian01 +6

      WE WATCHED THAT IN SCHOOL!!! It was on the closed-circuit TV that we did announcements on, and it was the most effective way to get us kids to finish our work on time. “If you don’t finish your work, you’ll miss the beginning of Read All About it!” I don’t think we got through the whole thing somehow, though.

  14. Tara +134

    FYI, Mallory’s Dear Prudence answer to the lesbian with the bisexual wife was reposted (with credit and a link) on tumblr with the comment “Finally, the Dear Prudence We Deserve” and at my last check had over 29,000 notes. So, congrats!

    1. Mallory Ortberg +6

      you mean an amazon affiliate link, or just a link to another website? because if it’s the latter, no.

  15. Currer_Belle +101

    I’m just here to sincerely apologize for South Carolina. I just- we-

    We let you down, team. We had a chance to make things right, and as usual, we lit that chance on fire.

    1. City_Dater +10

      That is a lovely book, and her research is impeccable. So many women served in various capacities during the second World War but never received military status (or any benefits). Not to mention all the women at home who kept the factories running and were harassed out of their jobs, post-war.

    2. cofax +7

      There’s a great YA book called Flygirl by Sherri Smith about a young black woman who passes as a white woman in order to join the WASPS and fly planes. It’s really good.

  16. deleted1892326 +80

    The “you must be 18+ to enter, are you sure you want to see adult content” wall before the medical reddit thread saved me from myself this morning.

  17. mikelywhiplash +69

    So, I might have read most of Kesha’s court papers yesterday, and I’m starting to be concerned that she has really crummy lawyers. They’re a firm that seems to mostly do Hollywood criminal defense. Your actor with a DUI or a pill problem etc. This is far above their paygrade.

    How do we get her better counsel?

      1. mikelywhiplash +34

        For one thing, my sense is that the writing isn’t particularly good, nor is there a lot of polish on the papers. That could be excusable, but it’s a red flag on a case of this magnitude.

        Beyond that, I think they don’t really make their best arguments. There are basically two contracts: an exclusivity deal with Dr. Luke, and one with Sony. For the first one, their big argument is that he sued her for breach, and therefore waived his right to keep enforcing the contract. That’s fine, but it doesn’t say anything about Sony, which hasn’t sued her.

        Sony made that argument, and Kesha’s attorneys basically ignored it, which makes me question if they really grasp the multiple entities they’re up against here.

        Sony has offered to let her work with a different producer, but stay under their umbrella. The argument against that is that Sony will never treat her fairly because of all this; they need Dr. Luke more than they need her, and so they’re going to halfass it regarding budgets and marketing, etc.

        I believe that, but it’s not the kind of thing that’s going to be intuitive to a judge, who sees Sony as a big company that will always try to make the most money. That’s a tough (but winnable!) argument that needs to be carefully established, and they sort of fall back to “take our word for it.”

        The procedural stuff is a little murky, too. I don’t think they’re clear on exactly what they want the court to do, which is a sure way to irritate the judge.

        And *none* of this makes the sexual violence central to her claims, which they really needed to do here.

        1. deleted9457019 +8

          Thanks for that summary, I see what you’re saying.

          I also wonder if the protest and publicity was counter-productive. My sense is that, rightly or wrongly, most judges take themselves very seriously and a protest in support of one side is only going to make the judge inclined against that side, sort of to show that she is a serious judge who decides on the law and not popular opinion. No way to know if that made any difference here, of course, but I suppose it’s possible.

          1. mikelywhiplash +12

            Yeah, that’s a fair point. Although I think the more important target of the protest here is not the judge, but Sony. She doesn’t have to win anything in court if they’ll back off.

        2. RainbowDash +7

          Yeah, it seems to me difficult to put an effective argument against Sony that’s as speculative as what Kesha’s lawyers are putting out. While their fears about Sony blackballing her are reasonable, the truth is that they really don’t know that Sony will. None of us do. If pairing her with a different producer still results in commercially viable work, Sony may actually treat her right. For me, my question is what protections does Kesha have if Sony doesn’t hold up their end of the bargain, and what power does the judge (or Kesha) have to put protections in place.

