Whisper “I am a leaf on the wind; watch how I soar” to them.
Pretend not to understand any of their Spaced references.
Tell someone who likes to think of himself as a Moss from the IT Crowd that he in fact reminds you of “that one guy from The Big Bang Theory.”
“I think John Hurt was the best Doctor, personally.”
“Oh, I’m sorry — I figured you knew when I asked you to come over to watch Death At A Funeral that you knew I meant the American remake.”
Compare Batman: The Animated Series negatively to the comics.
Intentionally confuse Shaun of the Dead with The Walking Dead.
Whisper “Your shirt…” dazedly to them.
Say “I don’t want to go” at the end of the night.
“Had he lived, Phil Hartman would have voiced Zapp Brannigan. Had he lived.”
“I loved the Deathly Hallows epilogue.”
“Dee.”
“Sure, I love the New 52, but most importantly, it’s canon.”
Remind her that Elementary regularly pulls in more than twice the number of Sherlock viewers.
Play Connie Francis’ “If It Takes Forever.”
“I think listening to chiptune is a sign of arrested emotional development.”
“They will never actually get around to making a movie version of Good Omens.”
“Oh, I’m sorry — I figured you knew when I asked you to come over to watch Oldboy that you knew I meant the American remake.”
“Eighteenth and Potomac.”
DAMN YOU. :sniffle:
Hahaha, oh man, I just got a little involunarily mad about the Batman: The Animated Series thing.
I LITERALLY BRISTLED. The only reason I didn’t fly into a mansplaining rage is because I know Mallory reps Hamill’s Joker.
My actual first thought was, “What…why would you even JOKE about that?”
So. I guess I know which very specific type of person I am.
I think it’s especially infuriating because when I imagine the person who would dare to say such a thing, it is definitely A Man.
Don’t you mean Batman: The Actually Best Series?
MRS LANDINGHAAAAAMMMMMM
I’m lazily making my way through a WW rewatch and I didn’t realize it was That Episode until it was too late. Ouch.
I came here to say exactly that.
Well then, God jed, I don’t even want to know you.
I’ve never seen WW at all, so probably you’d like to gain the power to ban me from this site & then do that. (I would hardly be able to quibble.)
Loved her. LOVED THIS. This episode made me cry, dammit.
I have been rewatching it with a friend, he knew that she died, thought it might be in “It’s not the fall that kills you” (which is the episode before it…) but I was sitting there all through “Eighteenth & Potomac” dying of feelings without saying anything.
Unrelated but Elementary is better and not just for Lucy Liu
This is accurate. Elementary is the superior show in every way and I will defend that statement to the pain.
“I don’t think I’m quite familiar with that phrase.”
(yes I realize I’m super late. oh well, worth it.)
“The first FMA anime had a tighter resolution and more compelling arc for Greed.”
LIES
*dusts off hands*
you take that back.
(ZEPPELINS?!)
Brotherhood has Olivier Armstrong; your argument is invalid.
I am defeated, like Alex Armstrong in the battle for Armstrong inheritance rights.
…I actually agree with this. Also, Hughes and Nina’s episodes were better in the first FMA. Does this make me a bad person?
Nah, I definitely agree that the Hughes and Nina stuff was better in the first series – it was like a master class in really twwwwisting the knife and making the viewer suffer, haha.
I had capital-O Opinions on this as a 14-year-old weeb, man, and most of them were about Misogyny and Sidelining Of Female Characters and Total Deus Ex Machina, but a good part of my argument was just that the “tighter resolution” was absolute bullshit and what the fuck even was that Envy-Rayquaza-snake thing?
The first FMA is the bestt because someone greenlighted the decision “let’s have the thing on the other side of the gate be interwar Europe.”
“Phoenix should have just stayed disbarred.”
It’s true though
the vest though
You know who else has a vest
Two vests > one vest. I thought you were a math person.
The sequels involve Apollo acquiring more and more vests, jackets, sashes in a desperate attempt to one-up Phoenix who responds in kind
By the time five more games go past they’re unrecognizable piles of cloth and accessories shouting muffled objections, their pointer fingers just barely poking out from the sartorial monstrosities they’ve become
I mean, that pic you posted shows that it’s already started.
I will FIGHT you. *swings enormous stepladder*
On that note, this comic is my life: http://toushindai.tumblr.com/post/72086219548/col…
It’s funny ’cause it’s ALL of our lives. Wait, no, not funny. That other word. Horrible.
I suppose the fact that I already know about this despite only being on the second game shows my complete lack of control when it comes to spoilers. (Maybe if I spent less time reading angsty fanfic and more time cross-examining ventriloquist puppets, I’d be further along.)
Let’s be real: if Franziska weren’t opposing counsel, literally nobody would have gotten past that part.
That puppet. That CLOWN. Ugh.
She is the only one keeping me sane. I would just let her win and throw everyone involved in the whole damn circus in prison if it didn’t mean I wouldn’t be able to get to the next episode.
hit the foolish fools again franziska please just keep hitting them
Ahaha the first time I played that case I wanted a particular character to have done it, so I kept presenting evidence that pointed to him and trying to call him as a witness, and the judge was all, “I don’t see what this has to do with anything. PENALTY.” Got a couple games over that way.
“I personally like Willow and Oz more than Willow and Tara.”
“Wasn’t Kennedy great, though?”
I actually liked Kennedy better. Tara seemed like such a cardboard cutout. She was just there to be Willow’s girlfriend, and had basically no character outside of Willow and magic. They DID A WHOLE FREAKING EPISODE on how she had no character aside from Willow and magic. I found her unutterably dull and deeply disappointing. At least Kennedy had a personality.
This is the first positive thing about Kennedy I have ever heard.
OH MY GOD I ASSUMED IT WAS A JOKE
I found it hilarious.
SOMEONE SAID THIS TO ME THE OTHER DAY AND I JUST
and
and then they were no more.
Is it okay to love them equally? Because I adore both Oz and Tara.
I watched New Moon Rising a few days ago, and there may have been some ugly snot-tears.
I like them both as characters, but I think the Oz relationship was always pretty bad for Willow. She got super into the *concept* of having this cool boyfriend, but she seemed to spend most of her time very wound up with insecurity over him and the state of their relationship. I think she was overcompensating for being deep-down aware that they were never very comfortable with each other or seem to have much in common. Oz was cool, but it wasn’t the right relationship for either of them.
I think he made a great Starter Boyfriend. Showed Willow that she could handle a beginning, middle and end of a relationship.
And then he drove away forever, which was the best thing for it.
Although Willow became abusive in the relationship wth Tara, so maybe that wasn’t great for her (or, you know, for Tara).
Yeah, that’s what I think! Really, were there ANY healthy romantic relationships on BtVS? Giles and Jenny maybe could have been, but they didn’t have much time. Xander and Anya? I don’t know. I like both characters a lot, but they were often mean to each other and didn’t communicate well (they even sang a song about it).
Every time I rewatch Buffy, I like Xander less. He didn’t bother me much early on or at the time of airing, but rewatching even the earliest seasons now…and I think a huge part of that is how terrible he and Anya are/become
I always used to think that Xander got better as the show went on, after he stopped pulling all that Nice Guy crap on Buffy and obsessing about Angel and everything, but I don’t know now.
I probably shouldn’t do another rewatch for a long time, or I’ll end up hating everyone. I kind of do by season 7, anyway. (Even GILES pisses me off by the end.)
*forced laugh*
*growls at innocent co-workers*
I did get a little sad about Dee just now though, so well played Mallory.
Who is Dee? Dying of curiosity, but my google skills are letting me down.
(Try it with Battlestar Galactica.)
OH!
Her full name is Dualla, I think.
“I think John Hurt was the best Doctor, personally.”
You guys… I… I DO.
::breaks down sobbing::
I was so so hoping there would be a comment like this, just so I could nod solemnly and ask for A LENGTHY EXPLANATION. *steeples fingers and waits*
Well there’s probably a lot more to it but I don’t have a TERRIBLY lengthy one, but the short version is that he’s curmudgeonly and fed up with everyone’s BS and SUPER annoyed at how 10 and 11 spend all their time smooching and that last bit sums several of my emotions on the subject too.
NINE 4LYFE YO
THUMBS UP TIMES A BILLION
SHOWS UP TO THIS THREAD 8 WEEKS LATE WITH STARBUCKS TO ASSERT THAT NINE IS IN FACT THE BEST DOCTOR AND I WILL FIGHT ANYONE WHO DISAGREES
I was all “lol I am above all this, how do you like them apples, Mallory.” Then I got to Dee and now I’m like
And semi-unrelated, at some point in my life I know I am going to have to yell that line.
I am saving this gif and pulling it out when I need to channel Valkyrie Laura Roslin!! (I remember watching this episode the first time. The hairs on the back of my neck stood on end in this scene. She is magnificent.)
Yep. Got most of the references, but was all “eh, no big deal, no big deal, whateve — OH GOD WHY.”
STOOOP
(Though “Remind her that Elementary regularly pulls in more than twice the number of Sherlock viewers.” FILLS ME WITH GLEE it is a vastly superior show! I like them both but Elementary is better, sorry not sorry)
Mass Effect version:
“Had to be me. Anyone else would have gotten it wrong.”
“Virmire”
etc
You played right into her tags.
I did so many things wrong in Mass Effect to the point that (this is going to make a very specific, very small group of people upset) both Wrex and Eve were dead by the end, and the krogan were left to be led by a semi-tyrannical dude. I was just crossing my fingers that he wouldn’t kill, you know, everyone. Then I had a hugely ugly cry over the picture of the lady krogan holding a baby in the end montage.
I was very stern with myself about getting the best possible ending in all mass effects (and I DID YES)
spoilers:
– Genophage over (Had to put controller down for ten minutes over Mordin)
– Geth and Quarians approaching friendship, back on their native planet (cried when Legion uploaded himself to achieve it)
etc etc
But aside from the questionable ending so much in that series tore my heart out. So much.
Ahahahahahahah guess what happened in MY version? Legion tried to kill Tali and Tali stabbed him and I could’ve shot him but I was ABSOLUTELY UNABLE to and he asked Tali with his last dying robo-breaths “Does this unit have a soul?”
Thank Christ I managed to save both groups… but you still get “Does this unit have a soul?” before Legion keels over.
“Legion, the answer to your question is yes.” “I know Tali, but thank you.” TEARS FOR FUCKING EVERRRRRRR.
My husband had not gotten Tali exonerated in ME2, and never resolved the conflict between her and Legion. That means that when the arc came to the end in ME3, friendship was not an option. So he chose the Geth.
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS And then Tali jumped off a cliff. END SPOILERS
He stared at the screen for a few moments, narrowed his eyes, and then went and downloaded a PC save game editor.
