“Are You Angry With Me?”: Dating as an Autistic Woman -The Toast

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Romeo_and_Juliet_(detail)_by_Frank_Dicksee“I have to tell you something about myself, something important,” I said to my boyfriend. We were lying on a bed in a University dorm, a girl and boy who at nineteen were taking our first tentative steps into the world of relationships.

“You can tell me anything,” he said.

“There’s something wrong with me,” I said. “I mean, socially. I mean, I’m autistic. Well, on the autistic spectrum, and it sometimes makes me seem weird, or socially awkward, and it’s difficult for me to get things — you know, body language things.”

He paused, then broke into a smile. “You’re silly,” he said. “There’s nothing wrong with you that most people don’t have. Sure, you’re a little socially awkward, but you know what, that’s adorable.”

I let it go. I could have pursued it, could have explained how difficult school had been: how I’d gone to see lots of educational psychologists before finally being sent down to London to see Francesca Happe, a specialist in autism, who — after one hour of tests, which seemed like games at the time — diagnosed me with Non-Verbal Learning Disorder, a form of autism. It meant that while I was bright, and loved reading and chatting, I struggled desperately to read social signals. The language of the body, that which makes up an estimated 60% of communication, was almost closed to me. So instead I fell back on words — the safety of which I could understand, as their clarity left nothing to puzzle over or decipher.

In the years between twelve and nineteen, I had taught myself a lot — forcing myself to go out and read faces as you would a foreign script, learning to figure out certain movements and postures. But it did not come naturally to me, as it does for most people. Still, as a nineteen-year-old, newly at University, I could for the first time in my life “pass” for normal, or neurotypical. I felt a bit like a fraud, but it was also exciting to move among my peers and feel, for the first time, fully accepted as one of them. Sometimes I feared the mask would slip, that I would be discovered, but I seldom was — although sometimes in conversation, someone would develop a puzzled look on their face.

My boyfriend called me “adorably awkward,” but in earlier years at school, my awkwardness had never been adorable. I had just been weird, in a “she’s really bloody strange, we better keep away from her” way, more Stephen King’s Carrie than Carrie Bradshaw. When I was thirteen, I pissed in a crisp packet and then held it out to some girls who bullied me at school break time, waiting for them to put their hands in to try to get my crisps. I am not proud of this, but I tell you because as an autistic thirteen-year-old it seemed an appropriate way of dealing with people being mean and calling me weird. This of course did absolutely nothing to stop people from calling me weird, but at the time I couldn’t see how inappropriate my behaviour was. For a couple of months, I was sent to a special residential school for kids with behavioural problems, which was terrifying for all sorts of reasons I won’t go into here, and completely wrong for me.

This story perhaps illustrates how far I had come since the age of thirteen, and why it was easy to lie to myself at University — to say that I wasn’t really autistic anymore, or that by learning about social graces I had somehow “got over it” or “got past it.” I was a nineteen-year-old with long blonde hair, doing a degree in English Literature and living away from my parents in University flats. I wanted to keep my other side secret, or at least attempt to play it down.

It’s still difficult to tell someone who sees you as normal that you are autistic. There’s a feeling of coming out, of revealing something. And then to have that person turn round and say you aren’t autistic — well, that’s difficult, too. I’d like to say that my boyfriend’s words upset me, but it’s more complicated than that: I was both hurt by his disbelief, and strangely thrilled. “Adorably awkward,” I thought, beginning to embrace this new, if inaccurate, diagnosis, given by a boy who wanted me to be normal as much as I did. Here he held out a chance to rewrite my past, to eradicate all the fucking awful weird things I had done, and to become something else — a quirky awkward girl who was adorable. Hell, maybe I could even start wearing a beanie.

The relationship was to disintegrate months later, with him shouting: “Why do you not get it, why can you not see when I am getting angry and need to be alone?” and me in tears saying, “Sorry, I didn’t know, I just didn’t know.” “How the hell can you not know someone is getting angry?” he demanded.

I had given him the answer months earlier, but he had chosen not to accept it.

This experience was not a one-off. Through my early twenties I found that many guys would hone in on my “cute eccentricity,” my “beautiful weirdness,” and, yes, my “adorable awkwardness.” Autism didn’t come into it for them — I was not what people imagined when they heard the word. I didn’t rock in anxiety, I didn’t speak in a monotone, I laughed and danced and engaged with people, showing interest in their work and passions. Here the common misconceptions about autism were both my ally and my enemy: they allowed me to hide, and to embrace a status as “off-key yet normal,” but they also damaged me by giving fuel to the lie that I was just a bit odd, making it all the more difficult when it blew up in my face with someone yelling: “What the hell is wrong with you?”