          But also, I find it so horrifying that any artist could be legally bound to a contract for such a length of time with no recourse. Even if Dr. Luke didn’t assault Kesha (which I absolutely believe he did), I still think she should be able to leave a work environment that is unpleasant for her for any reason at all. I’m fine with their being a financial penalty for breaking the contract, but it should be financially feasible (and maybe Kesha’s has it and she just doesn’t want to pay because she doesn’t want Dr. Luke to profit anymore off her; I haven’t found any reference to buyout beyond the fan created GoFundMe, which has no information). As I understand it from the judge’s ruling, Kesha’s functionally an indentured servant to Dr. Luke and Sony until Sony releases the 6 records AND Kesha has no power to force Sony to release records (so she could write and create enough music for it, get to record 6, and Sony could just say nope… we don’t think this is commercially viable. This apparently happened to a pop artist named JoJo, where her company didn’t like her music, wouldn’t release, and so she couldn’t complete her contract). How/why is this legal?

    1. VioletandIrises +34

      That judge sounds like a piece of crap.

      “You’re asking the court to decimate a contract that was heavily negotiated and typical for the industry,” said the judge to Mark Geragos, the attorney for Kesha, who sat in the back row with her mother Pebe and looked solemn.

      Really? Is sexual abuse typical? I can’t even…I’ve tried several times now to come up with a coherent expression of my thoughts and it’s not happening. The whole thing is making me too angry.

      1. hedinthecloud +28

        The judge also clearly does not know what decimate means. But that may be a bit pedantic to point out.

        1. sarahsaysssoo +5

          i think that uses decimate correctly, not the 1 in 10 meaning but the general usage meaning.

          1. sarahsaysssoo +7

            no she means remove a portion of. I haven’t read the contract but even if the injunction had been granted the entire contract would not have been thrown out, for one parts of it had already been performed and those parts would be upheld into the future, and there are also likely reps and warranties that would survive either way

          2. hedinthecloud +14

            oh! Then I misunderstood the situation. That’ll teach me – don’t act pedantic unless you’re willing to do the research.

      2. sarahsaysssoo +7

        the sexual violence is a matter for fact finders and the judge is not the fact finder. If Ke$ha’s lawyers want the ruling to be based on that there will have to be a jury trial. No judge in any court would have granted an injunction based on this motion

        1. VioletandIrises +15

          I get that the judge isn’t in the position to determine whether or not the abuse occurred; it’s the cavalier attitude that upsets me. She could have said “Sexual abuse is not something to be taken lightly, but unfortunately I don’t have the power to rule on that aspect of the case,” etc.

          But she was acting like this is any other ordinary contract dispute, and it’s not.

        2. themegnapkin +8

          But the standard on a preliminary injunction is basically likelihood of success + irreparable, and a strong showing on one of the elements may warrant an injunction even if the other element is weak. The court doesn’t have to make a factual finding that sexual abuse occurred in order to grant a preliminary injunction.
          (I’m speaking generally–I skimmed Kesha’s opening brief, but haven’t it in detail and haven’t read any of the other filings.)

          1. mikelywhiplash +11

            Yeah – except that Kesha’s attorneys don’t use sexual abuse as either grounds to annul her contract, or evidence of irreparable harm, as weird as that is.

            They basically make a procedural argument against Dr. Luke (which is imperfect but plausible) and ignore Sony altogether. So it’s not only *likelihood* of success on the merits that’s lacking, they don’t make a case that they will ever succeed on the merits against Sony.

        3. msbias +12

          I feel like there should be a ticky-box for “at the point at which your artist has made an allegation of sexual assault against her manager, the relationship has irretrievably broken-down”.

          But of course, we cannot have that because of all those hundreds of ladies just dying to fling out an allegation of rape to get out of their responsibilities.

          1. RainbowDash +1

            What is so frustrating to me after spending this past weekend feeling sick and Googling as much as I could for information is that this is NOT a he said/she said case at all. Per the 2011 deposition, the allegations against Dr. Luke have been floating around for years with multiple people having been told that Dr. Luke had drugged Kesha (and I think also that he raped her, but the deposition pages I’ve been able to find are discontinuous, which makes some exchanges difficult to follow). There’s apparently an email exchange between Jared Scharff and Dr. Luke that contained something that led Kesha to be asked about being roofied.

