An Update To Wikipedia’s “List of people who disappeared mysteriously” -The Toast

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This is a list of publicly unexplained human disappearances, and of people whose current whereabouts are unknown or whose deaths are not substantiated, as well as a few cases of people whose disappearances were notable and remained unexplained for a long time, but were eventually explained, or the body found.”

  • 71 BC – Spartacus, leader of a slave rebellion against the Roman Empire. Although he was presumed killed in battle during the Third Servile War, his body was never found and his fate remains unknown.

probably dead by now though

  • 53 BC – Ambiorix was, together with Catuvolcus, prince of the Eburones, leader of a Belgic tribe of northeastern Gaul (Gallia Belgica), where modern Belgium is located. According to the writer Florus (iii.10.8), Ambiorix and his men managed to cross the Rhine and disappeared without a trace.

probably died sometime after 53 BC but before 1 BC, most likely near modern Belgium or possibly elsewhere

  • c. 96 – Apollonius of Tyana (Philosopher) First century teacher who was known throughout the Roman Empire vanished mysteriously while walking down the road at age 100.

he was very old and he died on the road somewhere

  • 108–164 – Legio IX Hispana (Ninth Spanish Legion) was a Roman legion stationed in Britain during the Roman conquest of Britain that disappears from surviving records without explanation in the second century. There are multiple conjectures regarding what happened to it and why no record of its fate has been found. Many references to the legion have been made in subsequent works of fiction.

whatever happened, at the very least, they are now dead; there is no chance they are still alive

  • 378 – Roman Emperor Valens was defeated by the Goths at the Battle of Adrianople (modern Edirne, Turkey). The body of Valens was never found.

killed by Goths, though

  • c. 834 – Muhammad ibn Qasim (al-Alawi) led a rebellion against the Abbasid Caliphate but was defeated and detained. He was able to flee but was never heard from again.

no one ever heard from him again because eventually he died, maybe right away or maybe a long time later but he definitely didn’t live into, say, the twelfth century

  • 1071 – Hereward the Wake was a formerly exiled Anglo-Danish minor noble rebel who led a huge revolt in the marshy region of Ely in England against the rule of William the Conqueror. Eventually betrayed by fearful local monks who led the Norman troops through secret trackways, many rebels were mutilated or executed, but Hereward escaped, never to be heard of again.

okay but he’s not still around

  • 1203 – Arthur, Duke of Brittany, an heir to the throne of England. He was supported by French nobility who did not want John of England as overlord. On 31 July 1202, while besieging his grandmother Eleanor of Aquitaine, Arthur was surprised and captured by John’s barons and imprisoned at Falaise in Normandy. The following year, Arthur was transferred to Rouen and then vanished mysteriously in April 1203.

dead now

  • c. 1291 – Vandino and Ugolino Vivaldi, Genoese sailors and explorers lost while attempting the first oceanic journey from Europe to Asia.

probably dead somewhere in the ocean but absolutely dead

  • 1412 – Owain Glyndŵr, the last native Welsh person to hold the title Prince of Wales, instigated the Welsh Revolt against the rule of Henry IV of England in 1400. Although initially successful, the uprising was eventually put down, but Glyndŵr disappeared and was never captured, betrayed, or tempted by royal pardons.

right but that didn’t make him immortal. he was never captured but he did eventually die. maybe in 1414? or some other, similar year

  • 1483 – The Princes in the Tower, Edward V of England and Richard of Shrewsbury, first duke of York (9), sons of King Edward IV of England and Elizabeth Woodville, were placed in the Tower of London (which at that time served as a fortress and a royal palace as well as a prison) by their uncle Richard III of England. Neither was ever seen in public again and their fate remains unknown. The remains of four children have been found which could be the princes, but they have not been subjected to DNA analysis to positively identify them.

their fate is that they died

  • 1499 – John Cabot, Italian explorer, disappeared along with his five ships during an expedition to find a western route from Europe to Asia.

died somewhere on the way to Asia

  • 1501 – Gaspar Corte-Real, Portuguese explorer, disappeared on an expedition to discover the Northwest Passage from Europe to Asia. Two of his ships returned to Lisbon, but the third, with Gaspar on board, was lost and never heard from again.

update: he’s dead now

  • 1502 – Miguel Corte-Real, Portuguese explorer, disappeared while searching for his brother Gaspar. Like his brother, he took three ships, and as with his brother, the ship with Miguel on board was lost and never heard from again

like his brother, he’s dead

  • 1578 – Sebastian of Portugal, Portuguese King, whose body was never found after the Battle of Alcácer Quibir; many Portuguese came to believe that Sebastian had survived the battle and would return to claim his throne. The belief arose that Sebastian could return at any moment to help Portugal in its darkest hour

well not now he can’t, no matter how long he maybe survived after that battle, it definitely hasn’t been for “secretly 500 years”

  • c. 1590 – The Roanoke colonists disappeared, becoming known as the Lost Colony. On 18 August 1590, their settlement was found abandoned.

