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Bill-CosbyGrowing up, my brothers and I were only allowed to watch an hour of television a week. We had to be judicious with that time because there was so much we wanted to see and so little time. In 1984, when The Cosby Show premiered, we quickly decided to allot half an hour to Cosby even though that meant we could only watch another half hour of some other show. We were a middle class black family, living in the suburbs where we were the only family of any kind of color. The only time we saw people who looked like us with any regularity was when we visited family in New York or Port au Prince. On television, there was nothing at all. The Cosby Show was a breath of necessary air. Here was a family like ours—sprawling, loving, complicated, true, black. Each episode offered a satisfying narrative arc and there was always a greater lesson to be learned, hearty laughs to be had.

As Cliff Huxtable, Bill Cosby seemed like the most charming, loving dad in the whole world. When he needed to impart some kind of wisdom or discipline, he did, but there was always warmth and humor in everything he did. Claire Huxtable, played by Phylicia Rashad, was sassy and independent but maternal and loving. She had it all—a satisfying career as a lawyer and a rich home life. Cliff and Claire were still in love after many years of marriage and five children. The kids were funny and charming and they bickered the way my brothers and I bickered but also loved each other in a familiar, fierce way. Here, on our televisions, week after week, for years, was a glorious display of a happy black family, black love, and black success. The importance of The Cosby Show cannot be understated.

The show’s importance no longer matters. It cannot matter.

There are always alarming whispers about certain men. There are stories women share as a means of self-defense. Steer clear of him. Don’t be alone with him. Don’t trust him. In the past month, popular CBC radio personality Jian Ghomeshi lost his job. In the wake, several women came forward with stories of his abuse and then there was an overwhelming tide of people who knew about Jian, how there were stories about Jian. The whispers became something much louder, more fervent.

Bill Cosby has been followed by such whispers for some time now. Bill Cosby. The JELLO pudding man. The brilliant comedian. Cliff Huxtable. The philanthropist and proud supporter of Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The devil is cunning. And then Hannibal Buress started talking about Bill Cosby’s history of rape in his act. The whispers became something louder, more fervent.

Over the years, fourteen women have come forward, accusing Cosby of rape. His history of violence has been laid bare and it has not been enough. There are disturbing similarities between these women’s testimonies—often the women were drugged. Often, they were professionally vulnerable to Cosby and subject to coercion and manipulation.

There is a popular and precious fantasy that abounds, that women are largely conspiring to take men down with accusations of rape, as if there is some kind of benefit to publicly outing oneself as a rape victim. This fantasy becomes even more elaborate when a famous and/or wealthy man is involved. These women are out to get that man. They want his money. They want attention. It’s easier to indulge this fantasy than it is to face the truth that sometimes, the people we admire and think we know, are capable of terrible things.

And sometimes, it really is the people we know. Last year, I blurbed the debut novel of Gregory Sherl, because his co-writer asked me to. I had published his writing in a magazine I edited. We chatted online occasionally. I thought he was a talented writer and good guy. After my blurb was turned in, stories began surfacing about Gregory Sherl, the same way stories surfaced about Jian Ghomeshi and Bill Cosby and so many other men. Several young women have come forward with horrifying stories of the abuse they suffered at Sherl’s hands. I was and remain utterly appalled, knowing my words were on his book cover, endorsing his words when his actions were so reprehensible I have struggled with what to do and what to say but I have done my best. After a recent article about Sherl and the accusations he is facing came out, his lawyer e-mailed me, asking me to withhold judgment until both sides are known.

There is only one side that matters. I will err on the side of the victims, whether the abuser is Gregory Sherl or Bill Cosby or any other aggressor.

It’s all so repulsive—what Cosby has done, how many women have come forward, how many women may be out there, silent and afraid, and the extent of the system that allowed a man like Bill Cosby to prey on women in plain sight, the number of people who looked the other way, who helped him cover his crimes, who allowed his trespasses because he is Bill Cosby, wealthy and famous and seemingly above the law.