Holy. Shit. I had NO IDEA that was the outcome! I didn’t even know it was possible not to exonerate Tali! THIS IS AMAZING AND TERRIBLE.
The “best” part. Spoilers. As she watches the Fleet being destroyed in the sky above her, she suddenly starts to fall backwards off the cliff, and there is a Paragon Interrupt you can take. “Aha, I can save her!” Nope. You call out her name and go to catch her, but you don’t make it in time, and she’s gone.
It’s fucking traumatizing.
If you need me, I’ll be under my desk, rocking back and forth, sobbing.
Yeah, me too.
Holy shit. Just. Holy shit.
I know, right??
I’m pretty sure that was going to happen in my last (now on hiatus) playthrough, because my Tali wasn’t loyal. She hadn’t been exiled, but I TOLD THE TRUTH about her father at the trial — because my Shepard believes in the truth, damn it, and Rael was a war criminal, and she isn’t covering that up! Tali was…not pleased with me after that. I honestly didn’t think she was going to survive holding the line on the suicide mission, but she squeaked through, somehow. (I have played through the suicide mission in an attempt to kill off a specific pair of characters while keeping specific other characters alive so many times that I’ve become quite stoic about some of their deaths, so forgive my heartless tone. In that attempt I have also learned that on Casual, you can just sprint through the entire vent section without taking a single shot.)
I had to replay the last part of Mass Effect 2 because I picked the wrong person for one of the things and people died.
Approaching the end of Mass Effect, my boyfriend missed the command where you can make Shepard hug Garrus and say she’ll always be watching over him, even if she dies, because he was wiping his eyes due to the last bit having made him cry. He was very distressed by this.
GARRUS. *weeps*
My space boyfriend
My cat.
(I have two of them but this one is more relevant at this moment! Midna, I love you! I know you’re reading this!) (She’s very smart.)
Cats do generally have reach and flexibility…
Hahahah I’m sorry I am totally that person and when I find out my friends have killed people off by accident I’m like, “HOW!?” (I only lost one party member my first Mass Effect playthrough, it was Mordin and I was DEVASTATED.)
Believe me (and this did NOT happen to me, thankfully), if you keep Mordin alive, it’s a whole lot worse.
Oh I know, I only lost him my first playthrough. And then when I did my renegade playthrough, I COULDN’T DO IT. (You know what “it” is.)
SHERLOCK IS THE BEST. That is all
(We all know that Irene Adler’s password didn’t get cracked, right?)
I think Johnny Lee Miller is about a 1000% better Holmes than Benedict Cumberbatch, and I am not sorry for that at all.
A better Holmes and more attractive. (not that that’s a high bar to clear)
JLM Holmes: expertly acted, delightfully sexy, and best of all, Watson and the show do not put up with his shit. “I don’t do people well.” “Fuck you! Stop being an asshole!”
I just really like how brittle Miller’s portrayal is. Unlike Cumberbatch’s swaggering asshole Holmes, you really get the sense that Miller’s is this close to just completely losing his shit. It comes across as very true for me, and very true to the idea of him as a recovering addict (something that’s so much more present than in Sherlock); Cumberbatch’s Holmes doesn’t like people because he’s a raging prick who can’t cope with how stupid everyone is. Miller’s Holmes purposefully keeps everyone at a distance becaues he has, at great effort and personal expense, created a tenuous equilibrium in his life that he is constantly on the verge of losing.
The mystery stuff I kind of don’t care about (though I got to admit, I don’t really get what people like about the Sherlock mysteries. “What if some Chinese gangs were also an evil circus and were murdering people with mysterious symbols?” “What if there was a secret army project to create a fear machine that made people scared of dogs and Holmes figures it out using the power of ANAGRAMS?” “What if Moriarty…did whatever the fuck Moriarty was doing? Something…something about fake identities and a computer code, only the code was fake, and Holmes somehow doesn’t know that even a very simple computer code rendered in binary couldn’t possibly be tapped out on a chair in three minutes?”).
The foregrounding of Holmes’ recovering from his addiction and trying to build a new life for himself in its aftermath I think is a really sensitive, interesting, and compelling choice.
Yesssssssss to all of the above.
Also, also also, Elementary has several compelling people of color as characters (unlike so many other shows about NY)! And Mrs. Watson is the lovely Candis Cayne! And make-believe Anonymous as the Baker Street Regulars. It’s is a beautifully acted and thought out show, and I LOVE IT.
I agree with this. I never thought of myself as someone who would like Lucy Liu (mostly because I think I only ever saw her in Ballistic: Ecks versus Sever, and let’s be real, that’s not a fair environment in which to evaluate anyone [though it is pretty much the peak of Ray Park as a movie star]), but she is pretty great in this AND I quite like how serious the show is about making her Watson a legitimate detectiving partner for Holmes. I like that she has more to do than be all, “By Jove, Holmes! How do you do it?” and get mistaken for his boyfriend.
Moffat & Gatiss are really good at writing stories that stop making sense if you think about them for more than a couple of minutes, or even while they’re going on. Oh, and shallow facades of progressiveness.
Also at resolving those stories by having Sherlock/the Doctor/Henry Jekyll &c. give a speech about how tough they are and about the Darkness Inside.
(Hahah, but seriously, remember when Sherlock had that fight with Moriarty on the rooftop, and Sherlock said to the international-murderous-supercriminal, “Oh, look into my eyes and see the capacity for eeeeevil” and somehow this was sufficient motivation for Moriarty to agree that Sherlock COULD get him to stop the plan, and so he kills himself? What was that? What do we think Moriarty expected him to do? Detective at him? Look at him with his weird otter-face until he cracked? “Prepared to do anything! I may be on the side of the angels, but I am not one of them!” Sit down. Sit down you guys, take a break, have a snack, maybe a little nap. Take a brief vacation and come back when you’re fucking serious here.)
The entire Moriarty storyline was just terrible. “I’m a murderous sociopath, and you’re just so boring” is incredibly overplayed and uninspiring. It’s just, ok, congratulations, you’re very clever (apparently), you can come up with silly plans to get law enforcement’s attention, you trolled them right well, good job. He’s that guy on a forum who just spouts racist b.s., and then mocks people for falling into his clever trap by being offended at his offensiveness. That guy’s annoying enough without having an author tell us that he’s a super-genius of whom we should be very, very afraid.
The thing about it that gets to me is that this fascination with sociopathy is just so transparently juvenile. I don’t know if you’ve ever been an angsty, 16-year-old nerdy boy, but that whole, “Oh, there’s a DARKNESS inside me that you should be SCARED of,” that process of trying to convince people that you’re powerful or frightening is the thing. That’s what you stay up late at night on the message boards trying to convince people of, and it’s gross and stupid and embarrassing enough when I look back at myself doing it at that age, but seeing an actual grown man (or two) writing this kind of ludcirously needy teenage bullshit is…guh. Bluh, no thank you. No thank you ladies and gentlemen.
I was never a nerdy 16-year old boy, but I was a nerdy 16-year old girl who’d read too many Romantic novels, and I felt very seriously about my Tragic Pain and Darkness (because male angst gets turned outward, while female angst gets turned inward). It all ranges from embarrassing to genuinely upsetting and worrisome; my reactions to characters doing that are somewhere along the spectrum from “oh, honey, honey no” to “I…please get all of the therapy now, because you’re clearly dealing with some shit.”
My reaction is never “oh no, the entire country is in danger! I hope a dark, brooding hero can defeat this clearly impressive villain.”
Bless everything about this comment.
Elementary is indeed the superior show. For reasons ranging from the legit (having actual women and people of colour and trans people and people of various different sexual orientations in the show) to the whimsical (one case involves DINOSAUR BONES in a backyard; there is a turtle who occasionally wears a little sweater) to the purely carnal (dear god, Lucy Liu and Johnny Lee Miller’s abs).
Clyde! 😀
Clyde!!!
I also enjoyed the bizarre episode in which Sherlock rehabilitates those fighting roosters, which clearly happened just because someone in the writers’ room wanted to test exactly how many times CBS would let them get away with saying “cocks” on air. I snickered each and every time, so well done, writers.
I love Elementary so much for so many reasons (not least of which making the Irene-Is-Moriary fanon ACTUAL CANON, sorry, spoilers). The roosters are a big part of it.
“I don’t care which cock I’m holding, I just want to know how it got there” is the best quote from that episode and I will brook no argument.
Also side note, I love both Sherlock and Elementary and don’t really get the point of comparing them because they are completely different kinds of shows and are both delightful in their own way.
it does a better job of casting various types of people but that doesn’t make it a well-written show
Ehhh honestly I don’t even care about mystery plots at ALL. I never remember them and I am the most gullible person in the world so I never guess who it is even when it’s really obvious, so it’s all just “there is a mystery! blah blah blah clues *hand-waving* it’s solved!” It’s the interactions en route and the character moments that I actually care about. The characters of Elementary (especially the main two) are more developed and well-written than the characters of Sherlock, plus I get to see a greater variety of people doing stuff. As for the rest, IDGAF.
I mean, I watch both, but when I say Elementary is better overall, I ain’t trollin.’
I feel like they lovingly and beautifully craft all the character stuff, then just get drunk and write the mystery in 15 minutes.
I just feel like the writing on Sherlock has gotten lazy, particularly in the last two seasons. The first season set up some interesting characters, and Cumberwumble is an incredibly charismatic actor. But since then it’s all been “Sherlock is an alien who is trying to understand these things you humans call fee-lings” and then being a jerk to people but then everyone loves him anyway because…reasons.
Elementary, meanwhile, has explored the whole angle of Holmes’ addiction very thoroughly over the course of three seasons, through ups and downs, and through its effects on the other members of the cast. Watson is sympathetic and a colleague but does not put up with his shit, and the evolution of their (delightfully platonic) relationship has been really wonderful to watch. Meanwhile, she gets her own character development and arcs beyond Holmes’ life, and feels like a fully fledged character rather than just a sidekick. Besides which, there was the whole Detective Bell arc last season, looking at the actual consequences of their weird role as NYPD “Consulting Detectives.” The mysteries are perfectly fine (I’d argue that they’re much better than the ones in Sherlock Season 3, where two of the three episodes didn’t even have a mystery plot). But the acting is excellent, and the characters and their relationships are top-notch, so it’s consistently a pleasure to watch. The fact that it’s got women, non-white characters, and a trans Ms. Hudson (more Ms. Hudson, plz!) is just the icing on the cake.