        1. sourwatermelons +21

          I was glad to see so many female artists reacting with apparent shock/horror to what happened to Kesha, because I feel like that might imply that it isn’t totally the norm in the industry. It’s probably common (ugh) but at least it’s not happening to everybody.

    2. foxinthe_snow +54

      Apparently Taylor Swift just gave her $250k so maybe she can put that towards better lawyers.
      I want this man to be brought to justice so badly and I hate how the media is beginning to spin this situation into shitting on female celebrities who haven’t tweeted in support of Kesha rather than keeping the focus on the horrific abuse of power by men in the music industry. It’s great that lots of women are speaking out in support of Kesha, and I hope it continues, but female celebrities who don’t are not the ones who need to be held accountable in this situation. It is derailing from the real issue, in the same way journalists love to ask famous women whether or not they’re feminists and shred them if they give the wrong sort of answer, while at the same time praising male celebrities for doing the least if they bother to ask them that question at all.

      1. VioletandIrises +18

        I’m glad for Kesha that she has the money to use if needed, but I can’t help but think that Taylor’s donation wasn’t really a selfless act. It screams stunt to me, and it takes attention away from Kesha and the importance of what’s happening to her, and puts a spotlight on Taylor. Because Taylor Swift has to be at the center of everything.

        Maybe I’m jaded? Idk. *sigh*

        1. sarahsaysssoo +64

          but over the weekend everyone was shitting on taylor and other big stars that they hadn’t helped. and then she does help, and she still gets shit on

          1. foxinthe_snow +31

            I feel like this is happening to her over and over again right now. She’s done some questionable things, and things I definitely don’t agree with, but the backlash against her lately has been ridiculously out of proportion and very gendered.

          2. VioletandIrises +7

            I didn’t know that people were actively calling on her to do something, so the donation makes more sense in that context. No matter what, it’s extremely generous. However, a generous action can still be motivated by self-interest. I don’t think saying she’s self-involved is gendered. Many men and women alike have narcissistic streaks.

            Take Sean Penn running around with a shotgun trying to look like an action hero during Katrina. Yes, he was trying to help the victims, but he still managed to draw the attention to his own antics.

          3. RainbowDash +57

            Honestly, I don’t care if Taylor Swift is self-interested or not. People were calling on her to tweet support, which would have done jack all for Kesha (and Taylor Swift was a maid of honor at a wedding this weekend, so probably fairly busy during the time period after the ruling came in). Instead, Taylor Swift donated a significant amount of money, which may actually help Kesha. I don’t think Swift deserves to be crapped on for coming up with something useful to do to support Kesha.

          4. redheadedwolf +31

            Yes, this. If you’re going to condemn every charitable action that may have also had a streak of self-interest, then you’d better give up on charity.

          5. foxinthe_snow +8

            Oh no! I’m sorry: I didn’t intend my comment to sound like I was passive-aggressively attacking you, though I now realise that it did rather and I apologise.

            I was thinking more of the press and also I’ve been lurking on ONTD where the tide seems to have turned against her massively. You’re not wrong that she does a lot of stuff for rather calculated motives, particularly when it comes to her ‘squad’ and her relationships to other celebrities. In this case however, I think she chose not to engage with the criticism (and particularly with Demi Lovato) and instead donated money without looking for a fanfare. She frequently donates like this – not releasing a statement but not hiding it either and leaving it to the recipients to choose whether or not to publicise (though of course it looks very good for her if they do! and doubtless that’s part of her motivation) and draw media attention to themselves or their cause. It’s easy to be cynical about how altruistic this really is, but at least money goes to good causes, which gain a publicity boost and often more donations from her support.

          6. redheadedwolf +17

            I’ll say it again: I know Taylor Swift is rich, but I think she’s smart enough to find a stunt that comes somewhere under $250,000, if she’s all about self-interested stunts.

        2. redheadedwolf +31

          If it’s a stunt, it’s one that also substantially helps Kesha’s legal battle while also expressing support in a more tangible way than just tweeting. Do you think she should have refrained from donating in order “not to be in the spotlight,” even though that has zero impact on the actual legal case?

