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Hello Businesslady!

I’ve been at my company for more than three years, but increasingly I feel like I’m drowning. I started in a part-time position and recently worked my way up to full-time. My boss and I generally get along pretty well and I enjoy him personally. But when he comes into the office in a foul mood, or I make a stupid error, then it’s like Mr. Hyde shows up. I pride myself on being able to take criticism, which is a basic part of what I do. I think I’m probably not actually doing that badly, and my boss just wants me to perform as well as I can. But I miss the days when I felt competent at my job and could go home and not be kept awake by feelings of inadequacy. (I’m a journalist, FWIW, so when I say boss, I mean “editor.”) Incidentally, two people who previously held my position both left because they felt like they were under too much pressure from our boss and couldn’t keep him happy. (They had other job options to go to, and I currently don’t have a good exit strategy.) Others have complained to our higher-ups about our boss’s anger management issues, and while he keeps those better contained these days, there’s still the occasional door-slamming outburst.

I haven’t had a performance review since starting my full-time position and I would like to ask my boss for one. He might be an asshole sometimes, but I think he’d be honest about whether I’m actually valuable to the company or not. I’d also like to explain that I need an “atta girl” every once in awhile and some less directly personal criticism. Is that a crazy idea?

Dear Drowning,

I’m not sure where to begin with this response, probably because you’ve introduced the specter of the Vengeful Editor and I see your boss scowling at every sentence I start to write. He’s not even here and it’s stressing me out, so I can only imagine how tough it is for you to work with someone who makes you feel inadequate.

There are also a lot of different dimensions to your problem, so I’m going to try to break it into its component parts.

First and foremost—in case it makes you feel any better—the yelling, door-slamming, and other nonsense your boss is pulling is decidedly unprofessional. It’s not okay, and it’s likely something he gets away with because he’s so stellar at some other aspect of his job that higher-ups are willing to tolerate his otherwise bad behavior. We can debate the wisdom of that tradeoff (although he’d better be really good at meeting his goals if he has an entire office walking on eggshells around his moods), but one way or another, it’s the way things are.

The good news is he’s basically throwing tantrums, and tantrums are not to be taken seriously. If you offer a toddler a cookie, and they throw it on the ground and say “I hate you,” the correct response is not to begin doubting your relationship with said toddler and your own capacity for cookie selection. Now, in your case, I realize that giving your boss a time-out isn’t exactly practicable, but what if he doesn’t know he’s in time-out? The next time he storms in directing glare-beams at everyone in his path, treat him like the cranky child he is and mentally insulate yourself from him until he’s calmed down. And if you do have to deal with him, remember: this has nothing to do with you.

We talked about feedback last month, but we didn’t really touch on its close companions: bad management (more on that below) and impostor syndrome. Obviously your boss is there to ensure your work meets certain standards and help you improve, but when that’s mixed with his prickly personal style and your own sense of self-doubt, it can create a vicious cycle where you feel truly incapable of success.

I could probably do an entire column on impostor syndrome, but for now, let’s just think about how it might be applicable to you. When you’re just starting out in the workforce, a certain degree of humility can be beneficial: You’re new! You’re eager to learn! You’re going to make mistakes, but by golly, you’ll learn from ’em! Traits like that can help launch your career, but after a certain point you have to stop seeing yourself as “the person whose inadequacy is tolerated.” In your case, you got promoted after a few years on the job and your boss doesn’t exactly seem like the type to tolerate poor performance, so clearly you have to be doing something right. The time has come for you to trust your own competence and learn to ignore criticism that isn’t actually helping you improve.

I’m glad you included the parenthetical about your field, because while a lot of what I’m saying is broadly applicable, I think there’s something especially tricky about negotiating negative feedback in a writing/editing context. As a writer, I’ve experienced the horrible whiplash between “yay, my piece is finished!” and “nobody likes my piece.” As an editor, I’ve inflicted that sad deflation upon others, saying things like “I’m not sure why, but I hate this.” You’re absolutely right that it’s part of the gig, but so is having a thick skin.

I’ve gotten to the point where I can hear “this sentence is terrible” and calmly respond with “how do you think we can fix it?” I don’t even feel a pang in my gut accompanied by a rush of cold fear that I’ll never amount to anything—at least not most of the time, not anymore. And for a while before that, I just faked my chill until it actually became real. It’s not easy to cultivate that sense of detachment, but if you can do it, it’s incredibly freeing.

