As A Father Of Daughters, I Think We Should Treat All Women Like My Daughters -The Toast

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This classic Toast post originally ran on September 11, 2014.

Listen, as a father of daughters, I’m really against this kind of behavior, this kind of treatment of women. The kind where they get hurt or they can’t vote or we don’t give any money to them. You know the kind I’m talking about. The kind I don’t want my daughters to experience, and then I just sort of extrapolate out from there.

It didn’t always used to be this way. I used to only have sons. Things sure were different then. How merrily I used to drive down country lanes in my old Ford, periodically dodging off-road to mow down female pedestrians (you must remember I had no daughters then). Was what I did wrong? How was I to know? I had no daughters to think of.

Before I had daughters — Stimothy and Atalanta are truly the apples of my eye — I would follow women into voting booths and knock their hands away from the lever whenever they tried to engage in the democratic process. Who knew having daughters would change all that? Not I.

Personally, now that I have daughters, I don’t think anyone should do bad things to women, especially the ones who are my daughters. I think we should treat every woman in the world like she was my daughter, except for my wife and my mother, who I will treat slightly differently.

Did you know that when you have daughters, it’s like making a woman you have to care about out of parts of your own body? Well, it’s true. Now that I have daughters (two of them, to the best of my knowledge), I’ve got all sorts of new ideas about how to treat women. Now that I’ve got daughters, it’s time for the whole world to make some changes.

I’m not proud to admit this, but before I had daughters, I sometimes used to harvest women for their organs to build Liver Pyramids in my backyard. I just didn’t see a problem with it. I sure do now, though. What if someone killed my daughters just to make a pyramid, or even a ziggurat, out of women’s internal organs in their backyard? I sure wouldn’t like that at all. They’re my daughters!

Boy oh boy, do I regret all the women I paid an illegal sub-minimum wage to, then cannibalized before I had daughters. If I could take that back, you can sure bet I would.

Before, I wasn’t sure what women were. I’m not a scientist. Who was to say they weren’t holographic projections sent to fool me by some sort of evil demon? But now I know what women are: different versions of my daughters, running around the planet in all sorts of different faces and hairstyles. If every woman in the world is sort of like my daughter, then that makes me everyone’s dad, sort of. And we should all be nice to my daughters.

After all, I’m their father.

[Joke inspiration to Jasmine Guillory, who truly is the best Jasmine]

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Definitely naming my future daughter Stimothy now. But since she's my future daughter and I don't have any daughters yet, I obviously can't read the rest of this piece or respect your opinion. See you in a few years when I have daughters.
1 reply · active 477 weeks ago
Stimothy.
Lost it at Liver Pyramids.
8 replies · active 550 weeks ago
Please tell me "Atalanta" is a Numenor joke. Please please please.
9 replies · active 550 weeks ago
I just copyedited a YA novel with a main character named Atalanta. It was marvelous.
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thelyesmith · 550 weeks ago

Sometimes you're a father to some daughters, but you wish they were more protected and less able to make independent (I.e. wrong) choices, and you'd like to enlist the government in helping you to do so :http://feministing.com/2014/09/11/missouri-lawmaker-sues-to-deny-his-daughters-birth-control-access/
4 replies · active 550 weeks ago
is this like a sequel to the dirtbag timetravelers story
"I think we should treat every woman in the world like she was my daughter."

From now on, whenever a woman needs a lift home from choir practice, or someone to test her on her spellings, I'll be there. I will let the women of the world have pizza for supper while my wife's away. I will ask every woman in the world why they're not thinking about law school, and tell them that if they ever have a boyfriend, I'll chase him away from the house with my shotgun, but in a jokey way, because they know I don't have a shotgun.
3 replies · active 466 weeks ago
Wasn't this a Russ Douthat column?
1 reply · active 550 weeks ago
Clearly plagiarisms; Have read this exact article hundreds of times
1 reply · active 549 weeks ago
what are women? we just don't know.
4 replies · active 466 weeks ago
My love for the Toast is similar to my love for Tom Hiddleston. Just when I think I can't love them any more than I already do, something comes along to prove me wrong.
1 reply · active 550 weeks ago
In fact I am a holographic projection sent to fool men by some sort of evil demon. How did you know??
How strange, the byline says Mallory and not Gripyfish's Dad; maybe a typo?

oh, wait, having daughters has to this point provoked no changes in his behavior, alas.
3 replies · active 550 weeks ago
I don't have daughters but I do have a female cat, so I'm going to treat all women like they were my cat. "Who's a stupid pretty baby? Who's hungry? Who doesn't know how to convey what she wants but won't stop meowing at me incessantly? Who hates moving apartments? It's you!" and then scratch them under the chin.
4 replies · active 466 weeks ago
I mean I used to go around castrating all Men willy-nilly until I had sons, so I kind of get this guy's point.
7 replies · active 466 weeks ago
One cool way to try caring about the experience of another person is to create another person
This is basically the best thing ever.
I love how firmly this piece clarifies how daughters are the only women who count, because this is always something I've wondered about. But this makes it obvious. Wives and mothers aren't women! They give up that title when they marry/give birth to a man. In fact, they become imperceptible as soon as they associate themselves with a man in this way, which is why a man obviously can't learn anything from wives or mothers. Only once a man has put his own genetic material into the making of a woman can he begin to perceive her and her place in the world.