          I think this is more beneficial than an anonymous donation, because it’s always great when there are public examples of women backing each other up when they’re fighting for themselves after sexual assault.

          1. alula_auburn +12

            Yeah, like the Sean Penn stuff bugs me because I suspect he was actually IN THE WAY. A financial donation isn’t like that.

          2. redheadedwolf +5

            Not remotely like that. Did she hold a press conference to announce her donation? Unroll it on a banner on the side of the courthouse?

            I know Taylor Swift is rich, but I think she’s smart enough to find a stunt that comes somewhere under $250,000, if she’s all about self-interested stunts.

        1. redheadedwolf +8

          People are just so good at shitting on things that don’t merit it, especially on Twitter!

  18. crystabrittany +15

    Is there a way I can make the links on the round-up open in new tabs by default? Because I like them but I most like all of you, so I want to finish reading all of your comments first, then go read the stuffs. Not like right clicking is that hard for me, but…sometimes it is, apparently.

    1. beyoncepadthai1 +6

      If you’re on a desktop with a mouse that has that scrolly wheel in the middle, you can use that (it only saves you one click but that helps when you are, not that I’m talking about me or anything, horrifically lazy)

    2. keristars +2

      (oops, mixed up the comment boxes and left a new comment in the wrong spot, sorry!)

      Also I was really confused because don’t ALL links open in new tabs?? and then i realized that I usually click on links in the comments but only skim the ones up top, unless a thread makes me think I should read it NOW, because I wait to read the long stuff when I get home from work.

    3. viviennestreet +8

      I think if you look through your browser options you can probably set links to always open in new tabs.

      Also, if you use windows, holding ctrl and then clicking normally should make links open in a new tab.

    4. stirringsofconsciousness +2

      It is also super-hard when I accidentally click on a link while on mobile! I too am for new tab opening!

  19. Elizabeth A +91

    That RoK thing is a total piece of male fantasy both about what women want, and about women’s magical organizational powers. Anyone can blow town for a weekend to meet up with a crush, but women are magical enough that we can align the stars to both find the unicorns who want to be in threesomes, and find a weekend that works for everyone, and set up the flights and hotels. This must be why executive assistants are so likely to be women!

    Does RoK get turned on reading about Mina Harker memorizing the railway timetables for Europe?

    (Full disclosure – if I was both dying and stuck in a room with anyone involved with RoK, I would not resist temptation to screw with their minds by whatever means seemed most immediately entertaining.)

  20. deenuhh +6

    This isn’t related to the link roundup but if I wait until Friday for the OT I will most certainly forget that I wanted to ask this but does anyone have a fitbit and want to be toastie fitbit friends? I don’t have enough people I know in real life that have one and I’d love to build more of a fitbit community!

  21. keristars +57

    Today is the first day for early-voting in the Florida primaries and as soon as I get my lazy ass out of bed (perks of working Tues-Sat, I guess), I’m going to go put in my choice. And then I’m going to treat myself to tater tots and a cherry-limeade from Sonic, as is my voting-day tradition. (I literally never go to Sonic except the days I vote at that particular library, it’s a special day for me.)

    I just also realized I got an email saying it’s time to renew my library card so what a great day it is. I get to perform my civic duty and get a shiny new library card key fob and a cherry-limeade!

    1. phoebeblue +6

      I wasn’t sure if I’d registered for an absentee ballot in time, but I DID! Dropped it in the mail this morning, hopefully it gets counted properly (I’m always anxious about that, esp since the Bush/Gore debacle).

      1. keristars +11

        Bush/Gore AND ALSO “we’re calling the election even though there are 10,000 absentees uncounted”** is why I always vote early in person, since it’s so hard for me to get to my polling place on the day of. (Also, it’s in a church and I really dislike voting in churches.) That I have Mondays off and there are a lot of library locations in Duval County makes it easy for me to do.

        ** I believe that Rick Scott won the election by something like 2,000 votes? less than 1%! and they hadn’t counted all the absentees when it was called. I was so pissed!