To answer your question more directly, I think you could definitely benefit from a performance evaluation so that your work can be assessed in a big-picture sense. Minor errors might seem like a big deal, and might get a big emotional reaction from your boss, but what’s really important is how you’re doing in the day-to-day. That said, asking your manager to be more vocal in giving props may or may not be productive—it sounds like it’s not really his style, so you’ll have to decide whether you’ll be more bothered by the lack of praise after specifically asking for it. One way or another, though, a review discussion should give you the chance to finally hear “you’re doing well,” and hopefully you can let that knowledge buoy you through the tantrum times.

It’s also worth noting that you don’t have to stick it out indefinitely in an environment where explosive rage is the norm. While you’re there you might as well treat it like bootcamp, where you can learn to inoculate yourself against taking things too personally, but you might also consider following in your former coworkers’ footsteps and developing an exit strategy of your own. After all, if you’re managing to thrive under Cranky McTantrumpants, just think of what you might accomplish with a boss who threw you the occasional compliment.

—Businesslady

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Dear Businesslady,

My supervisor is kind of a perfectionist control-freak who, I’m beginning to suspect, doesn’t trust me. But she doesn’t provide me with a lot of oversight. Early in my job, I would send her messages (we only communicate via chat programs) asking for clarification/help, and she got extremely tense and finally just told me to email her all my problems in one big dump at the end of each project. This has not been a very effective tool, because it means I often don’t realise I’m making errors until they’re caught, either by the client or by my supervisor. When this happens, she stresses out and levels a lot of passive-aggressive comments in my direction (“I just trusted you to get this right the first time” and so on). She has expressed to me in the past that she is always stressed and over-worked, but when I offer to take some tasks off her hand, she resists. Occasionally, she will send me a project, but when I ask for direction (usually because the project she sends me will be something I have little-to-no experience in doing and I don’t want to make mistakes) she will simply say it’s too complicated for her to explain and revoke the project.

I don’t know what to do. I’m frustrated and discouraged. I feel like I’m not doing good work, just because of a handful of (easily fixable) mistakes or because I’m not getting everything perfect the first time. I really enjoy working for this company otherwise, but my supervisor is just stressing me out.

–Stressed and Making Mistakes

Dear SaMM,

For good or for ill, your situation is a lot more straightforward than the one in the first letter. Instead of a mercurial personality crossed with an editorial sensibility, you’re dealing with a classic workplace villain: the manager who won’t manage.

And look, I get it: it is often far more time-consuming to walk someone through a new process than it would be to just do the thing yourself, and it’s frustrating to encounter mistakes that you know you wouldn’t have made. But if you want to live in a world where things only get done in the exact way you’d personally do them, you shouldn’t have employees. Training, delegating, and learning to be flexible with different approaches are all crucial aspects of management.

In short, your boss is kind of a pain in the ass and it’s unlikely that you’ll be able to change her fundamental inability to be a good manager. As always, that puts “so find a new job” on the table as one potential solution—but since you otherwise like your position I’ll try to help you figure out how to work around her shortcomings.

For your boss, the world is apparently a constant tornado of stress and overlapping priorities, so you want to make it as easy as possible for her to give you the guidance you need. I can see how instant messaging could be a bad fit for someone with that temperament (the interrupting sound cues, the sense that questions are piling up in the chat window until you’re able to respond), so I’m going to seize on her “email-dump all problems at the end of a project” suggestion and tweak it to be more useful for you both.

The next time you get an assignment, spend a little while thinking through your process for completing it. Make note of anything that you’re confused about—on a continuum between “slightly uncertain” and “completely lost.” (This counts as work time, by the way, so you should include it when tallying your hours.) After you’ve developed a plan, email your boss with questions. Only don’t call them questions per se—questions stress her out, right? Instead, say something like “Boss, here’s how I’ll be approaching the XYZ assignment. There are a couple things I’d like you to weigh in on—such as [thing you’re unsure about A, thing you’re unsure about B]—so when you have the chance, please let me know if you’d like me to handle things differently.”

Then you summarize the work you’ll be doing as briefly as possible. Wherever you’re feeling stuck, offer what you think is the best potential solution, but remind her that her input would be helpful. For example: “I’m worried that the shipping turnaround is tight, but FedEx two-day should get things there in time—unless you’d prefer to use three-day shipping to save money and try to expedite production from the manufacturer? We’ve handled this in different ways for our past three clients, so if you have a preference in this case, please let me know.” And repeat.