Rather than acknowledge the accusations, Cosby acts like they are a collective figment of imagination. In an NPR interview on Weekend Edition, Cosby responded to Scott Simon’s questions about the new allegations with silence. He simply shook his head. On November 16, his lawyer posted a mealy-mouthed statement on Cosby’s website mentioning Cosby’s age, as if his being 77 somehow excuses serial rape.

I can’t remember when I first heard these accusations but it has been many years. I’ve always believed these women but I have struggled because The Cosby Show meant so much to me. That episode, the one where Theo tries to prove he is independent and has to learn a life lesson about money? Classic. This is the pernicious trap a man like Bill Cosby has created. He believes his artistic legacy will absolve his criminal behavior. It cannot. We have to say enough. We have to stop implicitly or explicitly supporting Cosby. We cannot justify our fondness for him any longer. We have to demand that his show be taken off the air. We have to stop supporting any of his endeavors. His art does not absolve him. Art is nothing compared to humanity, nothing at all.

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I'm so sad about this and so happy your voice is out there as always. It's so hard to accept what people can be capable of. I'm only now getting better at pointing it out and refusing to be party to their excusers. Ugh.
"Art is nothing compared to humanity, nothing at all." This is beautiful & crucial.
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Thank you for this. I went through something very similar with Woody Allen-- I was raised loving him, watching his movies and my parents even read some of his more age-appropriate short stories to me as bedtime stories when I was a kid. And that meant that he was the one person I had to argue with my otherwise feminist friends about-- people who are easily ready to condemn a football player weren't willing to admit that their beloved Woody Allen could be guilty of evil. It seems trivial to even mention it but I feel a real loss that I can't watch some of my favorite movies anymore, comedies that I used to associate with comfort and home and laughter.
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It looks like they took down the link to the November 16th statement and replaced it with a little bit more legal jargon on the homepage.

Thank you for providing your voice on this, the last sentence says it all.
"There is a popular and precious fantasy that abounds, that women are largely conspiring to take men down with accusations of rape, as if there is some kind of benefit to publicly outing oneself as a rape victim. This fantasy becomes even more elaborate when a famous and/or wealthy man is involved. These women are out to get that man. They want his money. They want attention. It’s easier to indulge this fantasy than it is to face the truth that sometimes, the people we admire and think we know, are capable of terrible things.

And sometimes, it really is the people we know."

This. So much this. Ever since I first heard about the allegations against Cosby a year ago...I just...I can't even put into words the feelings, as a survivor. I appreciate this article a lot. Thank you for giving me some words where I haven't had them before.
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"If Shakespeare returned to the earth to-morrow, and if it were found that his favourite recreation was raping little girls in railway carriages, we should not tell him to go ahead with it on the ground that he might write another King Lear."

Orwell on the so-called benefit of clergy. It is not exactly the same, but it does deal with what excuses we are prepared to make for artists/famous people and/or their art. And while in theory I understand that I should be able to distinguish between the artist and their art, I find it very, very hard, if not impossible, when they're guilty of something so horrible.
I just want to say how glad I was to see this piece appear. I expected a thoughtful and nuanced examination of this issue and I was not disappointed. Thank you, Roxane, as always.
So Good, So Difficult.

As I think this kind of thing is going to surface more and more, the beloved media-character turning out to have done done something awful, we really have to start thinking about some way/pattern/system/framework for all those who loved his/their work to come to terms with that.

This might sound like 'but what about the menz' because, shouldn't our help and our sympathy be with the victims? YES. It should.

But the reaction of a nation/group of admirers to something they loved being so tainted & destroyed has a very high chance of being DENIAL (because au au au I don't want this to be true is the human-est reaction of them all), which in turn might lead to the Famous Person being able to get away with it much longer, as the admirers of their work will jump on the 'bitches just trying to undermine me' bandwagon.