someone found out what happened to them, I forget what but we definitely found out

  • 1696 – Henry Every was an English pirate who vanished after perpetrating one of the most profitable pirate raids in history; despite a worldwide manhunt and an enormous bounty on his head, Every was never heard from again.

then he died

  • 1788 – Aimée du Buc de Rivéry, daughter of a wealthy plantation owner on the French island of Martinique. After being sent to a convent school in France, she was returning home in July or August 1788 when the ship she was on vanished at sea. It is thought that the ship was attacked and taken by Barbary pirates. It has been suggested that she was enslaved and eventually sent to Istanbul as a gift to the Ottoman sultan by the Bey of Algiers. It is unconfirmed if she was the same person asNaksh-i-Dil Haseki, consort of the sultan

either that’s what happened to her and then she died, or she died before any of that and it happened to someone else

  • 1792 – James Harrod, 46, an early explorer of the areas west of the Appalachian Mountains prior to their settlement by European-Americans, never returned from a trip to western Kentucky from Harrodsburg. Theories about his fate range from murder at the hands of his companions or Native Americans in the area, to accidental death or a desire to abandon his wife and family.

he died probably somewhere in Kentucky or elsewhere, but he’s certainly dead now

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Well, thanks for clearing that up.
FREE YA IDEA IN THE VEIN OF THE FACE ON THE MILK CARTON

Bored teen explores this Wikipedia page only to find an entry that sounds suspiciously like themself.
4 replies · active 459 weeks ago
Yet another "and here I though I was the only one that went through life doing that" moment brought to you by The Toast.
Wow, I was literally looking at that page an hour ago (via Manic Street Preachers>Richey Edwards).
Mallory, you know my SOUL.

With every year that passes, it becomes more and more of a certainty that the Zodiac Killer is dead, and the chances of us figuring it out dwindle ever lower. Isn't that the biggest relief and simultaneously the biggest disappointment in the world? All these mysteries are limited by the PUNY HUMAN LIFESPAN.
17 replies · active 459 weeks ago
"formerly exiled Anglo-Danish minor noble rebel" has a lovely ring to it.

I've been reading a book about Elizabethan England's links to Islamic rulers which covers the Battle of Alcácer Quibir. Pretty sure there's an eyewitness account in it where someone's like 'Ah it was sad to see the bodies of three dead kings' which is maybe a fabrication but also possible evidence that people did see Sebastian's body. Anyway, like you say, dead now.
8 replies · active 459 weeks ago
If there didn't die before, they're certainly dying now. 2016 is a brutal year and we'll all be lucky to make it out alive.
2 replies · active 460 weeks ago
I can't be sure about the rest but Owain Glyndwr is just biding his time ok
20 replies · active 459 weeks ago
If historical folk disappear mysteriously like these people did, I usually just assume they became vampires.
9 replies · active 459 weeks ago
Re: Roanoke colonists - they ran out of food and started starving to death. Eventually the survivors joined the nearby Native American settlement.
9 replies · active 460 weeks ago
I have spent way too much time in wiki spirals starting on that page but this is definitely true
I AM SPARTACUS

I remember the Third Servile War, I remember it like it was just yesterday. If anything it was twice as servile as the first two, it may have been the most servile war in history. We'd shout over the battlements, "We've all decided to surrender over here, we simply can't imagine fighting against such a valorous and well-ordered force."

And they'd shout back, "Not at all, please allow us to surrender to you, it would be the greatest honor imaginable to bend our knees to such impressively armed and hygenic foes."

"Goodness, our blushes! In all sincerity, we can't bring ourselves to raise a hand against you. Instead of fighting, what do you say we all fade away mysteriously out of the annals of history?"

"Splendid! We'll bring pie!"

I still have flashbacks about it sometimes, if it's no bother.
3 replies · active 460 weeks ago
All turned into vampires, survived to present day, belong to RPG group whose average character level is in the four figures.
2 replies · active 460 weeks ago
Unfortunately, Owain Glyndŵr survived long enough to be the premise for a series of deeply annoying YA novels.

Spartacus is 100% dead, though.
19 replies · active 460 weeks ago
SPOILERS THEY WERE ALL THE ETERNAL COMPTE

on a sadder note, in an era where everyone is carrying a radio they can use to talk to anyone else in the world from almost anywhere, I now assume "right but he's probably dead though" immediately on hearing a missing persons report =
11 replies · active 460 weeks ago
"Hereward the Wake" is a great name, though.
4 replies · active 459 weeks ago
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serendipity · 460 weeks ago

I thought I remembered hearing on Rex Factor that John killed Arthur of Brittany? Maybe even by his own hand? Are any historian toasties able to comment on this?
4 replies · active 459 weeks ago
Do whatever you want, they're super-dead.
3 replies · active 460 weeks ago
>well not now he can’t, no matter how long he maybe survived after that battle, it definitely hasn’t been for “secretly 500 years”