Once you’ve sent this missive out into the ether, begin working as usual. I’m not super optimistic that you’ll get an immediate response, but at least she’ll have your write-up, and whenever you really need to consult her, you can follow up in the same thread (or send her an IM referencing the email, whichever you think would be more effective). Something like, “Hey, I’m getting ready to place the ABC order. We should just use the usual manufacturing turnaround plus two-day shipping, right?” If you anticipate a sending a few queries in quick succession, batch them into one email so she doesn’t feel overwhelmed. And if you’re pretty sure you know what needs to be done, just say “I’m doing this (unless you tell me otherwise).” If she gets mad later about how you were wrong, you can point out that she had the opportunity to correct you and didn’t take it.

I’m not going to pretend that this will magically repair your dynamic—in all likelihood she’s still going to be stressy and unhelpful, and you’re still going to find yourself blundering into problems due to her lack of direction. But I suspect it will help.

Additionally, while there may be reasons why chat/email are the best ways for you to communicate, I’d suggest trying to introduce a weekly or monthly phone call/Skype conversation between the two of you. She’ll probably protest that she’s too busy, but sometimes Typing an Email or Answering a Chat feels like a whole thing in a way that verbally addressing a series of questions doesn’t. Additionally, talking voice-to-voice will give her an opportunity to interrupt if she’s confused by the way you’re laying out a particular problem (a benefit that text-based venues don’t offer), and you’ll be able to detect from her tone whether or not she’s starting to lose patience with whatever you’re trying to discuss. Again, it won’t make things perfect, but it could help nudge your relationship into one that’s more functional and less stress-inducing for you.

By way of conclusion, let me just reiterate my advice to LW1: don’t take shit like this too personally. If your manager can’t be bothered to give you clear instructions on how to do your job, then miscommunications and mistakes are going to be a regular consequence. That’s not your fault, and if you start feeling like it is, then maybe it’s time to move on after all.

—Businesslady

Businesslady is in her early 30s and somehow managed to find a rewarding career despite her allegedly useless degree in the humanities. Her job history includes everything from food service to retail to corporate nonsense, but she currently does writing and editing for a nonprofit, and devotes the rest of her life to playing video games, patronizing bars, and spending way too much time on the internet.

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Oh my god, LW2 gave me flashbacks to my last job in at least three different ways, and I have to say that it just never ever got better, even with face-to-face communications and stacking up questions either at the beginning or end of a project. By the end of my time there, I was so tired and stressed and burned out and flat-out discouraged that I probably would have quit even if I hadn't gotten a job offer when I did.

LW2, I hope against hope that you're able to find a middle ground with your boss, honestly. But please don't let yourself get beaten up and undermined, either. If your boss is taking work away from you, not allowing you to help when you ask to, (in my case and I suspect in yours, though you didn't mention it specifically) re-doing work that you've completed, etc, it probably isn't going to stop--that is how she operates, that is how she maintains her grip, and it does not sound at all like a healthy workplace for you.

Good luck and Godspeed.
How does one learn how to be a good manager/supervisor?

Like are there courses? Books? Is it sink or swim?
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Allison Green from Ask A Manager has a bunch of resource material on her site; I'd imagine there are others, especially for more corporate structures. A lot of those more corporate office places also have training programs for management, which I'd imagine helps a lot.
It would probably be fair to say that I'm in an idiosyncratic organization which has not always thoughtfully taught people how to manage. I really appreciate the AAM recommendation.
If you like AAM and you happen to work for a nonprofit (although even if you don't really), Allison Green co-authored a book called Managing to Change the World for nonprofit managers that I have found extremely helpful.
There are definitely courses and books that one can use to improve management skills, for sure. In general, the best supervisors and managers I've worked with have come up through the ranks themselves instead of being educated into it, though, and never let themselves forget being the underling.
That's helpful, thanks. I'm going to reflect on some of my past experiences of being managed.
Wow, I have a lot of thoughts about this, but I would sum it up as: be a good human.

Did you fail to make a deadline/ protocol/ whatever clear to your employee? Don't yell at them. Did they come up with a good idea? Praise them and give them credit for it. Do they do something differently than you would have? Assess whether it (A) gets the job done anyway, or (B) actually works better before making them do it differently. Take their perspective. What would you need to know in order to do their job well? Don't be lazy: if they need instruction, tools, access to something, give it to them, even if it's a pain in the butt.

I don't know, it really isn't that hard, which is why I'm always astounded by how shitty people are at it. (Granted, I manage a team remotely, so I don't have to deal with some of the things that an onsite manager might, and I don't have a lot of pressure from above that might regularly force me into doing shitty things I otherwise might not.)

Just be responsible about your side of the job and don't be a dick, basically.
I think you've named some crucial pieces about how expectations and resourcing and thinking from the other person's perspective can help.