        1. phoebeblue +5

          Ugh, Governor Skeletor. I missed that election and was really upset- I’m terrible about forgetting election dates, and when you combine that with anxiety about routine changes and crowds, absentee is THEORETICALLY the best option. Come on Florida, be less… *Floridian* this time, please!

          1. keristars +3

            Well, I just got home and it turns out I have been thinking all weekend that it’s the last weekend in February, that yesterday was the 28th and today is the 29th. I am wrong!

            All day Friday and all day Saturday I had to stop myself at work because I was doing end-of-month things, and had to remind myself that there was an entire week left. What the heck is wrong with my brain???

            Anyway, ugh, yes that election was awful. Alex Sink was down by .5% near the end, and the difference between their leads was LESS than the number of uncounted votes, but 98% of the precincts were counted and something like 80% of the absentees were done, and the Sink campaign decided to call it a night rather than fight Scott on it. It was so frustrating! I don’t understand why or how they can call elections before all/most of the precincts are done reporting.

            On a different note, do you listen to Capitol Report? It’s on my local public radio station weekdays at 6:30 during the legislative session (not sure about other regions’ stations, I think 90.1 in Orlando airs it at a different time?), and I’ve found it invaluable for keeping informed about the bills that end up on the ballot, since the Times-Union doesn’t really do a good job of reporting unless it’s to their conservative favor.

    2. keristars +7

      OH MY GOD I AM AN IDIOT.

      I was 10 minutes down the road and something Diane Rehm said on the radio clued me in that it’s February 22 today. NOT the last weekend in February.

      Voting starts next week. -.-;;

        1. keristars +5

          I went with popcorn chicken and onion rings at the deli instead because tater tots and cherry-limeade are only to celebrate voting, darn it. I can’t ruin a 10-year tradition!

  22. deleted7541601 +61

    Deep in my heart I want to believe that Trump will never be president. But I fear my faith in Americans has declined so steeply in the last decade that anything is now possible.

    1. hystericaldora +17

      I was a little bit excited when Donald Trump decided to run, thinking about how the Republican debates would be fun. But surely he would drop out before the first primary! Surely no one would vote for him! I treated this election like entertainment, and the best entertainer is winning, and I feel like that is what I have done to deserve this.

      (I’m now going to resume quietly sobbing as all manifestations of hope for and goodwill toward my fellow Americans and my future self drain from my body. How is this happening?)

    2. Frumiosa +15

      I mean this is probably the one thing keeping me from voting Bernie in the primary – I seriously don’t trust America to elect a socialist Jew. I wish I did.

  23. irreverantontheinternet +119

    Why are men so convinced women want to have sex with animals?? One guy in college was completely dumbfounded when we revealed that the “horse phase” most women go through isn’t related to some burning desire to have sex with horses…

      1. neuromanticism +74

        I’ve heard that from LOTS OF DUDES for some reason. They literally cannot conceive of women having an actual, life-consuming, passionate, mastery-focused hobby. I remember reading a thread on a usually very feminist message board where a threadful of guys convinced reach other that it’s all about rubbing up on the saddle when you ride, or feeling a great powerful being between your legs. No, dudes, it’s about figuring it out. Animal behaviour is no less challenging than programming. Mastering how to communicate with body language, how to read a situation, how to project authority, how to use subtle weight shifting to move 800 lbs of muscle, how to have the discipline and follow-through to show up at 6 AM to shovel an entire stable of shit to earn the chance to ride, how to navigate the relationships in the stable and the relationships with the horses. It’s problem-solving, comradeship and leadership, ffs. What about that doesn’t sound fun? A stable is basically a super challenging, super rewarding environment with almost no men. There’s no need to shoehorn sex in there, horse girls have plenty of interesting things to do already.

        1. kayjayoh_ +19

          I never went through a horse phase, because early experiences with horses taught me that actually riding was unpleasant. But man, I so want to print this out and frame it. Or better yet, make it a cross stitch.

  24. literarysara +23

    “I can’t stop thinking about Kesha” is exactly what I said to my gentleman friend while we were cooking dinner yesterday. We were listening to Grimes, whose music is new to me but I was really enjoying it, and I think it’s really cool that she writes and produces her own music and videos and everything, but then… I couldn’t stop thinking about Kesha.