I met Francesca Happe again a few years ago at The British Library, where we had coffee. I was working with Graeae, a theatre company with an aesthetic of disability, and I was interested in creating a play about what it meant to be in the borderland of autism — peripheral to the nucleus of autism, but nevertheless close enough to be affected. “You’re a pretty girl,” she told me, “and that may mean you have a different experience.”

This fits in with the difficulty girls face in being diagnosed with autism initially, and is perhaps a continuation of this denial — of the view of autism as something somehow male. Young men are believed when they say they are autistic; young women are not, and are instead encouraged to embrace the role of a lovely eccentric, decorative and quirky rather than “disordered.”

Francesca then told me something else: “When you were a child and first came to me, you could pick up some social signals, but the one you didn’t understand — couldn’t begin to understand — was anger.” Even then, the series of faces and postures I struggled with was someone getting angry — I just didn’t get it. Rather than causing complete oblivion to anger, this created anxiety for me: “Are you angry with me now?” I would ask repeatedly. As neurotypical folk can probably imagine, there is something rather scary about not being able to identify facial expressions, especially one as important as anger, and not being able to could easily lead one to a state of permanent anxiety.

Hearing this from Francesca was a relief; I realised it was something I knew but had denied for years, in favour of adopting the socially acceptable quirky image — think Zooey Deschanel as Jess in New Girl — a mould which was a fairly good fit at times, even if it was also false. It was easier for people my age, particularly men, to see my weirdness as a trope, as opposed to a complex neurological condition. For years I was guilty of going along with this.

My current boyfriend understands that I can’t read body language all the time; that if he is annoyed he must state it verbally and calmly; and that clattering resentfully around a messy kitchen, say, will not pass on the message that it is my turn to clean, but simply asking me for help will. Also, he must tolerate my asking if he is angry when he is not. We still argue, and sometimes he does get mad at me. But when he says, “How did you not know I was feeling that?” I have an answer.

Hope Whitmore is an Edinburgh based writer in her twenties. She loves longform journalism, to read something amazing and true makes her heart beat quicker, and suddenly she becomes excited about all the possibilities of life as a writer and begins to yearn to go out and find stories. She likes looking at community notice boards (actual ones, outside churches and village halls) and talking to random people.

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carolynprobably · 533 weeks ago

I really enjoyed this perspective. Thank you for sharing.
I liked this. Also, I don't wanna invalidate that autism makes this more difficult for you, but I think "if he is annoyed he must state it verbally and calmly; and that clattering resentfully around a messy kitchen, say, will not pass on the message that it is my turn to clean, but simply asking me for help will" is a better communication goal for EVERYONE! A plus man training, keep it up
if he is annoyed he must state it verbally and calmly; and that clattering resentfully around a messy kitchen, say, will not pass on the message that it is my turn to clean, but simply asking me for help will

This seems like a good policy for any relationship, regardless of neurological conditions.
This was so, so good.

I've never consciously thought of autism as being male, but now I can't think of one depiction of an autistic girl or woman in tv, books, etc, but I can think of lots of guys. "young women are not, and are instead encouraged to embrace the role of a lovely eccentric, decorative and quirky rather than “disordered.”" That is going to stick with me.
20 replies · active 504 weeks ago
Ugh, I want to reach through time and box that college boyfriend's ears. Casually hand-waving away as "cute" what follows after "I have something important to tell you"--that is an undercover jerk move if I ever saw one.
2 replies · active 533 weeks ago
Hey sister! Spectrum girl erasure is such a pain. It's definitely true that if you're a conventionally pretty girl people just assume that you have awesome social skills and make excuses for your weird behavior. It's as if people actually consider conventional attractiveness to *be* a social skill, and if you've got that figured out you must be in possession of ninja level talent across the rest of the social skillset as well. I feel like my whole life I have been inadvertently sending signals that people interpreted in ways I couldn't understand or control, and it's only as I've become an adult that I've realized that was what was happening.
3 replies · active 533 weeks ago
Thanks for this excellent post.
It would be nice to see more examples in the media of any autistic characters, especially women. With the caveat that I am neurotypical, I think it would be cool if some characters continued to be quirky and lovable while also 1) being labeled as autistic and 2) actually having to deal with the complexities of a neurological condition. I can't think of any characters that fit the Jess description while being explicitly associated with autism or any neurological atypicality. So many characters-- Zooey's sister Emily on Bones comes to mind-- have this sort of secret-subtext- autism status.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective.
Thank you for this wonderfully written piece.
Thank you! This was beautiful and painful and warming and frustrating, I hope you write more here!
Thank you so much everyone for the lovely comments. The college boyfriend is actually one of my closest friends now and has since apologised for misunderstanding me, we were very young and I think it was something he couldn't grasp at that time. x
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Loony_Lovegood · 533 weeks ago

