The Stages of Accepting That Go Ask Alice Wasn’t Real -The Toast

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Oh my God. This was made up? This was MADE UP? I thought this was a real girl. I THOUGHT THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ME. I thought this was real?

Okay, but how made up was this? “Edited” made up or “fiction” made up?

HER NAME WASN’T EVEN ALICE?

I think I heard about this once, maybe. I think maybe I heard about this a while back, but it just got absorbed into my consciousness through some sort of awareness osmosis. I didn’t learn and understand what it meant.

Did everyone else know about this? Why wasn’t there a huge story, when this came out? Why wasn’t this a Shattered Glass-style scandal?

“It’s a good thing most people bleed on the inside or this would be a gory, blood-smeared earth.” I can’t believe that girl isn’t dead. I can’t believe she wasn’t even real. The ending was so scary. She died, but she isn’t even dead.

Oh my God, does this mean that LSD doesn’t stay in your spinal fluid for years, just waiting for the chance to seep out and suddenly send your staid, respectable 42-year-old self tripping into a poison Candyland? Was that a lie?

Oh my God, there’s a list of list of misconceptions about illegal drugs on Wikipedia. I mean, of course there is, but thank God.

Was The Face on the Milk Carton fiction?

WHY WOULD SHE LIE ABOUT THIS I THOUGHT IT WAS REAL, I WAS SO SCARED THE FIRST TIME I SMOKED WEED. I was cold to so many cool girls with bicep tattoos because I was afraid of being seduced into a life of topless heroin bartending. I could have had more cool friends with bicep tattoos.

They made Go Ask Alice into a movie?

I have to see this movie.

More like Go Ask Alice Why She’s Such A Liar, BEATRICE.

Has everyone done cocaine but me? Is anyone else lying about using cocaine because some people act like it’s super normal to have done it a bunch? It’s not that normal, right?

Regina Morrow tried cocaine and she died. That happens. That’s real. It doesn’t happen a lot, but it happens to some people.

[Reads entire list of misconceptions] Oh my God, I don’t know anything about drugs. Literally everyone is stuffing their faces full of drugs all the time and I’ve never noticed. Is someone near me on drugs right now? How would I even know? I don’t know anything about drugs.

Paul F. Tompkins did a whole standup routine about how fake this book is. Everyone in the whole world knew before I did. Everyone else in the world knew and they’re doing cocaine and I don’t even know it and they’re laughing at me.

It’s way too late to do more drugs now. That ship has sailed.

I’m so glad those kids weren’t real. They were horrible. They kept slipping not-Alice LSD when she wasn’t looking in her soda and her peanut butter sandwiches and I was so scared of them and now there’s nothing to be scared of anymore.

She wrote other fake journals? How could she get away with this? Why isn’t she…sued, or in jail, or something?

I have to read these other fake journals.

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Here is the Paul F. Tompkins routine in question, which I was listening to just yesterday. "Freak wharf!" has, of course, joined our household lexicon, as a term of affection.
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This is basically me. This is me. Everyone else actually has been doing cool things, but now I am 27 and it is Too Late to be That Person.

Everybody knew the whole time, and had cool tattoos. and I slide in the door with a party hat like HEEEEEYYYY and everyone is asleep.
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Alice being fake was briefly traumatizing for me, however Beatrice Sparks is fascinating. she was a counseling psychologist with sketchy/nonexistant credentials. one of her other fake diary novels was called "It Happened to Nancy" and it was about a girl who goes to a Garth Brooks concert and has an asthma attack which leads her to getting raped and contracting HIV. what the fuck, B? she seems like the type of person who would both lead witch hunts in New England and executive direct crisis pregnancy centers, respective of era.
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I definitely thought that LSD spinal retention thing was true until just now.
Wait, if you have asthma, you can't go to concerts? Did she just hate Garth Brooks? What is the MORAL of that cautionary tale?
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Perhaps this is a good time to admit my own lies. I haven't read Go Ask Alice at all. I've been pretending for years. The closest I ever got was writing the lyrics to Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" in my super embarrassing sophomore poetry notebook.

I've also never read Lord of the Flies, Jane Eyre, or Brave New World. I was lying about that, too.
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"Sybil" is also largely fiction.
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bustedsneakers · 601 weeks ago

Don't accept any fungus-based teas from no shady Druids at the henging is all we're saying okay.
I gotta say. Go Ask Alice may be fake, and I knew that when I first read it, but I still found it super traumatizing. Actually, you know that morphine withdrawal section in To Kill a Mockingbird? That was my first drugs-in-books trauma. I can't read or watch movies or tv or anything about people on drugs and not being in full control of their faculties because omg panic attack. (Somehow, though, LSD doesn't trigger that response?)