I'd like to point out that there's a whole folk thing about him showing up in Portugal to sort out the country, a bit like the British thing about King Arthur coming back

or maybe that's what you were referring to with the "secretly 500 years" thing?
1 reply · active 460 weeks ago
WHOA hey SPOILER ALERT Mallory seriously wtf
2 replies · active 459 weeks ago
My theory is that these are all the same eternal being. I mean, did anyone ever see all these people in the same room at once? Right??
8 replies · active 460 weeks ago
I spent a whole summer once reading about cases like this from the late 19th/early 20th century. I know that the people involved are probably dead now, but it still creeped me out. It's even creepier when you're reading about women and half of the theories are about abortions gone wrong, shitty boyfriends, serial killers, and/or gangsters who had a grudge against their boyfriends.
4 replies · active 459 weeks ago
There's a street in my town named Corte Real, so based on this totally conclusive proof it's obvious that the Corte-Real explorer-brothers decided to emigrate to unexplored northern Canada and leave over-civilized Europe behind them for good.
2 replies · active 460 weeks ago
Last week I learned that that there was a Welsh MP who disappeared after being swept out to sea in a balloon. From Wikipedia: "The crew tried to descend near Bridport but the balloon hit the ground so hard that Templer was thrown out. As a result the balloon rose again, Agg Gardner fell out from a height of about eight feet and broke his leg, and Powell, remaining in the car, was swept out to sea to the south east. He was last seen waving his hand to Captain Templer and nothing more was heard of him." Amazing.

(Wikipedia has a whole list of missing aircraft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missing_air... Also, the article for "Records of members of Parliament of the United Kingdom" is amazing. Want to know who the heaviest-ever MP was? This will tell you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_of_members_...
18 replies · active 459 weeks ago
HDU, Owain Glyndŵr is definitely still alive and still writing letters to the king of France
"Hereward the Wake" is the BEST name.
Why the certainty here, but only a careful hedging of bets w.r.t. dogs and cats throughout European art history? What are you not telling us?
1 reply · active 459 weeks ago
I just guffawed at this, in part because it reminds me of watching old movies with my mom and her charming habit of saying, of any dog featured in the movie, "he's definitely dead now."
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Borednow · 460 weeks ago

These theories all severely ignore the possibility of time travel. I firmly believe that many mysterious old people are really time travelers who having found themselves displaced from their original wars settled down to peaceful lives in small towns secure in the knowledge that their battles were won centuries ago.

That or aliens.
2 replies · active 459 weeks ago
You missed a golden opportunity to say "but Real talk, he's totally dead now."
I've always felt that whatever the historical record the Ninth Spanish Legion was just a big accounting fraud.
8 replies · active 459 weeks ago
Real disappointed Theodosia Burr is not here, really wanted to hear Mallory's opinion on her deadness
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Appolonius of Tyana is currently touring with the Circus of Dr. Lao, if I recall correctly.
c. 1291 – Vandino and Ugolino Vivaldi, Genoese sailors and explorers lost while attempting the first oceanic journey from Europe to Asia.
"...Couldn't we just walk?"
"For shame, Ugolino! Where is your spirit of adventure?"
"It just seems like it makes more sense to walk."
"We wouldn't be able to carry much liquor by ourselves, now would we?"
"Horseback, then."
"Ugolino, tell me: where are our horses?"
"Ah. We sold them, for liquor. I'd forgotten."
"So we have no horses, but what DO we have?"
"A ship, which we were unable to sell for liquor, because it is so incredibly unseaworthy."
"Exactly! You see the beauty of this plan! Come, let us prepare for our voyage!"
"Which way are the docks from here?"
"...Do you have your compass with you?"
"I have... a bottle."
"Give it here... The bottle says we go this way."
1 reply · active 460 weeks ago
One of my favorite parts of the movie Barry Lyndon is the epilogue:

"It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarrelled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now."
But what matters is that FIRST THEY LIVED, amirite?

(I mean, they did, presumably.)
OK BUT SOMEONE GIVE ME A GOOD REASON that we haven't tested the children's bodies (worst thing to type ever but oh well) so see which if any are the Lost Princes? This is EMOTIONALLY IMPORTANT TO ME to know for sure.
12 replies · active 459 weeks ago
Personal headcanon is Owain Glyndŵr turned into a corgi and is very happy somewhere.
3 replies · active 459 weeks ago
This is why you don't besiege your grandma, right? Because she will make you disappear?
2 replies · active 460 weeks ago
Too soon.

(My favorite is *Update*)
"probably dead by now though"

This made me giggle snort in public.
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Grotesquerie · 460 weeks ago

NEVER NAME YOUR PRINCES ARTHUR

AARGH
Maybe they were part of the 4400? Anyone?
Gaspar & Miguel Corte-Real also had crews who were never found, and maybe they're still alive?
I was reading this with my sister and the thing we were most amazed by was how many different ways you could say "he/she died" and it still was amusing so props for that :D
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