How can/could/should we deal with this all to prevalent phenomenon?
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oh thank you for this. so much. i have just been ignoring the news about it because it's just so painful.

the devil is so cunning, indeed. thanks for using your words to help me get through this. As a comedy lover, a child of the eighties and most importantly a survivor I needed this.

life is hard.
Roxane, your writing makes me feel grounded more than just about any living writer I can name. I picked up "Bad Feminist" again yesterday and it calmed me down, which I sorely needed at the time.

Somehow even when you are writing about terrible things that happen to people, your work is quietly inspiring, maybe because you speak the truth so plainly and without rancor. Thank you.
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beyonce pad thai · 540 weeks ago

"There is a popular and precious fantasy that abounds, that women are largely conspiring to take men down with accusations of rape, as if there is some kind of benefit to publicly outing oneself as a rape victim. This fantasy becomes even more elaborate when a famous and/or wealthy man is involved."

SO TRUE and the reason I no longer go to one of my favorite festivals.

usually this is followed by "but he's never been convicted so we can't know for sure or pass judgement!". If only about 5 % of reported sexual assaults ever lead to conviction, I'm sure the numbers are even sadder when the accused are famous/wealthy, so that argument doesn't mean shit.
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beyonce pad thai · 540 weeks ago

Thank you for this thoughtful article.
Thank you for this. You are right. We have to shift until we value humanity over art.
Tangentially, I'm pretty much over the people on Twitter who seem to think that your entire internet presence should consist of continuous self-flagellation for ever having blurbed Gregory Sherl.
Sending this to evverrryyyybodyyyyyyyy
That perspective makes a lot more sense to me. I have definitely experienced that feeling of "Oh my god, how did I not see this and what does that mean about me as a person?" I've even had a couple bursts of crazy anxiety-logic where, after hearing that someone I never suspected could be a pedophile, wondering 'if even this person was, MAYBE I COULD TURN INTO ONE??' The idea that evil is not always recognizable is both terrifying in that we see it's potential in ourselves, and realize we can't really protect ourselves from it.
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Anonymous, please · 540 weeks ago

I know a man who was unjustly accused. I know it was unjust because I was there when the alleged thing happened and it didn't happen. What happened was, dinner with three people.

And this is why I can't say "Where there's fire there's fire." Because once I saw with my own eyes that there wasn't. And it is tearing me up inside because I also know what it's like to be disbelieved about accusations that are true.
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Wow the sentence "[its] importance cannot be understated" really got me like a hit in the head.
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Oof, I identify with this reaction so much. Bill Cosby wasn't a part of my childhood but Woody Allen was- he more or less helped shape my identity as a nerdy neurotic Jewish movie buff. I didn't realize until Dylan came forward just how much he was a part of my life, because now little jokes from his movies will pop into my head randomly and I'll feel sick. I envy people who said "I never liked his movies in the first place", because I did like them- I still do like them- and I wish I didn't.

Thus, I get why people want to ignore people coming forward and pretend the people who built their childhoods weren't monsters...but we can't do that. It isn't true, it hurts the innocent people they hurt all over again, and it allows other people in the future to think/know they can get away with it.
Thank you so much for your excellent and thoughtful commentary. I find my head in a stew over these things (Woody Allen, Bill Cosby) and your words are always so clarifying and ring so true.
Miles Davis. R. Kelly. Was just having this conversation with my daughter while watching the Aaliyah movie.
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Vincente · 540 weeks ago

Thank you for not burying your head just because you were a huge fan of the Huxtables. Sadly many are. Long before these rape claims (the Seventies) while The Huxtables, Pudding Pops and the rest of the charming, lovable on screen personalities Mr. Cosby used to seduce Americans and make millions I knew what an a-hole this man was. Having been a neighbor of his in Shelburne, MA I witnessed his arrogant/abusive behavior first hand and have heard endless stories from others. I used to suspect it was because he was a racist now I am wondering if it is far deeper than that. Needless to say I was never a fan, far from it. I despised this man when I saw him on tv. Now when I hear these stories of abuse I am not surprised one bit. Karma is a bitch Bill.
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Antonio M S · 540 weeks ago

I agree with so much of your article especially how some find it easier to disbelieve someone claiming rape than the possible purpetrator of the alleged crime. How many times have I thought "how can that be true?! She must be lying or after something", which is disturbing. I'd rather have believed that, then as you say, accept a famous person has committed a horrific act.