  25. whollyword +51

    When did Sansa turn the corner from Puppy into Dog? The uppy ears make her look more like a grown-up, no?

    Sending scritches for her, if she’d be into that. SO FLOOFY.

  26. rococopacetic +23

    Oh god, I used to work in medical publishing, and one of the magazines I designed was about dermatology. I still have nightmares. It never fails to blow my mind how long people will go before seeing a doctor.

    1. OncoMouse +11

      NOT OKAY. But I read it anyway. WHY.

      I wish I could sort it by “worst thing and the person recovered” so that I can marvel at the resiliency of the human body rather than wanting to crawl under my desk and hide because the human body is just a fragile, fragile collection of squishy bits and less squishy bits.

    2. halloweenjack64 +6

      Well, OK, look. There is probably a huge amount of exaggeration in that story. I mean, people can get pretty bad internal abscesses, sure, and they can build up a fair amount of pressure, but… hitting a wall seven feet away? Getting ankle-deep in the stuff? No. Just, no. If it was under that much pressure, she would have already died, and if there was quarts of the stuff, they would have found something to drain it into. It has the air of a story that gets exaggerated a little more each time it’s told.

    1. katenepveu +20

      DR. CARSON MR. CRUZ
      WHAT DID THEY SAY TO YOU TO MAKE YOU THINK THIS WAS NOT EXTREMELY SILLY
      DR. CARSON MR. CRUZ
      YOU SPENT HALF AN HOUR TALKING IN A CLOSET! PEOPLE! SERIOUSLY, REALLY?

      Thank you very, very much.

    2. stirringsofconsciousness +14

      That was AMAZING. And this actually happened. This…you have to laugh or you’ll cry. Or drink. (And ladies of fertile age aren’t allowed to drink, THANKS CDC.)

    3. Frumiosa +6

      Ha! I just posted this in response to a comment on the other Alexandra Petri article, above in the Roundup.

  27. socordya +96

    I doubt Hot Early Thirties Blond Cancer Lady actually died of cancer. It’s probable she was actually silenced by the Feminazi Police before she could reveal the Tenth Great Feminine Secret.

  28. Elizabeth A +30

    That RoK thing is a total piece of male fantasy both about what women want, and about women’s magical organizational powers. Anyone can blow town for a weekend to meet up with a crush, but women are magical enough that we can align the stars to both find the unicorns who want to be in threesomes, and find a weekend that works for everyone, and set up the flights and hotels. This must be why executive assistants are so likely to be women!

    Mina Harker memorized the railway timetables for all of Europe, and women have been living with that male fantasy ever since.

  29. winterbymorning +61

    I know Sansa is a marvel of selective breeding but could they maybe genetically engineer the next generations of Sansas to have a longer puppy phase? She went from smol to huge in like, 3 days. The world needs more smol!

    1. tombstone +5

      my doggy is a papillon mix and people always think she’s a puppy. Nope, she’s gonna be eleven pounds with giant eyes forever!

  30. sarahsaysssoo +19

    Kesha’s lawyers have set this up as a contract dispute governed by NY law which is strongly in favor of upholding contracts when at all possible and especially when both parties are sophisticated as they were here and when there is no ambiguity or lack of clarity in what the parties meant which there wasn’t here.
    This judge couldn’t have ruled on the sexual violence because Friday was about an injunction and motions to dismiss by both parties and not about fact finding. If Kesha’s attorneys didn’t fully explain that to her then they aren’t doing their job and should be ashamed of themselves.

  31. jimmyjimjimjim +96

    Also you know the RoK article is fake because there’s no such thing as a hot woman who’s over 30.

    1. keristars +28

      It was such a relief to hit 30 and realize I could stop bothering with shaving my legs and wearing make-up, since it wouldn’t matter anyway.

      (I mean, not that I ever wore makeup or shaved my legs above the knee in the first place.)

    2. pretty_monster +19

      30 was when i went from acting like i didn’t care what people thought of me to LITERALLY giving zero fucks. a very liberating transition.

  32. stirringsofconsciousness +18

    That Ghostwriter article is everything!