Thank you!
This. My current manager does a great job of managing, mostly because she does these things. Probably my favorite part about her as a manager is that she genuinely wants her employees to get better at their jobs, so she tries to be really conscientious about finding learning opportunities or teaching new skills or whatever. Making sure your employees receive adequate training so they can become more self-sufficient is crucial, and it sounds like LW2's boss is completely failing at that.
I had a mentor who laid it out pretty simply: she watched how her (not very great) boss handled situations, then wrote in her journal 1) why her boss handled it badly, and 2) how she thinks the situation should have been handled. Not a *great* way to learn, but if you're stuck in a position for a while...
Yes, watching how people you admire and don't admire do things, and really analysing the content and structure of their response, is extremely helpful.
I really value the work of Bob Sutton, who wrote "The No Asshole Rule" and "Good Boss Bad Boss" on this topic - also Michael Lopp's "Managing Humans" is tech oriented but a lot is universally applicable. There are a lot of bad books out there, with handwavy advice like "be authentic" - which, really poor idea in many cases! You will often need to feign enthusiasm for things you feel no enthusiasm for, for example.
Oh, thanks for the book rec, my library has the Sutton books, and I've put them on hold!

(hooray for libraries and online catalogues)
I also just put Good Boss Bad Boss on hold!
Bob Sutton's blog is also really great - it goes through dry spells, but I've enjoyed digging back through the archives. Plus, he's quite funny!
i have found the book "people styles at work" to be useful, not specifically for managing, but for figuring out how to get what you want out of work relationships.
Thank you for the book rec!
I'm also interested in hearing an answer to this. BUSINESSLADY HALP!
It is definitely NOT sink or swim. I teach management courses, and I think the number one thing is to not think of it as "something youre just naturally good/bad at", but something you can actively learn to do and improve on! So asking the question is definitely a good start. :-)
Learning how to manage people is actually a rather decently-sized component of my master's in social work administration curriculum. I had to write a whole paper about incorporating diversity into hiring and retention policies.
Just curious how graduate degrees that involve management (like you MSW and also thinking of MBAs) give practical experience, if at all. You're the most junior person in the room when you intern, and managing your peers is very different from managing down (or up), so is there some other way of getting a chance to try out the management theory?

Of course, in naming the fields above, I thought about including MDs and JDs and PhDs in at least the lab sciences, all of whom are expected to go on to lead teams of various kinds, often from right out of school, and I'm not aware of any management training whatsoever in those fields either.
I can't speak for every MSW intern, but my practicum has given me the opportunity to manage/coordinate volunteers and other, more junior interns, so that helps somewhat.
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praemunire · 484 weeks ago

Stopping to think through potential issues at the start of a project may also have the advantage of helping you realize what you really do already know or can figure out by yourself. I admit, as a manager I used to get annoyed by people who asked a million questions at the start of projects when 80% of them they could have resolved on their own. In some challenging work environments (especially ones that involve different hourly billables for people at different levels of seniority), you really do need to see how far you can get on your own first. This person may or may not be able to handle the 20%, either, but if you can cut down on what you are asking, it just might help.
LW2, I have also worked for this woman and you have my entire sympathy. Are there other people to whom you can bring your questions? I learned pretty quickly that I would not get the help I wanted from my supervisor, but there were other people in my department and company who were great and willing to help. I made good working relationships with these other people which helped get me promoted and moved out from under her direct supervision within two years.

I was with the company for over six years and this supervisor never changed her ways. She was a hard worker herself and made a good impression on her superiors, but her inability to trust her staff to do their jobs, coupled with her lack of desire to actually train them properly, drove several good people away from our department and company. If you can find a way to move within this company and away from her supervision, this may be your best bet.
Beachlass - serious answer, the Ask a Manager blog. She might have some 'basics' somewhere you could start with, but honestly just keeping an eye on how she approaches problems and what the manager's job is or should be in a particular situation, has been hugely helpful. Managing as a skill you can practice and improve at is a super helpful mindset, as is the simple (but groundbreaking for me) realization that in addition to stressing me out or being a pain, my supervisor might in fact...not be managing me well. Maybe they really *aren't* giving me clear goals or promoting my independence or whatever, it's not solely that I'm doing a bad job meeting my goals. It actually helps me a lot to thing of supervisors as co-workers in a real sense, where their job is Manage You So You Can Do Your Job and your job is Do Your Job.
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And yeah, it can be basically sink-or-swim in that they may throw you in with no training at all (more common in some fields than others)...but again, that's a probably not very good supervision decision that somebody made
Thanks - I do read AAM semi-regularly; and somehow hadn't connected "I like reading this blog" to "My boss is making noises about me learning to supervise".