As a budding speech-language pathologist (I'm a clinical fellow--still working on my license!), I really appreciated this. I work with little munchkins, nobody your age, but I totally know what you mean about the assumed "maleness" of autism. Thanks so much for sharing! =)
Aaaah I was thinking over these last weeks of how little I'd seen any writing from spectrum womens' perspectives!!! I had thought about asking the women I knew about interviews and dialogues and the like, but it always felt like it would be better to just have someone directly writing about themselves. Marvelous!!!
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Today I learned what the NLD diagnosis I got at 11 actually means. I...always assumed it had something to do with my poor skills in math? After the initial assessment, it was not something my parents ever brought up again.

I am pretty fucking weird and do have trouble connecting with people, so. This is kind of relieving.

Aside from any personal revelations, this was also just well written and very interesting. Thank you :)
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I never cease to be amazed by the glut of wonderful writing and diverse perspectives on The Toast.

Thank you so much for sharing your story. It was moving and eye-opening, and echoing everyone else hoping that you continue to write here!
Thank you for this!

I'm always super grateful to read another woman's description of experiences on the spectrum, especially if it's not necessarily blindingly obvious. I identify SO MUCH with these descriptions, and it's like "oh, yes, that was my experience!" but the only dx I ever got was "well, it's not OCD enough to be OCD, and she's got serious sensory issues, but it's not a full integration disorder" when I was 8. I did have a couple therapists suggest ASD as being very fitting when I was in my early twenties, but by then my parents couldn't see any point in formal testing, and it was too expensive, so I don't know if I'll ever know for sure.

So yes, thanks for posting this and letting me realize that I'm not necessarily the incompetent weirdo I think I am. :)
Some other titles with female characters who are on the spectrum: How to Be Human: Diary of an Autistic Girl by Florida Frenz; My Name is Mina by David Almond; The Klaatu Diskos series by Pete Hautman.
As a girl who was diagnosed with NLD at 14 - thanks for writing this. It struck a huge chord, especially the fact that you have trouble identifying anger as well! When I was still living at home I would ask my mom like five times a day if she was angry with me. I was terribly awkward in high school (the crisp story rings so true, omg) but I learned how to manage a little better during college. Again, thank you!
Did any of those bitches fall for your pissy crisps ruse? I do hope so!
"It’s still difficult to tell someone who sees you as normal that you are autistic. There’s a feeling of coming out, of revealing something."

Yes. I've dealt with depression/anxiety/panic disorders since I was twelve (which have now been grouped together into a bipolar 2 diagnosis), but I'm a naturally very cheery person. When I have to tell people what's 'wrong' with me, it is always, always, terrifying and I am always certain I will lose them. I've always felt weird framing it as a "coming out," but that is exactly what it feels like.
What a great article. My boyfriend of the past three years has autism and it's taken a while for both of us to find a way of communicating that both fulfills me and is comfortable for him. I know firsthand how difficult those with autism have it in the wider world and both he and you are dealing with it admirably. Clearly stating how I feel is the only way we can really move forward day by day and honestly it's been the best relationship I've ever had!
I almost felt like crying on reading this.

I don't have autism, but I do have a lot of problems reading body language, and I try to ask people to explain what they're feeling or what they want and they just get more and more angry with me, and I end up losing people I care about.

That's what bothers me the most - the fact that other people just don't have consideration.
I am so glad that you wrote this. I’m almost crying right now.

I have never felt part of the autistic community because of my ability to pass as neurotypical. I try to keep up on autism activism, but so much of it feels so… distant. It’s all important, I never doubt that, but it’s hard to feel like MY voice will ever actually be heard because I have never found another autistic remotely like myself. Like not even a little bit. All of the autistics I’ve met online have been closer to the non-verbal area of the spectrum and flap their hands and things that I have just never struggled with. All of the autistics I’ve met in person have been autistic men who were assholes and creeps. (Not because they were autistic, but because they didn’t view women as people. And this “all” refers to like 3 people.)

So I’ve never felt particularly welcome in the autistic community. I don’t think they tried to do it, but it always felt like autistics who can pass weren’t really welcome, that my voice didn’t apply.

So much of this feels so familiar that it hurts to read, but I am so glad I’ve read it. I finally don’t feel alone as an autistic. It has been so painful feeling like the only person like myself before I knew I was autistic, then finding that none of my fellow autistics were like myself at all. Being caught between two worlds and not fitting into either feels like torture.