Maybe I am being a pollyanna, but I also prefer Elementary’s worldview. In Sherlock, the world is a boring, dull place full of boring, stupid people and the only way Watson/the viewer can have even a bit of light in their life is to put up with the asshole antics of a mouthy manchild who is occasionally interesting. In Elementary, Sherlock is not only not the only interesting person in the world, he’s sometimes not even the most interesting person in the room. Being the world’s only “consulting detective” is cool, but being the world’s only “professional muse” is cooler. And so many characters from Moriarty to that older lady who wrote genius-level smutty letter is someone who you want to know more about. Elementary suggests that the world is full of fascinating people doing wild and wonderful things, you just haven’t noticed yet. I’d rather spend time in that world, personally.
I FORGOT about the dignified lady smutmaster! I really love this show.
Sherlock suffers from the common problem of genius characters being written by non-genius writers. The logical leaps don’t make any sense, and we have to take most of his brilliance on faith.
The procedural aspects get clunky, but I think the season-long mystery of season 1 was well-constructed and well-written, and better than any of Sherlock’s mysteries. (The season 2 mystery was godawful, though, I will make no excuses for it.)
Sherlock is the Way More Terrible show, but it is also the only show of the two that has any amount of Excellent. If (when) the terrible outweighs the excellent for some people, I totally understand and sympathize. (See also: Song of Ice & Fire/Game of Thrones, Scandal, Dollhouse, etc)
But no amount of Moffatt-brand Terribleness will ever make Elementary into anything other than Generic CBS Procedural No. 214.
Also an episode that hinged on someone growing an extra ear on their back!
Elementary is sooooo much better.
Me too. I end up shrieking with incoherent rage at the television so much less when I watch Elementary!
I end up too drained by the crushing boredom to shriek anything. I can barely emit a wan call for water and sustenance.
Really, I don’t get Elementary. It’s the exact same show as all the other crime procedurals. You can call him Sherlock Holmes or Bobby Jim McGillicuddy, but it’s still just CSI without equipment.
Yes! This is why I can’t really get into Elementary. (Except for the Watson parts, because Lucy Liu is the best)
Yeah yeah but the Guy Ritchie movies are much better than both.
(Am I playing the game right?)
THERE WE GO
Honest to God, I was tempted to attend DashCon this year and just walk around wearing a “Robert Downey Jr. Is My Sherlock Holmes” and see what happened.
Not Nicholas Rowe? (He was my first on-screen Sherlock, at a young impressionable age, and part of that still sticks.)
I dislike both Kaidan and Ashley, so Virmire doesn’t do anything to me (where’s the option to leave them both behind). But oh man. Genophage and geth stuff gets me every time. If you maintain friendship with Wrex all the way through the series he has this great quote right before Shepard heads to the shroud that’s like “You’ve been a champion of the Krogan people, a friend to Clan Urdnot, and a sister to me” and I LOSE MY SHIT EVERY TIME. One time I did a renegade playthrough and had Wreave instead of Wrex and it felt so wrong (and I sabotaged the genophage cure and saved Mordin, so it didn’t matter).
I like the way grunt clearly thinks of you as his mum (f you femmeshep, and why wouldn’t you?) and how in the third one he is so desperate at trying to make you proud and… and i get maternal over a violent, aggressive space lizard.
TANK BABY
And then he falls asleep drunk in the shower during the Citadel party and it’s the best thing ever.
“Had to be me. Anyone else would have gotten it wrong.”
As the Mass Effect series, in my mind, can basically be summed up as “Dr. Mordin Solus Does Awesome Things plus maybe something about reapers whatevs,” that line is true on every level for me. (This also marks where my replays of the third game tend to trail off, as my interest starts to wane after Tuchanka.)
I’m with you. Mordin’s arc is the arc Darth Vader wishes he had.
When he sings the Major-General’s song, I get super verklempt. I’m tearing up just thinking about it.
I can babble on about Mordin for embarrassingly long amounts of time. He’s honestly one of my favorite characters in all of fiction. He just feels so…real in his motivations and complexity.
Elementary is a nice detective story show but Sherlock is a show about Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes.
Is it though? Cause I seem to recall that Conan Doyle’s Holmes had deep empathy and compassion for other human beings, even though he hid it because he didn’t understand them.
And I really don’t think that Moffat’s sherlock does that.
It depends on which story—his character varies. Conan Doyle was not the most consistent writer. Sometimes he has empathy and sometimes he doesn’t have much at all (remember when Watson is shocked that Holmes got engaged to a woman just to get information off of her and totally didn’t feel bad?).
No, no it is not.
Re the Mordin quite: excuse me.
*Puts face down in pillow and kicks legs in air for about five minutes.*
I think I cried at least five times in Mass Effect 3. Good/bad news: Patrick Weekes, Mordin and Tali’s writer, is writing like three separate companion characters in Dragon Age: Inquisition. I expect to find them delightful and funny, and then at some point need to bawl my eyes out for a good afternoon.
ONLY 5 times?
…Yeah, that’s a bald-faced lie. Though I could technically say I only cried “once”, as I never really stopped crying.
Mass Effect version:
“Had to be me. Anyone else would have gotten it wrong.”
“Virmire”
Me, to my boyfriend:”You like Mass Effect. Do these emotionally devastate you?”
“YES.”
“You gonna help, huh? You gonna look out for me? You gonna look out for me, Sgt Carver?” Or, if you prefer, “Where the fuck is Wallace?”
oof
“How my hair look Mike?”
“You look good, girl.”
(Emotionally) right in the chest. Oh man.
You had to go there. Both of you. Now I’m crying before I have to go to yoga, damn.
Ouch.
NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO
Aaaaaahhhh
I was perfectly fine up until this comment.
[WIRE SPOILERS]
I astonished myself and terrified my husband by bursting out into ragged sobs when Michael B. Jordan appeared for the first time on Friday Night Lights. It wasn’t even surprise: I knew he was going to be playing a main character that season, I was looking forward to it. Though I’ve cried plenty at characters’ deaths or misfortune, this outburst at an actor’s first appearance was a completely unexpected, unprecedented experience in my TV-watching.
When I stopped sobbing, I turned a tearful face to The Fella and said “He got to grow up. I’m just so glad to see him grown up, you know?” And he nodded soberly because, well, yeah, he did know.
oh man, now you’re gonna make ME cry.
[after they have identified themselves as a Hufflepuff] “Aww, I would NEVER sort you into Hufflepuff.”
Recent conversation I actually had:
“What’s your House?”
“Slytherin. I’m an asshole.”
“[So-and-so] says she’d be Slytherin, too, but it’s only because green’s her favorite color. That’s such a Hufflepuff thing to say.”
Long live the bumbling badger of mediocrity!
Elementary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sherlock
(TBF The Great Mouse Detective >>>> Sherlock)
A child’s stick-figure drawing of Sherlock Hemlock >>>>> Sherlock.
HOW CAN I NOT LIKE THIS MORE
YOU CAN IN YOUR SOUL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SOUL. UNLIKE SOME SHOW CREATORS AND THEIR GROSS CREATIONS.
I love you.
I need this on a shirt A-fucking-SAP
I mean, that’s true, but The Great Mouse Detective is also a pretty amazingly great interpretation of Sherlock Holmes.
The book tie-in was the 1st place I ever saw the word ‘dirigible’, so.
The Zero Effect is my go to modern Sherlock preference.
Kim Dickens is a perfect Irene Adler.
YESYESYESYESYES why do more people not know about/love (but I repeat myself) Zero Effect?
This is practically on topic: the wounds of Mallory’s blithe dismissals of books and shows that I love were salved by learning that she is a Big Lebowski hater. What a garbage, overrated movie.
I really love The Big Lebowski and I get so super sad that it’s uncool to like it now 🙁
nothing you do or like can be uncool because you are cool
it’s not uncool just because I don’t like it you guys
MALLORY IS THE ARBITER OF ALL GOOD TASTE
(no but seriously I always think of this old post on The Hairpin and how The Big Lebowski is supposed to be some sort of pinnacle of “Cool Girlism” but I just think it’s funny and I like it why does it have to represent who I am a person deep inside)
Yes it IS funny and I DO like it. I mean! That one scene with Julianne Moore! It’s FUNNY.
MAUDE LEBOWSKI’S STRONGLY VAGINAL ART 4EVA
[holds up lighter]
It’s even funnier dubbed in Italian, btw. “Va-gEEna.”
The above sentence is only true because you said it.
Do NOT make me start shouting angrily at god in latin, ma’am. It was her first brand new car!
*weeping inconsolably*
“And Josh Lyman, what was that, a warning shot? That was my son. What did I ever do to yours but praise his glory and praise his name?” The way Martin Sheen’s voice breaks on “my son” gets me every time.
Whelp, I DID have other plans this evening, but now it’s just a date between me, the couch, and all of West Wing. Dammit.
You might think you’re “just gonna watch one episode” but then it’s a week later, you finished out the series and circled back to start it again, and you don’t know what’s happening with your life.
I wish I could laugh in a superior fashion to this, but I can’t because I really am on my second full watch of WW and thinking to myself, “Do I just start at the beginning after S4 ends?”
We just hit Season 5 (which is about where I stopped watching religiously when it was on air), and while I’m enjoying reminders of the episodes I had seen and watching the episodes I hadn’t for the first time, my girlfriend keeps grumbling about it being Not Sorkin. I sympathize, but…I still kind of enjoy it?
The deterioration of Seasons 5 & 6 really was kinda gradual, not as sudden as one would think with the Head Creator’s departure. The first half of s05 is still fairly watchable.
If you’re still tolerating it by the time you’re starting into s06, then I will be truly surprised. During the ’08 presidential primaries I went back and watched s07 for the campaign episodes that I had never seen. I really enjoyed those, but I saw it as watching a completely different show.
My boyfriend and I are a few episodes into Season 6. It’s definitely gone downhill, but CJ is still wonderful, which helps.
I enjoyed it, but not as much. A writer friend of mine told me to stick it out, it gets better after it gets bad. I still like seasons 1-4 best of all, though.
YES
We started it a week before the 08 elections and when we got to the end of the first season, I made my husband stop with me until after Election Day because I thought I was going to have a panic attack, what with the last episode and all.
Until I saw Martin Sheen as Jed Bartlet I seriously would have laughed off anyone telling me he was a superb actor.
I have chills. Just thinking about it.
“Had he lived, Phil Hartman would have voiced Zapp Brannigan. Had he lived.”
Day ruined.
If it makes you feel any better, Fry’s first name is “Phillip” in honor of Phil Hartman.
Post a pic of Seymour Asses just before he closes his eyes.
;_;
🙁 🙁 🙁
Noooooooo
I choose to believe in the alternate timelines where Seymour is still alive and happy.