This is why I never do drugs. DARE also helped with the omgno trauma as a child. That and being on strong anti-anxiety meds as a teenager that basically made me feel drunk (Clonopin whoooo), and Effexor withdrawal that made me crawl on the floor because I couldn't stand up because I hadn't taken my pill that morning and I wasn't sure if my body knew how to support itself while standing. (I don't much like to get drunk, also.)

Weirdly enough, I've seen the entire Tulsa series by Larry Clark of young adults 1963-1971 doing amphetamines in Oklahoma and whatnot, and it's pretty graphic and dark and grim and shit, but mostly I was just struck by how beautiful and human it is. I'd think it'd send me into nightmares also! It's not even THAT sanitized (this is why it was so shocking in 1973).
Ugh, all of my friends were out in our twenties having crazy adventures with drugs and boys and rock and roll while I was, I don't know, at home listening to Court and Spark and watching Labyrinth. And now I am 31 and it's much to late to go through an indulgent drugs and bad decisions phase, and I feel left out, damn it.

I'm a born square, I guess.
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Um, am I the only one that thought we were talking about the advice column on Columbia U's website?
http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/
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I had to watch the movie in high school. IN ENGLISH CLASS. Precious Book Time was taken up with watching a bunch of too-old looking teens have tons of sex on hideous 70s furniture and use tons of slang (rebels!!)--

And then William Shatner appears.
I just couldn't figure out why Alice's friends were wasting all of their LSD by "slipping it" to her.
REGINA MORROW. Talk about formative deaths in the history of literature. It was extra sad because she'd had that surgery to make her not-deaf and she made my Actual Favorite SVH Character Not Joking, Bruce Patman, way more bearable for a while. Sweet Valley was always killing off good characters; I'm still mad about Olivia the newspaperwoman.
"Was The Face on the Milk Carton fiction?" Bahahahahahaha.
I first read the book when I was ten. My takeaway was, "Drugs make you thin - gotta find me some drugs." Also, I really wanted to smell the jello three houses away - that seemed like a a really cool superpower!
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Ren Jender · 601 weeks ago

I first read the book when I was 13, when everything about the adult (even "young adult") world seems fake, so I don't think I ever gave the matter much thought. Years later I saw that the book even has some homophobia to go with its anti-drug hysteria, when Alice, as a runaway, catches her boyfriend in bed with another guy (at least I think that's from "Go Ask Alice". Am I wrong?) She's not exactly all hippie "love is love" about it. Also for the record I've never tried cocaine, but that's because I am a big weirdo.
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I also never read this because I was a people-pleasing nerd who would never have thought of trying drugs (also my parents would have killed me, dug up my body, and killed me again if they found out). Mostly I don't regret not having a crazy rebellious teenage phase- it was what it was- but I have to say as a mostly responsible adult I now have a real hankering to try weed at least once. (In a safe, controlled environment where I won't be arrested for doing so.)
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Mallory let's hang out and do drugs. They get better with age.
Mallory go do a bunch of drugs right now so you can come back with hilariously strident but wrong opinions about which ones suck.
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Roots is pretty much fictional too, did you know that? But it feels true.
I've never even see cocaine in real life even though I lived in Montreal! Montreal is run on cocaine isn't it? (Sorry Montreal jk jk jk about your lovely non-drug filled non-corrupt city)

I'm like the most sheltered person. Is how I feel about drugs.
I work in a bookstore and the other day a 13-ish looking girl came in asking for it. Not only did I have to break it to her that we didn't have it, I had to a) bite my lip so hard to try and not tell her it was fake and b) bite it again when she came back asking where "other books by Anonymous" would be shelved. Also, I was surprised it is still A Thing with the Youths!
I DIVED HAPPILY INTO THIS COMMENT THREAD EXPECTING JUICY DRUG USE CONFESSIONS

I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED
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I JUST GOT HERE AND WHAT

My juicy drug confessions: one time I was at Osheaga and this girl I didn't know who was there alone offered me some weed, and declined. I was like 24. The end, that is the history of my non-drug use. Oh ALSO I just found out what the fuck "molly" is like two weeks ago, and stop fucking calling it that guys.
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I lived in Santa Cruz for 4 years and then attended a graduate writing program, yet I'm entirely drug free. (Makes ya wonder what makes my brain / impulses so different from my siblings.) (Probably I read GAA and they didn't.) (Mom, are you reading this comment? Do you love me best? Validate me, Mom!)

I'm so blase about peer pressure ("just say no! no one ever minded if I said no!") ("Sure, we went caving all the time! Then they'd find the mushrooms and I'd guide us home!") and yet... I think self-selecting as an introvert who will just stay home and read means the real pressure-y peers weren't on my horizon. ("Did you invite Mel?" "Uh, no. Am I supposed to? Would she... like to come?")
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annejumps · 601 weeks ago

I'm a big square who at 34 just had pot cookies for the first time in January (or not at all since that is illegal in my state!) and it was the greatest thing ever, even though it gave me a headache
Should I even mention Michelle Remembers? Does anybody even remember Michelle Remembers?

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