Like, you obviously wouldn't make a liver pyramid with a liver you were responsible for creating. That's just wasteful.
1 reply · active 466 weeks ago
I refuse to take down my Liver Pyramids made of men's livers until I have sons and I will never have sons so my Liver Pyramids will continue to grow to unwieldy heights.
11 replies · active 466 weeks ago
Requesting an iteration of this excellent, excellent piece told from John Mayer's POV
1 reply · active 550 weeks ago
"Fathers be good to your daughters
Daughters will love like you do
Girls contain livers
But don't make a liver pyramid
Mothers are fair game maybe"

~ A SONG BY JOHN MEYER, A GOOD DAD, YESSIRREE
3 replies · active 550 weeks ago
This is inconsistent with the Official Toast Stance on Dads, is it not?
2 replies · active 550 weeks ago
Oh man. I love this so, so much.
Scrolled down hoping for an NBC Hannibal gif or two and found none; were I not on my work computer I would provideth such; alas someone else must do it for me....
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prizefight · 550 weeks ago

Mallory, every day I read you and every day I open my heart to you more, and I'm so, so scared that you are going to hurt me à la Lindy West/Ricky Gervais. I want to trust you—I DO trust you—but there is still part of me that can't believe a love like this can last. Please never do anything racist or transphobic or sanction GMOs or talk about how the US has a right to Canada's water under NAFTA or get finnicky about the historical accuracy of the knitted garments on Outlander--because obviously the knitted garments MAKE Outlander, who cares if they are accurate--or what have you.
6 replies · active 550 weeks ago
idk, mallory, like if i gotta go, i'd like to go as a liver pyramid, you know?
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Felicity · 550 weeks ago

This is a side note, but last night I dreamt that I was hanging out with Mallory and Nicole (and by hanging out I mean just standing around and listening to them talk and goggling about how lucky I was) and it was the BEST DREAM EVER. And I was so sad to wake up. But then I got to come read this, so, okay, I'll take it, and be grateful.
Never regret cannibalism.
A Paper Moon fan, I see.

Seriously, though, why not just add mens' livers to the pyramid? You get all the benefits of having a liver pyramid without the crushing guilt.
1 reply · active 477 weeks ago
At this point, the only way I'm getting through life/its endless bullshit is The Toast. Thank you for making everything cathartic also goddamn hilarious and also having throngs of awesome commenters who make me feel less crazy/angry/alone in the world.
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catmanscrothers · 550 weeks ago

~blessblessblessblessbless~

there was this bullshit article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bret-spears/10-things-no-one-ever-told-me-about-having-a-daughter_b_5745710.html) that said "No one ever told me that having a daughter would automatically turn me into a feminist," but didn't elaborate on this point at all?? Like, your partner shits out some little screaming sack of flesh and suddenly you care about gender inequality????
1 reply · active 550 weeks ago
I can't wait till a man says something about how great this post is so I can go ahead and admire it totally.
1 reply · active 466 weeks ago
I get so irritated by people who feel the need to indicate their authority with " as a father of " or " as a mother of" Every living thing with gonads can potentially make this claim. If you're going to claim to be an authority on something, how about referencing an accomplishment that is not as universal as the ability to breathe oxygen.
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"Orange Mike" Lowrey · 549 weeks ago

I don't know; as the son, brother and husband of one or more women who was thus already a feminist BEFORE my wonderful daughter came along, I thought this was pretty hilarious.
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leahmarilla · 477 weeks ago

My least favorite trope in media AND THE WORLD! Amazing.
&lt; <a href="http://;http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2016/04/12/equal-pay-for-equal-work-monica-galizzi-beth-humberd-kimberly-merriman>" target="_blank">;http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2016/04/12/equal-pay-for-equal-work-monica-galizzi-beth-humberd-kimberly-merriman&gt;

Halfway down Galizzi links to articles on an actual Daughter Effect on the behaviour of CEOs, Supreme Court Justices, and Legislators.
Ugh, I can't make the link work, but it's at WBUR's Cognoscenti page under the title Mind The Pay Gap
Oh Mallory, please rewrite with the gender roles switched.
Like, "Until my son got his girlfriend pregnant, I never internalized the key role that men play in procreation. Now I am in awe of the amazing bodies of all the men I meet, and how they have the potential to generate LIFE."
or
"Now that I have a son, I realize that every man that I manage at work is someone's son. Every time I prepare for performance reviews I keep this in mind, and try to treat them all with the gentleness yet tough love that they deserve."
1 reply · active 466 weeks ago
"Who was to say they weren’t holographic projections sent to fool me by some sort of evil demon?"

What Descartes really meant was filias ergo sum
"Anyway, my daughters are both grounded because they tried to eat a neighborhood cat, so what I'm saying, women, is that you're all grounded, too."
1 reply · active 466 weeks ago
Everything about this is brilliant, but I can't stop laughing at Stimothy.
As I didn't comment the first time, this is still 100% ridiculously, fantastically, horrifyingly relevant.
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