Is here a good place to talk about how much I HATE that throwaway joke in the evolution episode about them finding the fossil of “another one of Fry’s dogs”? Literally a throwaway, they just toss the fossil, but how dare they imply that Seymour was just some dog to go on the garbage heap. He was the BEST dog. He WAITED. I wish they had cloned him.
Guys. Here are some Whedon spoilers lololololol
I was just thinking about Tara’s death last night and how I still find Wash’s death more upsetting, even though I highly prefer Buffy to Firefly and Serenity. I just feel like it was truly unnecessary (same goes for Shepherd Book, but I wasn’t as attached to him) and only there for shock value, whereas Tara’s death had value. But I couldn’t decide if Wash’s was more or less upsetting than Fred’s in Angel, because Fred’s leads to some of the roughest Wesley moments of all.
So… What’s the most upsetting Whedon death, Toasties? And is there a more satisfying death than Topher’s on Dollhouse?
Joyce, simply because of how mundane it was. (However, Doyle’s got me in the feels pretty hard.)
Seconding this. It is highly unlikely that anyone I love will get hit with a stray bullet or impaled by a bit of space garbage, but a brain aneurysm? That is a Thing that Happens and it is terrifying and senseless.
Similarly, I maintain that Gingerbread is the scariest episode of Buffy.
Gingerbread is horrifying.
idk what the worst whedon death is but i DO know that thinking about them all in one go is the worst thing you can do on a wednesday morning to your poor fragile heart help oh god i’m gonna be that girl quietly weeping onto her keyboard at work
Oh god, yes, Joyce, and Anya’s “nobody will tell me why” monologue
Oooof. I watched that episode alone the other day, and my brother came home toward the end and was like OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED, because I was a wreck
Changing my Worst Whedon Death to Joyce, too.
I mean, I knew her, and then she’s, there’s just a body, and I don’t understand why she just can’t get back in it and not be dead anymore! It’s stupid!”
It’s so perfectly tuned to Anya’s normal belligerent innocence, but also gives voice to the childlike thoughts that go through your brain after a loss.
UGH I forgot about the Anya scene! That left me devastated, too. They were all just perfect in that episode. IT SHOULD BE GIVEN SOME KIND OF AWARD.
I think you’re right. Wash is the most upsetting because it feels the most like a cheap narrative trick. I get upset when characters I like die, but if done well it feels like exactly the right thing for the story, so it’s sort of satisfying in a way too. But the plot of Serenity would be essentially unchanged if Wash had survived, making it not pretty awful not only emotionally but also intellectually.
That is why I fast forward through that part, tell myself firmly that Wash is back fixing something at the ship, and happily carry on. (Zoe is making sad faces because she’s grumpy that Wash chose ship-fixing over fighting beside her. They’ll make up later, it’s fine.) The narrative still makes complete sense that way, and I am not reduced to a gibbering ball of tears.
Yeah, I know a lot of us Do Not Accept Wash’s death in headcanon, and precisely because IT MAKES NO SENSE. I mean, yeah, sad, but lots of characters that I love die in stories and it doesn’t bug me the way Wash’s completely unnecessary shock-value death does.
My semi-defense: it was the one and only “shock value” death I’ve ever seen that actually shocked me/changed how I saw the rest of that movie.
Book’s death was far from shocking, and it was fairly easy to think, “okay, there’s our token stakes-raising death, that makes sense”. Enough so that at first, I thought the spear wasn’t going to be final, somehow. They were going to be all, “psych!” Until a few minutes later, when I was worried that maybe they were ALL really going to die. It made the danger for Kaylee and Mal and everyone very real.
It doesn’t negate your core point-it WAS a bit unnecessary, plot-wise-but it’s still the last time I sat in a movie theater and genuinely didn’t see it coming/feared for the heroes’ fate. (We all knew Groot wasn’t going to stay gone, for example.)
I appreciated it (even though I HATE it and am now and forever glad that there’s no more Firefly so we don’t have to endure it without Wash) in a “this is actual war” sense. People in wars don’t die for narrative reasons, they die because it’s war. And making that something that the audience and characters have to deal with is worthwhile every so often, I think.
Also, while it didn’t affect the plot, it completely affected my experience of the rest of the movie. I was legitimately terrified and convinced every character was going to die when they had a danger moment, which is a rare experience for me. So I think it was an effective choice. (But WASH, though!!! *whimpers*)
Fred’s death sort of pushed me over the edge on Whedon. I mean I still watch and love all of them. But the second Fred and Wesley kissed at the end of Smile Time I looked at my mom and said “Well, Fred’s gonna die”. And sure enough, in the very next episode. It was just so predictable and boring (as wonderful and gut-wrenching as the actual episode is when taken on its own).
Yup. When they kissed, I said “OH FUCK” out loud because obviously Fred was going to die die die.
I was just coming down here to post “Wesley, why can’t I stay” http://youtu.be/qLshPiR0jyM
But on a more infuriating than devastating note, is this the right place to drop a Cordelia/Connor reference?
(I’m so, so sorry)
Wash’s death was the most upsetting.
Coulson’s (temporary) death was the most infuriating. Am I really supposed to believe that Iron Man and Captain America wouldn’t save the world unless some dude they barely knew died? Maybe they would get their act together and do the right thing because they were, you know, heroes. Plus, about a bazillion other shield agents died in the attack, was Coulson the only one worth fighting for? STILL SO MAD.
So this is hard for me, because Coulson is one of my absolute favorite Marvel characters–him and the Hawkeyes. (I’ve somehow excised my love for Coulson from the pieces I’ve written here, but my Clint Barton and Kate Bishop love is unstoppable.) But I think you’re absolutely right; Iron Man and Cap both never “needed a push” before, as Fury puts it. Sure, Tony liked Coulson, but it’s not like Pepper got caught in the crossfire, and Cap’s whole bit is that he’s a Real American Hero, so of course he’d save the greatest city in the U. S. of A.
Even as a Coulson fan, I was bothered by his resurrection. Such fan service. AoS became a decent show eventually, but the hand-wavey way they explained away his livelihood was, for a time, the worst.
Fred. I did an Angel rewatch a few years ago and I refused to watch past Fred’s death. I love the way Wesley’s character evolved on Angel (and find him super-hot), but I loved Fred so much, and I was so happy when they were about to be together, and then Joss fucking did what he always does and took that happiness and stomped all over it. But then we get Amy Acker and Alexis Denisof as Beatrice and Benedick, which is pretty much the greatest.
Having read the other comments though, Joyce. Especially because I was right around Buffy’s age when that ep aired. But The Body is one of the greatest episodes of television ever written. The one time I appreciated Anya’s “say what everyone else is thinking”.
I can handle “why can’t I stay” but not the flashback to when she’s leaving her parents’ home and driving off to LA and about to get stranded in a hell dimension (etc. etc.) and “A Place Called Home” plays.
Buffy in “The Gift” because I didn’t know the show was moving to UPN at first so I thought it was ALL OVER and I cried for DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS.
I did not find Topher’s death at all satisfying. He didn’t want to cause any more pain!
Exactly! He was self sacrificial for once in his life! (Note: Topher was by far my favorite character on that show.)
It is intellectually satisfying, but emotionally very distressing.
i agree! i was just talking about this last night; the only death that felt ‘stupid’/flat for me was Paul, and i /liked/ the manner of his death/how it was shot/handled… but it didn’t hit as well as i would have liked because i didn’t like HIM. and i tried to piece together why, and my friend Lzzy pointed this out and i think it’s accurate: how, on a Whedon show, is Paul the only character in Dollhouse to have no change? no self-realization, no self-actualization, no sacrifice that meant anything (lost his job? oh well, got a new one. lost his brain function? oh well, he’s fine now. lost feelings for echo? that got fixed, too). he enters as the white knight saving the damsel in distress and he never grew out of that. Echo was his MPDG right to the end.
Dollhouse is my world and emotionally destroyed me. I will forever cry over Topher. (And Whiskey. And November.)
Bennett’s death in that is pretty brutal too (although Whedon won’t let happy couples stay happy, etc. etc. we knew something was coming, but…) It’s so abrupt and so violent.
what a shocker! but you’re right, very Whedon, and i was here for it, especially because i love the Topher arc. i also like that Victor + Sierra, in a very unWhedon move, work out—but that they had to /work/ at it. i liked they had issues even though theirs was The Love That Could Not Be Wiped.
Ugh UGHHHH I have complicated feelings about Tara’s death. Have you read any of eleusis-walks’ essays? I unfortunately can’t find them online anymore (his livejournal is private now? Or inactive?) but he wrote 30 essays for the 30 Days of Buffy Meme, and one of them was about Willow’s arc and how her approach to magic is coded very masculine — academic, wrangling of power, very intellectual traditionally “masculine” approach to mastering magic, while Tara’s is coded feminine, more spiritual/intuitive. (He wrote about it in a much more articulate way than I am; it was just a brilliant essay I WISH I COULD FIND THEM FOR YOU).
So like, that, combined with the whole Dead Lesbian trope, makes me think that Tara’s death was less meaningful and more like she was fridged for a Willow’s coded masculine character arc and I just…rageface.
Plus, you know, I wanted Tara and Anya and Dawn to team up and start a council of lady Watchers in season 7 (and beyond) and Anya’s death makes me rageface too because ANYA.
RE: Kennedy! My friend’s girlfriend pointed out that Kennedy is very like season 1 Buffy in personality, and since Willow didn’t know she was gay in season 1, season 7 Willow is working out her Buffy-attraction with Kennedy. I have literally never thought of it this way — thoughts?
Your friend’s girlfriend is…pretty wrong? I think. It’s been awhile since I watched s7, but IIRC Kennedy was written as the brash, take-no-bullshit Tough Girl, and s1 Buffy was *extremely* not that. Her early arc was all about (as befits a high school/adolescence metaphor) trying to figure out how to be all things to all people: likeable, dateable, a good daughter, etc. Her beef with being the Slayer was, in essence, that it was a distraction from her main job of trying to be the Normal Girl (for which, always read “the girl everyone likes.”) What’s awesome about Buffy, and why I will always consider it a feminist metaphor no matter how many people tell me not to, is that over the course of several years, she transfers her locus of self-worth away from whether she pleases other people and onto whether she is accomplishing what she cares about accomplishing. She knows she’ll never really get praise or credit for it, and eventually she just *does not care,* because this is who she authentically is. As a representation of growing out of your adolescent need for other people to bestow your identity upon you and into an ability to define yourself to yourself as an adult, it’s unbeatable. Kennedy lacks that entirely, and I think you can’t reasonably compare her to s1 Buffy without it. She’s honestly much more like s7 Buffy, which is one reason she seemed disposable as a character; she isn’t really bringing any new dynamic to the cast.