    I’m tired of 90s nostalgia, but it’ll all have been worth it if I can get to read an oral history and the ability to stream all of Square One.

  33. halloweenjack64 +12

    – #Trollfoot is now one of the guiding lights of my life.

    – The “Electric Universe” people make a sort of corresponding bookend to the “Electrical Magic” people of the nineteenth century, such as Walford Bodie, who was the inspiration for “The Electric Messiah” in The Ruling Class. Back then, electricity was seen as almost magic–this fearsome natural force that could kill people but also make their lives incredibly easier as more and more gadgets powered by it came on the market. Now, it’s modern astrophysics that seem more like magic, as we find out more and more about the universe, but it’s done by orbital telescopes that the general public doesn’t have access to and via mathematical calculations that are absolutely impenetrable by a public that has a hard time passing algebra. So, you basically posit that the substrate of the universe has an electrical grid that the stars are plugged into. To a certain kind of mind, if you can’t prove otherwise to them in a manner that they can understand, you can’t prove it.

    – That thing about denying the WASPs their honors is disgusting, and I don’t think that it’s just about running out of space in Arlington National Cemetery.

    – That thing about bail is very plausible; unfortunately, it’s unlikely to get past the bail bond industry, which is huge.

    – Return of Kings is really for guys who can’t even talk to women, isn’t it? I mean, aside from some tired PUA scripts, they literally can’t even imagine a real conversation with a real woman.

  34. jlper +127

    “this guy insists that a hot, dying 30 year old woman told him ALL THE SECRETS about how terrible women are”

    To be fair, if I were a hot dying woman forced to have a conversation with that douchebag I would for sure try to mess with him as much as possible.

    1. bluer0ses +12

      I have bipolar disorder and several other things. I am on meds. I am taking my meds.

      My meds help “normal” feel normal instead of feeling like mildly depressed, but when I get severe episodes of depression, often lasting weeks, they don’t even touch it. I am having one of those episodes right now.

      I have missed two weeks of school. I am barely able to get out of bed, clean myself, cook for myself. Things are really bleak.

      But I’m not suicidal so I don’t know what would happen if I went to the hospital. I would hate to go and have them just send me home.

      1. OoTheHumanities +17

        If you feel you need to be there, I don’t think they will send you home. Good vibes for you, and I know it will get better.

      2. beachlass +30

        One of the problems I have with living with depression is that during an episode I use “not actively suicidal” as a benchmark for health. In better times, that phrasing looks more like a warning flag to me.

        Big hugs.

        It sounds like you could use some more support or a med tune up right now and if going to the hospital is the best way of accessing that help, then that might be a good choice. Missing weeks of school, not being able to get out of bed or cook/clean – those are “sick enough” indicators to reach out.

        Good luck. We’re pulling for you.

      3. shellygrrl +8

        OMG, go do what you need to do to get yourself back on track. Even if it means checking yourself in.

      4. twenty4as +15

        I would agree with the other folks that if you’re feeling it’s time to reach out, reach out- even if it’s to your primary care provider if you have one (or maybe a nurse at your clinic, if you go to a clinic). Most likely they’ll be happy to help you make a decision. Sending good thoughts your way and I’m glad you reached out here.

      5. Ivans_Sister +9

        If you went to the hospital and you’re not…worthy of being checked in (for lack of knowing the real term) you’d at least be around professionals who could look at where you are OBJECTIVELY and help you figure out where you really need to go. To me, this is a “the worst thing they can say is no” kind of a thing.

        Thinking of you, for sure.

  35. RudyRed +13

    I just found out that one of the people killed in Kalamazoo was a friend’s mother-in-law, which makes the whole thing even worse for me. (Obviously it’s horrible no matter what, but that made it more personal.) What the fuck is up with this country’s priapic obsession over guns.

    1. Bunburying +4

      I’m sorry for your friend’s loss. I was in a somewhat similar situation years back when my cousin’s wife had been friends with an adult who died in the Sandy Hook Elementary attack. It was a rather melancholy Christmas. I wonder how long until we reach the point in America where everyone will know someone who died in a mass shooting.