And others have commented, sometimes this is the case. Sometimes someone does wish to bring someone down for whatever reason.

Here in the UK, we have spent the past couple of years coming to terms with how many of the TV presenters my generation grew up with have been revealed to be monsters. They've been found guilty. Their fame should be erased unless speaking about them in a documentary. They have been found guilty though.

We live in a society that has laws in place to supposedly protect us and until we have a revolution and denounce the systems we occupy, I think we should honour them by not erasing or condemning someone until they have been found guilty.

Aye, there is no smoke without fire and these allegations are years in gestation and from an outsider's perspective there is a strong possibility that Bill Cosby could be guilty. However, the steps required to remove the accolades of that person can't and shouldn't be taken until either he vocalises something or is taken to court and found guilty.

Do you not agree?
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I'm not of the belief that we should condemn the artist's work after they do something horrible, because I believe strongly in separating the artist from the art. And Bill Cosby's place within the culture of the 20th century looms too large to be eradicated. But his accomplishments do not outweigh his severe moral failings as a human being. From now on, when people write about him, it will always be with a giant asterisk next to his name, like Elia Kazan, Roman Polanski, and Joe Paterno.
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Conflicted Concerned · 540 weeks ago

I am disturbed and conflicted by this whole situation. The one thing that bothers me is the quickness of people to assume. Some assume the accusers are looking for a payday and others assume he's 100% guilty. We should all know the reality is probably some where in between. The hard reality is that none of us have the facts. The only way for any of this to have legitimacy is through due process. So there is onus on Dr. Cosby to be forthright in addressing the allegations. As an African-American male, I’m also keenly aware of false allegations made against men and boys that look like me. People cite small percent but I assure you just as the Susan Smiths, Charles Stuart, Emmit Till, and Adam Lack cases allude to, there are many more cases (over 300 exonerated by the Innocence Project) that clearly show that all men who are accused are not always guilty. I also know that this is a no win situation. once this kind of allegation is made, you are forever suspect, even if you are totally exonerated. The scarlet letter sticks.

I am not saying I don’t believe the victims. I am saying they deserve to have the full story told and the incidents thoroughly investigated. They don’t deserve snap judgements either way. There is a lot of difficulty because most if not all of the collaborating evidence is now gone. So now it comes down to individual’s account of the events.

I teach psychology and every semester my students research and debate the efficacy of eyewitness accounts. EVERY class comes to the same conclusion,…they agree that due to the nature of human memory, no one can be convicted based on eyewitness accounts alone. This is over my strong protest that in many crimes all you have is the victims word. They hold fast to their researched based decision. Then, I share with them an article from Ask Jolene. The article describes a sexual assault on a college campus. The incident was a groping. So there’s no physical or coroborating evidence. They are left with the quandary we have here. The question I ask is does it make a difference if more people come forward with similar stories? Their research says, no. Their gut says, yes. The tough part is that absence of a confession we will probably never know the whole truth.

So here we sit not knowing what to do next. Some are burning all their old Cosby CD, records, video tapes and DVDs. Still others are blaming the victims for not coming forward sooner or casting aspersions on their character or motives. Neither of these is right until all of the information is in. For now we are left wallowing in cognitive dissonance, left with the question, “how do we know for sure?”
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DEAD-FUCKING-ON.
thank you SO much for writing this. for writing the Right.
I'm so sad about it. And I'm completely with you on erring on the victim's side. Why potentially violate them again by not believing their story?