Yeah, I didn’t agree either, but I couldn’t figure out…why. I mean if Kennedy is going to be an amalgamation of Buffys, it’d probably be Season 2 “Nobody messes with my boyfriend” Buffy plus Season 5 “I want to hear from Quentin, cuz I think he’s understanding me” Buffy, plus a smattering of season 1 Cordelia, honestly.
Which is to say, no. Not even a little bit like s1 Buffy, and I don’t reeeeally think Willow was ever really attracted to Buffy, anyway. That was always Xander’s gig.
I mean if we’re talking in terms of actual number of tears that came out of my eyeballs it’s a tie between Buffy and Doyle.
I should mention that the first time I saw Serenity I had not yet watched any of Firefly and was mostly there to gaze longingly into Chiwetel Ejiofor’s eyes so the gut punch of Wash didn’t land as hard as it might have.
So, I’m not well-versed on Whedonverse mythos (there may well be some interview where he confirms or denies this) but I felt like he killed off half the characters at the end of Serenity just to be like “OK, it’s over, they’re all dead, stop asking me if there’s gonna be more Firefly!”
I read that he killed off Wash and Book because they couldn’t commit to a further project (film or show) at the time, so Joss was like “That’s okay, you’re expendable.”
I think all Whedon deaths are upsetting and unnecessary and that’s kind of the point so I’m okay with it. He writes stories about different kinds of wars, and in battles there are casualties, and sometimes the people you love die. I actually like that, because too many movies and shows allow their main characters to witness but not experience the brutalities of war.
Anya. Obviously there are so many Whedon deaths it’s hard to say, but if a gif set of Anya dying comes on my dashboard I will immediately tear up. I just love her so much, and the death wasn’t shocking really, of course one of the outskirt scoobies was going to die but I was sobbing when that blade went through her. And now I am teary. So yes, that is the most upsetting death to me.
Also, I have a “Leaf on the Wind/Wash is my co-pilot license plate cover. I hope I make people cry as I cut them off.
I hope I make people cry as I cut them off
…madam, I admire your dedication to evil
On a more cheerful note, one of my favourite Mrs. Landingham moments is when the President is snapping at everyone and angry about something, and then she suggests it’s because he’s not getting enough roughage in his diet. Like she actually tells the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES that he’s probably just being grumpy because he’s a lil’ bit constipated. AMAZING.
On a less cheerful note, one of my favourite Mrs Landingham moments is when Charlie asks her why she doesn’t like Christmas and she tells him, in a calm and even voice, about her two sons dying and how much they must have wanted her when they were in danger and scared. I cried.
D:
Why…would you make this worse????
If I’m going to be sad, I want to drag everyone with me.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU WHY
I remember thinking during the first half of the episode “Oh how nice! She has a new car, for the first time, Charlie loves her so much and she’s bickering with him just like she probably did with her sons, what a lovely plot-line.”
I don’t think I need to cover my reaction to the ending.
I do not get any of these jokes and yet I still laugh; such is the charisma of one, Mallory Ortberg.
THESE ARE NOT JOKES THESE ARE AWFUL
Seconded. Nothing funny here!!
How to emotionally devastate a specific type of person: tell them that Mallory Ortberg has decided to give up writing.
I was FINE until Eighteenth and Potomac, goddamnit.
Same. Also, because I apparently hate happiness, I now want to rewatch that episode.
Yes, but then you can watch Two Cathedrals and yell at God with Jed Bartlet, so.
My first thought before I saw the picture was to try to figure out if that was a legit address or not, because one of the things that hurts me a lot in TV/movies is when they get DC geography completely wrong.
Benedict Cumberbatch looks like his face is melting and whatever accent he was trying to use in 12 Years a Slave was an embarrassment.
OUCH ok I felt that one
*high-five*
Personally I think he looks like a foot but that analogy got so played out with Robert Pattinson that it has lost all emphasis.
wait I thought it was Taylor Lautner who looked like a foot.
No, Taylor Lautner looks like an alpaca.
edit:
this is the best thing on the internet today; internet can close early.
To me he looks like a catfish man. A werecatfish. I recognize that parts of his face are attractive, but all together all I am getting is were-catfish. I think he’s talented? Uh, he has a nice voice? HE DOESN’T SWEAT MUCH AND IS NICE TO HIS MOTHER??
a werecatfish
This description is what my life has been missing.
I put a hyphenated and non hyphenated version in my comment because I’m not sure which is grammatically correct so you know, go with your heart on that.
Noticed and appreciated <3
It’s little things like this that set Toasters apart from the Rest Of The Internet.
Not quite apropos, but I can’t resist the urge to post:
He has no chin, and yet he has a chin. His face upsets me.
One of the inbetween stages of an animorphs cover. Or a tadpole that’s just starting to grow legs.
> One of the inbetween stages of an animorphs cover.
OH MY GOD YES
YURP
I once called him an “otter-looking motherfucker” on Twitter. The ire that came my way was random, yet oddly impressive.
HE IS, THOUGH
If they made Harry potter now, he would be Voldemort.
“Oh, I only play video games on my console. I never buy the PC version.”
“I heard Michael Bay is being tapped for the Black Widow movie.”
YOU GET OUT
THIS IS NOT OK. Absolutely the least ok thing I have heard ever.
I’LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL.
Why. Why would you do that? Who hurt you?
STOP THAT.
HOW VERY DARE YOU
My heart stopped a little bit when you said that.
I withstood the Wash reference, and the Tara reference, but this? You, madam (sir?) are a MONSTER.
You Monster.
oh my god i knew this was a joke but it still felt like the bottom of my stomach fell out
YOU MONSTER
NO. HOW COULD YOU EVEN…. NO.
I nearly upended my keyboard in my knee-jerk rage. WHY. WHO WOULD EVEN CONCEIVE OF SUCH A MONSTROSITY.
THIS IS BY FAR THE WORST
This is just cruel.
I INHALED SO SHARPLY AND ANGRILY OH MY GOD this is the best one. god. now im so mad and i can’t stop thinking about it, please god don’t let this happen. oh my god.
“I actually thought the Watchmen movie captured the spirit of the comics pretty well.”
You monster!
The sheer amount of awful contained within the Watchmen movie is one of my #1 drunk rant topics!
I only watched the first 1/3. We had to pause the movie to go up and put the children to bed for the second time. When we were done with the spawn, the husband and I looked at each other and just put the disc in the envelope and sent it back to Netflix.
There is a lot of awful in the Watchmen movie, but I have to admit that the villain’s plot in the movie was so much more sensible than the comic version.
Is it wrong of me that I can make this statement unironically?
Yeah, I actually… kind of like the movie? It’s a wholly different animal from the graphic novel. I like them both. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
This will just antagonize them, not devastate them.
I think Elementary is better because it’s not gigantically sexist and doesn’t perpetuate this “Sherlock is a sociopath and therefore REALLY COOL” nonsense.
Thank you for saying this! I loved the first season, but as soon as they made The Woman a prostitute I was like WRONG. And then it went downhill from there so fast I could feel my face flapping.
YEP.
Also I just really like Lucy Liu.
If only she could act! What a wonderful world this would be.
Some of these are simply glorious in how precisely you could pinpoint the devastation. Evil genius indeed, Mallory. Evil.
The below is more or less how I would react to all of these.
Brilliantly, cruelly evil. Well done.
R2: Feelings Droid is the best thing.
“Kristy Swanson was the best Buffy.”
Uh I kind of literally think this is true, come at me bro.
I liked Buffy the SHOW but I wasn’t a huge fan of Buffy the show character personally (although I respect her place in the history of tv badassery). I loved Movie!Buffy and wanted sequels.
I don’t honestly care about Buffy, I just enjoy trolling fans of Joms Wharton.
Now this I approve of. Joms Wharton, famed director of Horsefly and Miffy the Werewolf Snuggler.
Dammit now I can’t go back to eating my lunch because I’m laughing too hard and I’m worried about choking to my death on a sweet potato chip.
Oh God be careful, we did this on another thread a while back and it went on FOREVER, but to be honest I’ve never really been a big Wharton fan, though I do love Mapple’s The Avunculars and am really looking forward to Mapple’s Avunculars II: The Ape of Voltron.
I would honestly watch the shit out of a movie called The Avunculars. How cool would it be to have a movie about a bunch of uncles running around, fighting evil and buying nice presents for their nieces and nephews?
Don’t forget about the tragically short lived sci fi show, Flophouse.
I think I am in love with you
Don’t forget brickbuster megahero film DC’s The Revengemen
Wait but this is correct.
Priorities in life:
1) Graduate High School
2) Go to Europe
3) Marry Christian Slater
4) Die
PERFECT
RIGHT? Sarah Michelle Gellar can get OUT of my FACIAL.
“The second season of Twin Peaks was just more INTERESTING, right?”
Exactly zero of Mallory’s examples got to me but this, THIS is what would tip me over the edge.
The season 2 episodes leading up to catching the killer are vastly superior to season 1.
Watching Maddie *and* K’Ehylar on the same night was epic.
True story, pretty much if you just fast forward after the killer’s caught to the last Black Lodge sequence in the finale, you’re a-okay.
Elementary is better because it’s not a paean to Rich Narcissistic White Men & Sociopaths.
Yes. This. Elementary is actually the better show on many levels.
I feel like the BBC wants us to go, “but, like, he really cares for Watson” when B. Cumberbatch’s Sherlock does something terrible to his ostensible best friend/great love. He could kick poor John Watson in the face and the audience is meant to go “awwwwwww, tru luv!” The writing is the definition of an abusive relationship. Seeing Elementary handle Watson’s character so differently really cemented that for me.
No see now that he’s married to a murderous sociopath, the whole enabling-shit-behavior thing is just one of John’s deeply-ingrained, adorable personality quirks! Like the sweaters! Isn’t it charming!
I’ve missed the whole John’s wedding bit because I gave up on Sherlock after season 2 and the Irene Adler debacle* but that sounds dreadful.
*I swear, though, Moffat/Gatiss were going for a Wallis Simpson-dominatrix-meets-Sherlock-the-prince thing. Her hair/clothes/royal family connection and all that.
A murderous sociopath who still takes huge risks and gives up everything she’s ever had because a man looks at her all starry-eyed.
Isn’t it romantic when someone tells you that literally nothing about you as a person matters beyond the fact that you’re a Wife & (expectant) Mother?
Brings a tear to the eye, it does.
“Really, Jar-Jar wasn’t so bad”
See, that won’t devastate people, it’ll just get them angry.
Mallory’s list is about 50-50 between “traumatic memory of a beloved character dying” and “trolling nerds with controversial opinions” so this Jar-Jar statement seems on point if you ask me. Another fun one in the same vein could be “It totally makes sense that Greedo would shoot first, I’m glad Lucas clarified that in the new edit.”