  36. Mrs_Peel +19

    Apropos of nothing, I had my first Toast-related dream yesterday: that Mallory, Nicole, and I were living together in a college dorm. It was a great time, no doubt full of sitcom-like hijinxs.

  37. diaryofamadeditor +16

    I missed this super lovely interview in Paper last week, a conversation between bell hooks and Emma Watson. They admit that they have mutual girl crushes on each other. And they talk about literacy, beauty, pitfalls of celebrity activism, self-education, “basic,” and Hermione’s development as a character… It’s super good. You should read it too, Toasties.
    http://www.papermag.com/emma-watson-bell-hooks-co

    Here’s a lovely bit:

    hooks: I was thinking that the two things that I think are so vital for women globally are self-love and literacy. Growing up in a fundamentalist Christian home with very narrow beliefs about gender — initially, my eyes were opened by reading.

    Watson: Those would be my exact two as well. My understanding that has allowed me to feel so much more accepting and loving of myself as a woman — it came through reading.

    hooks: Often people in the West forget that masses — millions and millions of women and girls in the world — don’t have access to education and are not taught to read and write.

    Watson: That’s right.

  38. constablewindsor +35

    Long time reader, first time commenter, but I had to come confess. That story about “Early Thirties Hot Dead Chick Reveals Secrets”? I managed to read the ENTIRE THING thinking this woman was a Fabulous Broad from the 1930s, swanning about like Gloria Swanson in a satin slip dress with a ridiculously long cigarette holder, giving her final interview about the decadent ways of Old Hollywood.

    It’s actually a much better read that way, to be honest.

    1. SmrtCookie +13

      I’m a michigander and I was flipping through the radio on my way to work this morning. One of the stations was talking to a TV reporter in kzoo and she spent the entire interview talking about how his friends and family were just so shocked and he was targeted by repeated thefts so you can’t blame him for having a gun and on and on. The dj, who is usually just as terrible as your average morning dj, cut her off and called her out. If even that dude gets it I’m not sure why everyone can’t get on board.

  39. houblonchouffe +13

    OMG OMG OUR HOMETOWN AIRPORT DOG IS REDDIT FAMOUS

    *deep breath*

    Piper is the offically-unofficial wildlife chaser of KTVC, and he is the sweetest dog in the world. He and his handler are often out and about in town doing outreach and socialization (read: sometimes they are having drinks) and oh man they are both so rad, Piper is always cheerful and when he first had his broken toe he was SUCH A SAP about it. “Oh. Oh poor me. No, I’m fine. Really I’m fine,” expressions all over the place.

  40. jmstevenson76 +12

    Awesome job in NYC has offered to fly me out to meet the team and do the in-person interview. Yay!

    Umm… at what point do I mention that I will possibly be facing a brutal commute, and inquire about flex work arrangements?

    1. keristars +2

      Oh gosh it probably depends on how the conversation goes, but I suppose when you are sounding out whether they are a good culture-fit for you and they are trying to see whether you would fit in with them, you can ask what kind of schedules their employees keep and if there are arrangements for remote work during travel time.

      They might want you to spend your work-time in the office at first, to get used to things, with a look at flex later.

      Good luck!

  41. askelade +8

    BREAKING NEWS GUYS but I am watching “Jeopardy!” right now and there is a contestant from Montreal !!!!!!!!!

    1. walrathem +1

      There’s hope yet!

      /am heroically resisting the impulse to reference stereotypically Canadian word choices, pronounciation, linguistic habits, or places where one may purchase coffee and or pastries. Please be impressed.

    2. shellygrrl +1

      That was recorded weeks or months ago, I’m sure.

      The new “No Canadians!” rule likely is in force for next season.

      1. askelade +1

        Oh no!!!! That’ll teach me to get too excited about “Jeopardy!” and also (ahem) (*blushes*) not to follow the link and read the article.
        Eep.

  42. Maryaed

    Except that will be when we're all living in the homeless camps outside his compound waiting for him to turn on the water once in a while like in Mad Max.

  43. GoatseFanfic

    he's worked hard and developed his business and I think he has a right to do what he pleases with all of the water that exists. IDK why all you ivory tower socialists are so intent on redistributing a man's property away from him