When we went to college I found out my best friend had molested her. It's a long story but it turned out her grandfather who was a very strict, religious man had molested her and most of her siblings and cousins. He was certainly not the type of guy would expect to be capable of such atrocities but that didn't matter. He'd done it.

I feel so sad that Bill Cosby was one of those guys. The Cosby show was one of my favorites growing up. Good, wholesome, funny. And now it's all tarnished. If he did what these women say he did (and with so many women coming forward I am certainly inclined to believe them!) he was and is a monster. So sad.
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lintspeed · 540 weeks ago

Art is made by humans. Some humans are more despicable than others. I certainly agree that our love for the Cosby Show should not blind us to the real crimes committed by Bill Cosby. It should not absolve him in the eyes of the public, nor should it be used as a pretext to deny his victims justice. With something like the Cosby Show I can certainly understand feeling disgusted with the wholesomeness of the show versus the unwholesomeness of the man, with the hypocrisy and deception involved. But I guess I sorta think/hope that art sometimes takes on a life of its own and becomes larger than its creator, a component of the public consciousness, of culture-at-large. I'm sure there is art that I find indispensable that was created by people whose crimes were as bad as Cosby's. I hope that I can roundly and thoroughly condemn those crimes while still finding something of value in the way that sometimes terrible, awful people manage to make things of great beauty and truth. It's a wretched paradox, to be sure. I'm not by any means settled. And again, because it simply can't be said enough, Cosby's crimes are horrible and he should not be excused.
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Finally, an article and comments on Bill Cosby that I can read without wanting to defenestrate myself.
Thank you for this post. I too grew up with the Huxtables - the show impacted my life greatly. Since these latest allegations have surfaced, I've struggled with my original feelings about Bill Cosby and my horror at the realization that he's not what I thought he was. I hate this version of him, and it hurts that I loved that other one for so long and am losing it now. Of course the show means nothing now and should be pulled off the air. Of course I can't look up to him as I did, like a father figure. But I still grieve for this necessary loss of the Huxtables.
As more and more victims come forward, I believe as a nation we will all grieve deeply for the loss of a man who we believed portrayed the good husband and fatherly essence of Dr Huxtable in the Cosby show.
The Stephen Collins, Bill Cosbys and such men as this ( and women as well) will find their secrets becoming unburied and brought forth for all the world to see and judge. In the world today, where there is so much communication with mass media —whether written, broadcast, or spoken—it reaches massive large audiences. This includes television, radio, advertising, movies, the Internet, newspapers, magazines, and so forth. where the media is so upfront with communities like Facebook, Twitter etc. etc. it reflects and creates so much more coverage and depth then ever before. Communities and individuals are bombarded constantly with messages from a multitude of sources. It is getting harder and harder to "hide out" from the evils people have done and all the tangled webs they weave to deceive. We need to be prepared to find out more & more about the lives of celebrities, politicians and those in the so-called "limelight" to be held to accountability. You can't hide any longer people. Cameras on every street corner and buildings. People with camera phones, The days of seeming invisible are over.
You know, it's important to process and come to terms with having to re-evaluate a beloved media figure, but you know what, the women who are coming forward... I can't help feeling that maybe the focus should be on what they are going through instead of the pain of adjusting to a fairly predictable and routine case of a powerful, influential male media star turning out to have feet of clay.
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King Briscuit · 540 weeks ago

I have a few choice words to describe Bill: Sociopathic, narcissistic, arrogant, hypocritical, pathetic, clueless and un-funny
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Currysauce · 539 weeks ago

Excellent writing. And it's so refreshing to read so many positive comments and not one degrading or insulting you. I'm old enough to have been raised on Bill Cosby's records. My mother loved him and we listened to his comedy records often. We were poor, and are white, but his comedy was something everyone could relate to. I am also disappointed, disgusted and yet not entirely surprised at these allegations.

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