Solid point! Also SHUT YOUR FACE, LUCAS, STOP MESSING WITH THINGS THAT AREN’T BROKEN.
“The first 10 minutes of ‘Up’ are fine, I guess, but really only serve to distract viewers from how poor the rest of the story is.”
TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW. *sniffles*
“I’m glad Jodorowsky’s Dune never got made.”
<starts singing “Little Soldier Boy” from “The Tales of Ba Sing Se”>
YOU’RE A MONSTER
How do you live with yourself, I mean honestly.
or reference Appa’s kidnapping in any way. Insta-weeping.
NOOOOOOPE
Nooooo! :'(
aaaaaaaaaa
most of these I recognized but are not about things I’m super invested in. But I am a god. damn. wreck. every time I watch this episode.
ETA: The Mary Sue (which, now that they’ve largely stripped it of the geek GIRL vibe and are just another dude-centric geek site now, I only read for these recaps, NOT THAT I’M BITTER) has a recap of the episode here.
The recaps are the only reason I read it now too (well, those and the Sailor Moon recaps) and also why this was fresh in my memory. (And I’m now sad too. PYRRHIC VICTORY.)
Perfect use of this gif, honestly
noooooooooooooo
So I don’t know if you’ve noticed this, but all of the vignettes are Iroh helping boys of different ages (the infant, the soccer players, the mugger), getting up to about the age Lu Ten was . . .
NEVER MENTION TALES OF BAH SING SE WHEN I”M AT WORK….
“But really, everyone knows that SuperS is the best, because who doesn’t love Chibi-Usa?”
(side-eyes my sister, whose favorite season is SuperS)
But season 4 has the best animation in the series! And FishEye!
(It’s not the filler, it’s the *prettily drawn* filler.)
Why would you do this, Mallory?
(When I clicked through the comments, the first thing I saw was the screenshot from The Body. It was not a pleasant surprise.)
I do not understand any of these references because I am too busy with cheerleader practice
Also: “Oh, you mean that space monster movie/ TV show/ book?”
I guess what I’ve learned today is that I am a very specific person. Who’s now very upset.
But, on the bright side, you have an A+ username, so that’s something!
Ok, Elementary people, come at me: Why do you like that show?
Not why is it better than Sherlock, ’cause I get people’s criticisms of Sherlock and why they might prefer Elementary’s take, but I just cannot. get. into. Elementary. I’ve made it through maybe half to 2/3 of season 1 and it’s just very “CBS Procedural” to me. Do I need to watch more or if it hasn’t clicked now, will it never?
I think it would have clicked for you by now if it was gonna. Did you enjoy House? Because Elementary is really helping me fill that House hole.
In related news: I love Hugh Laurie’s Twitter.
Essentially, I enjoy the main characters and find their larger story arcs rewarding. I also enjoy the little touches of whimsy that feel fun without being fan-pandery.
To be more specific: as I mentioned above, I like seeing some actual diversity in a supposedly “modern” version of Sherlock Holmes taking place in a major Western metropolis. I like seeing a passionate but platonic relationship between a man and a woman. I like that this Sherlock treats this Watson as a pupil he wants to train up to a colleague, rather than a perpetual fool to dance around and distract him until he figures everything out on his own. I like that Watson gets her own mysteries to solve sometimes. I like the fact that we see this Sherlock reading and researching all the time, as opposed to just magically having the world’s knowledge in his “mind palace.” And I find the exploration of addiction and recovery interesting, especially the sponsor relationship. On a superficial note, I also love the pretty people and the clothes they wear.
Re: the procedural thing, I consider Elementary a “laundry-folding show.” I can be doing some mindless task with my hands while the procedural stuff is happening, and then pause to enjoy the really great character moments when those are happening, and I am happy. If you haven’t gotten into it after a whole season, though, it’s probably just not for you!
Maybe I need to think of it more like that, because it is one of those things I feel like I should like, for all the reasons you mention! I mean, a female main character alone is an improvement over Sherlock. I like Lucy Liu’s Watson a lot, but haven’t warmed to Miller’s Sherlock quite as much, which I think is part of my problem. I should probably try to finish out the first season and then make a call.
I’m a big fan of the Doyle stories, and Johnny Lee Miller’s Sherlock is so much more like the source character. Doyle’s Sherlock is kind of a sweetie. He wants to do the right thing all the time and is more autistic spectrum than sociopathic. Also I don’t want to give any spoilers but the Irene arc in Elementary pretty much rocked my face off.
For me:
1. There are actually women in it.
2. This show is a look at what would happen if Sherlock Holmes decided to stop being such an utter shit and stop doing drugs. So, he starts to become more of a person instead of just the hyper logical piece of shit he’s kind of become in recent years. And that development is actually interesting to watch.
3. It’s not just rehashing the exact same cases from the books, but “modernizing” them, and doing it terrible like Sherlock does. (Sorry not sorry, Irene Adler in Sherlock is a fucking travesty, and that’s when I quit that show in a ball of flaming rage.)
See, to me, these are reasons I feel like I *should* like a thing. Progressive casting! Positive depictions of human coping skills!
But yeah. It’s a laudable show mainly for not doing several things wrong. What it actually does is — it’s a CBS procedural. There’s really no *there* there. Whenever I watch it, that’s the extent of my reaction: “Well, there was nothing really upsetting in that, I guess.”
I mean, I think it’s fair not to be into the procedural aspect of it. I wish it wasn’t so procedural as well, and it actually took me until like, the very end of the first season to really get into it. And it’s like a 22 episode show so I get if that is like, way too many episodes to catch someone’s attention.
I like Holmes’ narrative arc on Elementary, and by extension his relationship with Watson. It’s about him growing as a person and realizing that relationships with other human beings can in fact be useful and even healthy. I like the episode where he gets an NA sponsor. The cases can be very CBS procedural, you’re right, but the personal relationships are much more than that. If that doesn’t appeal to you it may not be your type of Sherlock story.
I think its relationship to the ACD stories is interesting. It’s interrogative, so it’s not wedded to reproducing their exact tone or atmosphere, but it teases out some of the underlying assumptions of the stories and plays with them in interesting ways. So, instead of just being like, “Sherlock can just do drugs and not be an addict and that’s fine, because He Is A Genius,” it looks at where that viewpoint would lead someone and how it would affect him. And instead of going, “Women are irrational and suck except for Irene Adler, because Sherlock would like to bone her,” it looks at why Sherlock would be attracted to that idea and how it can be used as a weapon against him.
The “We are a CBS procedural, tra la” aspects are pretty dull, though, not gonna lie.
I like the interactions between Watson and Sherlock in Elementary. Sherlock actually gets called out for his shit. I like the characters. The mysteries are a little more typical-mystery, but then I often find the Sherlock mysteries irritating – clever on the surface, but not holding up to further thought.
I don’t know. It didn’t really click for me in season 1–I didn’t dislike it, I just didn’t find it all that interesting–but I’ve warmed up to season 2. And yeah, like everyone else seems to be saying, it’s because of the characters. The cast is actually somewhat diverse and the characters are well-written and fully-formed. They each have their own arc and their own thing going on, and while Sherlock is certainly the sharpest of the bunch, the other characters aren’t too shabby themselves (Sherlock isn’t the only one who’s allowed to be smart, basically). I get a little tired of shows where some brilliant outsider puts all the cop-detectives’ skills to shame because every cop-detective in the history of ever is an incompetent turdbag according to Hollywood, but Bell and Gregson actually do some–gasp–deducting on their own! Like real, actual detectives do! Whoo! The procedural bit isn’t always super exciting, but they’re usually at least mildly interesting, though sometimes I like to play a game of Spot the Murderer the Second They’re Shown Onscreen because procedurals are so formulaic it’s often pretty easy to guess the murderer even without waiting to hear about the in-show clues (is it the first person they questioned or someone they found at the last second??). Although if you’re looking for a procedural that will actually pull you in: Broadchurch, man. SO GOOD.
I don’t know who this person is but I don’t think I like them that much and devastating them sounds lovely.
I DIDN’T WANT YOU TO GO EITHER.
-sob-
Ten is always apologizing to people, but that “I’m so sorry” to Donna at the end of “Journey’s End”… !
And:
“I just want you to know, there are worlds out there, safe in the sky because of her. That there are people living in the light, and singing songs of Donna Noble. A thousand, million light years away. They will never forget her, while she can never remember. But for one moment, one shining moment, she was the most important woman in the whole wide universe.” WEEPING.
i just… i just. i can’t, you know? words don’t even work anymore.
UGHHHHHHHHHH DONNA I have to go lay down and cry for the rest of the day now…
best companion or best companion? (THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION)
NONE.
Wrong. The wrongest. Martha 4 lyfe.
FULL BODY GOOSEBUMPS
Donna Noble is the best character there has ever been in Doctor Who and I will fight you over this if you disagree. That last Donna episode…I properly, no-holds-barred sob. For hours.
ugh god I can’t even. I was working (well, “working”) in a college dorm’s office one night, by myself, watching DW on Netflix for the first time. Some poor freshman who locked herself out of her room now has a great story about the girl at the desk who was sobbing so hard she nearly threw up.
Oh noooo!
I recently re-watched all (well, most) of “new Who” with my boyfriend who was watching it for the first time and I DREADED getting to that episode. I didn’t want to give too much away but I was like “uh, steel yourself – it’s about to get SAD”
Oh, hey, describe Battlestar Galactica (the reboot, obviously) as a space opera. Someone WILL pop a blood vessel in their eyeball, given the right crowd.
I find that tweeting “I have told the truth. I have told the truth. I have told the truth.” or simply “Kiss me, Hardy!” is a really good way to make girls cry. This is just a tip.
oh my god how dare you
YOU SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE oh god
fly the plane, maddie
OH GOD, FEELINGS 🙁
YOU MONSTER
STOP THAT RIGHT NOW.
*has chills*
Noooo
Well I totally hate you now.
OH GOD literally tearing up in my office how DARE YOU
YOU ARE THE MEANEST ONE HERE
“The window is always open.” WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
🙁 🙁 🙁
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnO.
Pistols at dawn, Madame. Pistols at dawn.
oh god oh god oh god why
Okay I would like context, I tried googling and I failed. It’ll bug me otherwise!
seems to be Code Name Verity by Elizabeth Wein.
I read this on a plane and wound up sobbing so much I had to put a shawl over my head.
I’m going to tell you Elementary is better because it’s true. It has nothing to do with Lucy Liu.
Gonna comic-nerd it up and add “Who the hell is Bucky?”
NOOOOO SHUT UP
I’m with you to the end of the line, pal
ZIP IT, SARA.