You are the first autistic to ever make me feel like I wasn't the only one.

Thank you.
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Wow, this really touched me!!! When I was about 10 or 11 my younger brother was diagnosed with autism. At the time of his diagnosis and doctor visits my dad said many times that the symptoms of autism sounded a lot like me, though I was never diagnosed; I made friends, I got good grades, and I seemed mostly well adjusted. No one knew what a struggle it was for me, that when I laughed at my friend who was crying it wasn't because I thought her pain was funny, it was because I didn't realize how unacceptable it was to express how funny I thought it looked. People didn't (and still don't) understand my awkward jokes, or my inability to understand jokes or innocent teasing. It's so hard to step outside of my box of social rules that I simply have to be very blunt with people and explain how hard things are for me to understand sometimes. I remember vividly the first time I was validated by a close friend who worked with people with autism that he always thought maybe I was on the spectrum - and it was oddly such a relief! Knowing other women who have gone through what I have is truly touching. Thank you!
Joining in on the solidarity. I was diagnosed Asperger's Syndrome, but my mother was supportive even before she knew why I had so much trouble reading people and socializing; my diagnosis was mostly because my little brother was diagnosed as high-functioning autism and Mom pushed to have me evaluated as well, since the description matched me to a lesser extent.

Because I'd had all that care and self-awareness, I could compensate. I remember a friend who had met me in college expressing skepticism that I was anything more than 'quirky' or 'a geek'. A mutual friend, who had known me in high school, chimed in that I was a lot better at social skills now and that if College Friend had met me in high school, she'd see how much I'd learned since then. My mother also noted that having a sister only a bit younger than me meant that I had someone to interact with even when I couldn't figure out how to initiate social contact. (My sister was also the sort of kid who loved having someone she could ask to play with her, so I think that worked out for both of us.)
This was a beautiful posting, and so valuable. We are in the process of helping our autistic child, and as I've started to learn what makes him the way he is, I've found myself very suddenly questioning where my wife's problems might come from; as people have told me about autism in girls and women and how it differs, I've learned maybe why we argue, why she doesn't understand me, why she spends her life so frustrated and angry, and why I find myself thinking "How the hell can you not know...?"

I have no idea where we're going, or what to do, but at least I understand a little better what is happening, and can try not to blame her, or me, when things go wrong. We are who we are, and have to work with what we are. It's us.
Thank you for a beautiful post that resonates so deeply for those of us caught between two worlds! I have a formal diagnosis that took years to get after wading through lots of co-morbid diagnoses that only explained away part of the larger problem. I call it fence-sitting because when you try to explain what exactly is your difficulty with a particular thing people always explain it away with "but you are so normal!, everyone feels like that sometimes or why must you want to have a condition so desperately?" And then, of course, the very next time you misread them or miss the obvious they scream, "What the $#@* is wrong with you?!?!?" I've been fence-sitting for 53 years now and it never seems to get any easier.
As an aspy kid. I feel your pain completely. I've spent many many years studying people and trying to teach myself body language. The fact that male and female ASD present differently in general has always made it hard for others to take me seriously when I say that I don't understand.
I do like to think of myself as 'charmingly awkward' (whether this is true or not is highly debatable lol). Most people laugh off my in intensity and my inability to understand illogical things. My friends and my partner all accept me for who I am. However like most other aspy's. I'm seen more as 'quirky', which is fine, until I say or do something that is inappropriate. When people assume you to be merely quirky, they don't take into account that your social skills are seriously flawed and that you genuinely don't realise that being truthful can be seen as offensive. This problem is compounded when you are intellectually intelligent. People fail to realise that there is a different between intellectual intelligence and social intelligence.
There is nothing wrong with someone thinking your awkwardness is endearing, but people really need to start to realise that us aspy's etc. aren't jerks - we are merely people battling every single day to communicate effectively.
Not only that though, it's not just that we are socially inept - it's that we see honestly as good. We don't WANT to have to read your body language to see your words aren't truthful, we don't WANT you to say it's fine and expect us to know it's not, we don't WANT to lie, we don't WANT to hold our tongues, we see that as a negative thing. We understand that the rest of society sees white lies and omitting truths to be common courtesy. But we don't. We don't feel courteous or kind when we follow etiquette - we feel like frauds!
Thank you so much for writing and sharing this. As a fellow "aspergirl", who's pretty good (practiced) at pretending to be "normal" (at least for limited periods of time) i can totally relate. You speak to so much of my own truth and experiences, which is why reading your words made my heart beat quicker :-)
Thank you again--and you're an amazing writer, by the way!
Colleen
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