So I will start reading with more intention and regularity!
The good news is he’s basically throwing tantrums, and tantrums are not to be taken seriously. If you offer a toddler a cookie, and they throw it on the ground and say “I hate you,” the correct response is not to begin doubting your relationship with said toddler and your own capacity for cookie selection.

Man, it would have helped a lot to hear this in my first job out of college. I just had no idea how to distance myself from this kind of episode at all, and it sucked. Did not do wonders for my confidence about my career.
LW2 - I have worked for this person!! For a couple of years, I made it my goal to learn EXACTLY how she wanted everything done, and try to give it to her on a silver platter. But she STILL found fault. What I eventually figured out was that she felt like she had to put her personal "stamp" on the work. So even if I did EXACTLY what she had told me to do last time, she would find something to tweak. AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. Coupled with that, I had to learn how to ask questions. Whenever I said "I should do XYZ [unsaid: exactly what we did last time], right?" She would start into a whole Socratic inquiry about it... when all I wanted was "yep." So, all the stuff Businesslady said about how to frame your questions - that may seem like semantics, but it's important. When I got a chance to transfer, I deliberately changed my style from "I should do X, right?" to "I plan to do X for these reasons." New boss loved it.
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diaryofamadeditor · 484 weeks ago

My mom had a rule that she learned from one of her bosses & applied it to when my brother & I argued. Don't bring me problems, bring me 3 solutions and we'll come up with the best one together. I really take that with me. In stead of asking for help all the time--or, screwing up because you're afraid to ask for help--it gives the employee agency over their own work AND gives the boss control over the outcome.
LW1 here. Thanks so much! I did actually have a sit-down with my boss since I wrote that letter. I got the feedback that I needed, which was, "I'm pushing you to do your best, but overall you're doing okay."
I'm also going to put the toddler comparison in my mental toolbox, too.
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I've worked for many bosses who did not have their tantrums in check and if you have a boss that you generally get along with, but who has the need to blow off steam in the most obnoxious way possible, the best course of action is to ignore the bad behavior. Don't try to smooth things over, don't try to calm him down, just let him vent and do what he needs to. Most stop with the tantrum if they've a) blown off enough steam or b) realize that nobody is reacting/paying attention. I've been on the receiving end of many tantrums (working as an admin assistant), and most weren't about me, but just because boss needed somebody to scream at and I was conveniently close.

That being said: You don't have to deal with him yelling at you and getting personal or putting you down (in case he does this). You are fully in your right to say "please don't speak to me like that" or "I'll be back in 30 min, when you've calmed down" or listen to the yelling, go away and calm yourself down, and then talk to him when he's cooled off and become nice boss again, saying that that wasn't cool and that next time you'll walk away if he starts up again.

Good luck and congrats on the good feedback!!
It's been a couple of days- but I just wanted to say that I have been struggling with very similar issues all fall. We had a new boss starting in September and he has crazy mood swings and swings wildly between micro managing and leaving me alone. (Fortunately he hasn't been really angry with me- but we share an office and I've had to witness/listen too all sorts of angry outbursts.) Quite frankly it's been exhausting and upsetting.

However, coming back after the break I've made a concerted effort to remind myself that it isn't about me- that it's his problem - and to speak up when something crosses the line. It's resulted in many fewer bathroom panic attacks. Good luck!
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diaryofamadeditor · 484 weeks ago

"I think there’s something especially tricky about negotiating negative feedback in a writing/editing context. As a writer, I’ve experienced the horrible whiplash between “yay, my piece is finished!” and “nobody likes my piece.” As an editor, I’ve inflicted that sad deflation upon others, saying things like “I’m not sure why, but I hate this.” You’re absolutely right that it’s part of the gig, but so is having a thick skin."

^^YUP^^

Also: There are editors who treat the newsroom like an old school locker room in a football movie or like bootcamp, and for some people, that's really motivating. For others, it's soul crushing. I don't think drawing attention to the worst brings out the best. On the other hand, I find praise a little cloying. Bless him, but I once worked for a boss who was super into praise and I legit couldn't handle it--I just felt embarrassed all the time. I've also had thick skin my whole life, and forget that not everyone does.
I'm just here to say that I consistently find the Businesslady's advice to be thoughtful and useful, and I'm so pleased that The Toast runs it. Thanks, Toast!
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Aw, shucks. Thank YOU!!

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