Stucky 4 Ever
My ship name of choice for them is Barnes & Noble.
(Ship name for Steve/Sam is Freebird.)
Ooooh I like that! Wish that would catch on instead of Stucky….
Aw man, I’ve been using Starbucks up until now.
I haven’t even seen Winter Soldier yet and this is all I can think about lately.
Assuming you mean Steve and not Stark, that is.
Yep, Steve, definitely!
“Millions more people saw X-Men: The Last Stand than will ever read The Dark Phoenix Saga. If you think about it, Ratner’s take is really the definitive one.”
“These elementary school kids don’t know who Boba Fett is, but they love General Grievous.”
They know who Boba Fett is! He’s that little kid in the second one.
“Jango’s son? You think *he’s* the most badass character in STAR WARS? C’mon, mister, he’s just a little kid! I’m bigger than him! If he went here to PS 206, he’d get the snot kicked out of him every day on the playground! What’s next, you’re gonna tell me your favorite characters are those dumb babies at the end of ‘Revenge of the Sith’? THEY ARE?!? Man, Billy was right. Old people are WEIRD.”
“I actually didn’t find that episode of Futurama all that interesting. It just made me want to rewatch The Umbrellas of Cherbourg.”
Early in college I kept trying to get my friend K to watch Futurama, like “it’s so fun! It’s so funny!” She finally sat down with me during adult swim to catch an episode.
Guess which fucking episode it was.
(As far as I know, K still firmly believes Futurama is Too Sad To Ever Risk Watching.)
See, that’s why we have Netflix now. You can sit her down and make her watch Brannigan Begin Again, Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love, How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back, The Devil’s Hands Are…
You know what, just skip that one episode and you should be fine. There are some others that are a little heavy on the schmaltz, but overall, your friend is scared of nothing.
You can basically just go around and say all kind of nonsense is canon, and it is guaranteed to piss nerds off.
I am always telling Sherlock people that I like Elementary more. I CANNOT STAND, Stephen Moffat, I think he is a fucking terrible writer, and I think he kind of ruined Sherlock Holmes.
Sure did for me! I have a hard time reading the original stories any more due to his garbage interpretations. (But the fault is mine for watching.)
Moffat is the literal worst.
I think I would be devastated by ALL of these had I been born 20 years later.
My examples would probably involve the seventies male “maverick” directors and Bob Geldof.
“You care about Fredo? Really?”
> “I think listening to chiptune is a sign of arrested emotional development.”
Now this is getting uncomfortably specific! You can drive the knife in a little deeper with some precision strike opinions like “I don’t see why the intro theme to Megaman 3 is so beloved” if the situation calls for it.
YIKES you got me with Megaman.
Maybe this was already said, but I’m glad they’ll never make a Good Omens movie because it will never be good enough!
True, true and valid.
Yes! And based on how horribly the movie versions of beloved books from my childhood have been adapted in the past, they would probably cast Otterface Bandersnatch as Crowley and I would SEETHE with rage.
Man, I LIKE Bandersnatch Cummerbund, and I still wouldn’t want to see him as Crowley. That’s just awful casting.
Is this where we can talk about who we should cast as Aziraphale and Crowley?
BBC RADIO 4 ARE DOING A SERIAL VERSION AND IT IS GOING TO BE WONDERFUL
They did a brilliant job on Neverwhere, and I trust them. Slightly miffed that the headline was about Newton Pulsifer, not (clearly best) Anathema, BUT STILL. Mark Heap! Serafinowicz!
Is there a way for interested Americans to get ahold of said recordings?
Audio programmes aren’t region restricted on the BBC iPlayer, which should have the episodes available for 7 days after they’re broadcast. Plus I’m sure it will go on sale at audible and similar.
The BBC has a radio version coming in December. Cast generally actors moderately well known in the UK but that I would guess most USians won’t have come across. Mark Heap and Peter Serafinowicz as Aziraphale and Crowley.
Absolutely my dream casting, and I don’t much care which way round it is.
I have fewer feelings about Aziraphale and Crowley than I do about Newton Pulsifer, who MUST MUST MUST be played by Richard Ayoade.
NO DOUBT
He’s being played by Colin Morgan in the radio adaptation, which I was fine with until I saw this suggestion which now makes me angry because it is so perfect
Stephen Fry as Jeeves.
There’s a post floating around on Tumblr suggesting Lupita Nyong’o as Aziraphale and Rihanna as Crowley. I am definitely more here for that than I am for anything starring Otter-Faced Motherfucker.
*clasps hands under chin, gazes rapturously*
I’m listening
Well, Pratchett and Gaiman have both expressed approval of a fan poster going around that had Bumblebee Cabbagepatch as Aziraphale and Tom Hiddleston as Crowley. (Or at least, they both approved the Aziraphale casting? I forget if they both saw the fan poster)
That said, I’d prefer to keep Crumblesnatch out of Good Omens altogether. I like him, but he’s too distinctive–I’d just be thinking “that’s Bandicoot Captaincrunch” the whole way through instead of focusing on my beloved characters.
Basically! I am totally fine with Hiddleston as Crowley, Candypatch is totally wrong as Aziraphale. FIX IT, INTERNET.
THIS IS MY NIGHTMARE!
SURELY ENGLAND HAS OTHER ACTORS. SURELY.
NO, JUST THE ONE
I really only think they have like 17 actors who are SUPER busy? That is what I have learned from watching entirely too much british nerd TV. I don’t think anyone’s managed to be in Game of Thrones, Doctor Who, Downton Abbey, Harry Potter, Love Actually, AND Sherlock, but the number of actors who have been in at least 3 of those particular bits of pop culture is vaguely amusing/surprising to me.
Liked for Bandicoot Captaincrunch. Can’t stop laughing.
I spent an inordinate amount of time on those names, so I’m glad it paid off.
Still hilarious, 9 weeks later.
🙂
I’m really pleased with how Brubaker handled Black Widow’s autonomy.
Alternately, to the end of the line.
Man, I read Widow Hunt a year after the fact, knew what happened, and *still* yelled GODDAMNIT, BRUBAKER at the end.
Every time my boyfriend’s mother tells me how much she loves the J. J. Abrams Star Trek movies I am sure she must be deliberately trolling me, but no. she honestly means it.
but also she is proud of the fact that she has only ever watched the original star trek and never bothered to give any of the sequel series a chance, so…I am just going to chalk it up to her not actually being aware of anything I like about Star Trek?
…Ianto… “You’ll forget me…”
(The image of Joyce on the couch made my whole body curl forward to protect itself. Thanks so much.)
Ianto 🙁 🙁 🙁
ianto no my bb nooooo
Ahrrrgggghhhh pain. My chest hurts.
“I’m really glad Barbara Gordon is Batgirl again.”
I just hissed out loud at that. I have feelings about Batgirls.
I hate you. I grew up with Babs, but Stephanie will always be the best Batgirl.
“Stargate: Universe is just too cheesy”
I often feel bad, or at least weird, about my apathy toward cultural stuff that people like me are supposed to be into, but right now I’m just soaring like an emotionally detached eagle above all these references I don’t get.
I’ve never watched Elementary, but by virtue of the fact that it is not the show Sherlock it must be better than Sherlock.
Moffat’s the worst.
Just show them a gif of Jesse Pinkman crying.
Read the voicemail message that he obsessively listened to over and over on that one episode.
“I think I actually prefer the movies to the books.”
“I thought Kiera Knightley was a perfectly cast Elizabeth Bennet.”
See, that doesn’t devastate, it just makes me comfortable with never speaking to you ever again, because you clearly have nothing of worth to say.
Finally on the second page, someone gets meeeee
Is it terrible that I think Rosamund Pike makes for a very sweet Jane Bennett? Or did I just get cut off?
“I wish Keira Knightley was in more period pieces, just in general.”
Was there a different version or something?
Are we comparing her to Jennifer Ehle? There were actually things about Knightley’s performance that I preferred. However I came to Austen late and the the 1995 miniseries even later, so my tastes are somewhat skewed.
All I know is it seems like whenever I express appreciation for Joe Wright’s Pride and Prejudice which I think is a fine interpretation of the story, other Jane Austen fans IMMEDIATELY insist that the only film version worth considering is the BBC’s 1995 Mini-series. While I understand some criticisms of Kiera Knightley’s portrayal, a lot of them were suspiciously based on factors like “she’s too skinny.” All in all I think it’s nice to have multiple portrayals of the same character to look at, and she brings good things to the table.
All right, so this is so late in Internet time I may as well not respond, but I am in agreement with you! Interestingly, I think Jennifer Ehle plays Elizabeth in the way I interpreted her when I was a teenager, while Keira Knightley seems to be more like my understanding of the character in my twenties. Which is to say, I sympathize with Charlotte Lucas a lot more than I used to.
Also, FOR ME, Matthew Macfayden > Colin Firth.
I did enjoy the recent film’s greater attention to Charlotte’s legitimate fears of becoming an unmarried woman in the late 18th century. The book didn’t have to explain to its audience how freaked out she must have been, so I do actually like the film’s departure from the book on that score.
Also agree! I feel like so much less of a pariah among Jane Austen fans now!
you LIE.
mallory is too good at this… 🙂
Yeah, that’s because Elementary is a much better show than Sherlock and has way more to do with the ACTUAL Sherlock Holmes instead of a sociopathic man-child.
If I completely vanished, what do you think my dog would do?
NOOOOOO
This was upsetting me, but then “Remind her that Elementary regularly pulls in more than twice the number of Sherlock viewers” pepped me right up.
You went there. You went there with the “I Don’t Want To Go”. Damn you, Mallory!
“Rose Tyler, I….”
Oh, Let Me In is a remake? Ugh, is in swedish? Let’s just watch the new one, it is just much better. It has proper american actors and you don’t have to read those annoying subtitles.
What, Starship Troopers is a satire of fascism? Have you been smoking? It is just a silly action movie!
Why would you play this “Grim Fandango” thing? The graphics look like shit. How many polygons does this “Manny” have, like, 12? You don’t even shoot anyone, just click on things, bo-ring.
All three of these got my hackles up.
Well, I figure that someone that makes that reference to That Mitchell and Webb Sound at the mere mention of Hufflepuff would be annoyed. I was shamefully beaten to it.
It’s literally the most interesting thing about Hufflepuff!!
No, it’s not! Once, one of us was killed. That’s something, I guess.
And a version of the second one was actually said to me by a man who really thinks that #gamersgate is a valid issue, unironically loves Ayn Rand but is somehow older than 17. Yes, I work in tech.
Oh god I am so sorry for you. Just, agghhhhhh.
I’ve read all the comments and your Let Me In one is probably the only one that would actually get to me.
If I may add: whisper SU-PER-MAN to them
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowhyyyyy.
Now to be joined with “We are Groot.”
Why? Why would you do this to me? I can’t even THINK about this scene without choking up. Going to report this to an administrator 🙁
After two pages of amusing comments that I variously agreed with or chuckled at, THIS is where I suddenly hissed through my teeth. And my head feels all congested and the text is getting swimmy before my eyes.
Dammit Vin Diesel. You should not have made me cry in TWO SEPARATE MOVIES.
OH GOD YOU DID IT YOU AND ONLY YOU WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY
YOU DON’T KNOW ME!
Play “Breathe Me.”
“Breathe Me” started playing when I was half-dressed in a fitting room last winter. I’m still wondering if I can sue the store.
What is that from? Oh god, I’m forgetting what’s it from but just thinking about the song chokes me up whyyyy,
Six Feet Under (I cried just typing that)
Cancelling Mega Man Legends 3 was definitely the right thing to do.
I for one am very excited for the Ayn Randian version of the HP epilogue. Bated breath.
I was not prepared.
“No, I’ve seen Firefly, I just didn’t like it.”
No joke, a girl I worked with in my retail job once said (while in the break room) “I don’t know, Firefly wasn’t that good.” Like half a dozen people, none of whom were in the conversation, all turned and were like “Whoa!” and “Not okay!”
If only people reacted that swiftly and decisively when they hear something, oh I don’t know, racist or misogynistic? Then we’d be in business.
::whispers quietly:: I agree with her. ::don’t tell anyone::
::whispers:: …me too.
with my Guided By Voices albums and underground 90’s Comix, I’m clearly more of a Chris O’Dowd in IT crowd than a Moss. BULLET DODGED!
Michael J. Fox is the only Teen Wolf I’ll ever need or care to watch.
CONFESSION: I was totally against ever watching the TV series (I MEAN, MTV?) because of that exact reason, but then I went and watched an episode, and I plunged into the black hole of Beacon Hills to never resurface again.
I’m going to be terribly unpopular, but I LIKED Irene Adler as a dominatrix, guys. I didn’t hate it. I didn’t find it misogynistic until the very end when Sherlock had to fucking show up and save her, and then I was all, “Welp, THAT part sucked.”
I agree – I thought it was awesome. I think this implication that making her a dominatrix/prostitute is automatically degrading her is really shitty. Sex workers can be amazing, empowered people as well, guys.
YEESSSSSSSSSS. I think you just articulated why that bothered me. A woman who is willingly self-employed as a sex worker, having consensual relations with partners who want to pay her because she’s a dominatrix is not shameful. If she was a prostitute who was under the thumb of a pimp I might feel differently about it, but she owned what she was, she ENJOYED it, and it made her powerful. I also thought it was a gorgeous counterpiece to Sherlock’s complete asexuality (at that point in the storyline, at least) and that it was great how they threw one another off their game at differing points.
Yeah, exactly, I totally agree. I also loved the character interplay too – and I think I am one of the rare people who didn’t mind her having actual emotions/being soft on Sherlock/etc. Again…the implication that she can’t be badass and have normal human emotions bothers me. I feel like a lot of the time female characters either have to be an emotionally dead motorcycle riding goal-focused heroine Lisbeth Salander, or they are relegated to the halls of fawning rom com leading ladies. In reality, even the most tough as nails woman still experiences fear, love, anxiety, etc, and I find it satisfying to see that depicted on screen. Irene Adler had those emotions but she was still incredibly powerful and smart and cunning, and I thought that was great.
As for the end where Sherlock rescued her…ughhhh. I choose to believe that never actually happened and was just Sherlock’s little fantasy. As if he could have flown to the middle east to rescue Irene and made it back without John noticing/getting worried, right? XD
Totally agree with everything here. And I never want to jump on those threads and be, “Yeah, it’s fine to hate this, but just hate the right things about it!” Having Irene Adler–“the only woman”–saved by Sherlock is just absolutely a travesty and for that we can rage endlessly. But until then I thought it was pretty fun and she by no means lacked agency.
Irene Adler was an opera singer in the books, which was considered scandalous at the time, I think dominatrix was an apt updating of her profession. The fact that she turned out to be Moriarty’s pawn, that Sherlock bested her because ~women are ruled by emotions and everyone (except John, clearly) secretly wants to bang Sherlock~, and that whole end scene is where Moffat destroyed her, IMO.
Yes, I can see how making her ruled by her emotions is a shitty thing. I can totally agree on that, upon reflection.
Dwayne The Rock Johnson would make a horrible Shadow.
“My favorite Whedonverse character? Hmmm. I’m going to go with Dawn – No, no, Connor.”
Not Riley???
reminding me of connor’s existence is grounds for immediate suspension of internet access
HEY I LOVE DAWN
Especially in season 7, where I pretty much hate every character that is NOT Dawn.
UGH DAWN IS THE WORST. I hate her so much. I can’t watch anything w/ Michelle Trachtenberg, even things I would ordinarily quite like (i.e. cheesy figure-skating movies).
I wish I could like this comment a million times.
(PS: my partner always rolls his eyes at me when I yell “SHUT UP DAWN” during basically every episode but especially during the musical — especially especially when she quotes Buffy’s line back at her in that horrible whiny lame pathetic parody…you know what I mean. And then we learned that there used to be cult screenings of the musical a la Rocky Horror where one of the audience instructions was to yell “SHUT UP DAWN!” in certain situations. I still feel gleeful, and vindicated (though devastated that these screenings are no longer held).)
In conclusion, Dawn is the worst. THE WORST. It is known.
“Season 4 of Community was perfectly fine, you guys.”
“Great news, there’s an shorter version of the Peter Jackson LOTR movies now!” (… actually, the only thing I really liked in the whole trilogy was the beacon-lighting chain, I guess I could just go to Youtube.)
The Year Of The Gas Leak
For a while I said that about Community, like a kid trying to wipe dirt of a dropped popsicle and convince himself it is still good. By the Comic Con episode, I couldn’t anymore. I just couldn’t.
After The Hobbit movies, nobody’s gonna be upset about shorter Peter Jackson Middle-earth movies. More like, “Great news, Peter Jackson’s going to make a 7-picture series of The Adventures of Tom Bombadil!”
Don’t you even say it. He will HEAR YOU and then that’s all we’ll be watching every winter for the next decade.
Yeouch, that S4 comment made me physically cringe rather than just mentally.
I read these like “haha nerds” & then I clicked on the link to “I Will Wait For You” & honestly, it’s just dusty in here.
Am I the only one that assumed that the “Your shirt…” link would take you to the clip of Casey confronting Gordon on “Sports Night?”
I am? Okay. Just checking.
You are not alone.
Also: “You are my favorite thing, Peter. My very favorite thing!”
There are about a dozen or so other Walter Bishop quotes that work as well.
Pretty much everything about Walter Bishop emotionally devastates me. I spent so much of that show yelling, “Can someone PLEASE give Walter a hug?!” I think he’s one of my favorite fictional characters of all time.
I should probably decide to finish watching the last season.
You can forget about the last season, and just go back and watch Season 3 again. I admit to a huge preference for parallel universe plots, so Season 5 was a disappointment,but even so,it inarguably sucked.
I loved the last season.
If you hated the “Letters of Transit” episode set in the future where The Observers are the bad guys, you will be predisposed to not liking it. As it is, there are a few filler episodes, a few pretty good episodes and one or two classics (definitely “Black Umbrella” with Walter on acid again & IMHO the series finale)
Walter Bishop’s existence is a trigger to me because he reminds me of my dad.
Who was a genius and now has brain damage, and walks and talks a lot like Walter does.
I was holding my infant son the other day and thought about that line and just WEPT.
“I think listening to chiptune is a sign of arrested emotional development.”
Totally acknowledging the truth of this while jamming to Mallory’s link. 😀
If you think about it, it really makes sense that Harry was a Horcrux.
I find the comments railing against Sherlock more devastating than any of the things in the list. Come on guys, Mark Gatiss is so adorably nerdy! And who could not love Martin Freeman? Y’all are getting distracted by Moffat and Cumberbatch. It can be a great show and still be rather whitemalepsychopathspectrum, just like (some of) the original stories.
People who google Martin Freeman racist or Martin Freeman rape jokes have a pretty easy time not loving him.
You’re right, I should change that to “who could not love Martin Freeman’s acting.” He is good at acting. (He must have some serious acting abilities since he appears charming and thoughtful and clearly isn’t.)
Well, that was upsetting. I hate that moment of (predictable) disappointment.
God, I hate Gatiss’ Deus Ex Mycroft. Also he’s on record for saying that their plotline for ‘His Last Vow’ was based on his idea that “The Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton” was just a gigantic lie that Dr. Watson made up which makes me SO MAD ON BEHALF OF A FICTIONAL CHARACTER.
why…why are you trying to hurt me??
Tell them you think Peter was better off with Faux-Livia. And if you want to twist the knife, suggest some of Walter’s problems were because of undiagnosed dairy intolerance.
I admit to a sneaking liking for Faux-Livia. Anna Torv was so badass in that role.
“I’m sorry I forgot the blankets.”
NO YOU ARE NOT A LEAF ON THE WIND NOBODY’S A LEAF ON THE WIND SHUT UP
“Always”
“I don’t know, British comedy just always seems a bit silly to me”
“How do you think Pushing Daisies would have ended?”
I’m glad they made more Jurassic Park movies. The first one was just so lacking.
Man, I laughed SO hard when that stupid horse drowned in Neverending Story. I mean, horses don’t get sad!
Personally, I think The X-Files got better after Mulder left.
The only thing good about Silent Hill 2 is Pyramid Head. The rest of it sucks.
I really think Final Fantasy improved once they were able to add voices.
Parasite Eve is great! I really liked The 3rd Birthday.
Oh, your Haro tattoo is cute! It is the one from Seed or 00?
> I mean, horses don’t get sad!
I think they’d throw you out of Narnia for saying something like that.
More Wesley/Fred SAD NONSENSE -start singing “You Are My Sunshine” I can’t take it. Also Cordelia’s death always pisses me off, but I don’t want to even start in on that
“I want to believe!”
yo, Elementary is better because the writers behind it aren’t misogynistic, homophobic assholes
also because of Lucy Liu
There was only one season of Clone High.
I SUPER AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT.
dammit I managed erase the memory of that Futurama episode from my memory because it was too devastating, but out of curiosity I looked up the song and it immediately retriggered, so apparently that’s the kind of person I am. THANKs Mallory.
I am a only slightly less hopeless Moss who would be so devastated to be compared with any of the gross people from that other show that nearly a year later I AM UPSET.