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tumblr_mjvwpz6rAB1rkbadso1_500There are a handful of truly historic meetings in the theatre world. When Rodgers met Hammerstein. When Lunt met Fontanne. When legendary American playwright Eugene O’Neill met The Bottle.

On this sure-to-be-historic day in July 2007, I stand outside the Eugene O’Neill Theatre on West 49th Street. I am waiting to meet the original Broadway cast of Spring Awakening, including flawless Delaware cherub (and my future husband), John Gallagher, Jr., and both our lives are about to change forever.

You see, it is extremely important that John-gal-ger-junior (spoken reverently and breathlessly, always) know how big a fan I am. Ever since I saw the screaming but obviously sensitive lad on Good Morning America, I have just had a feeling we’d click. I mean, I am usually too terrified to befriend men and also strangers in general, but this would be different.

Getting signatures from the other cast members puts me on blissful autopilot: make eye contact, pass playbill, pay compliment, give thanks, and move on. I’m starting to feel like an old pro when he finally walks out.

He is literally inches away. I soak in all the details: a Remington Steele t-shirt, red flannel, hair I could easily run my fingers through—

“Focus, Maddie. Should I ask him about Rehoboth? Nah, he probably thinks his own beach is boring. Oh, I could talk to him about his band, Old Springs Pike. No! They broke up recently. Ahh, I hope my hair’s not the mess I think it is. Oh, here he comes—“

“Hiiii,” I drone for an eternity, eyes fluttering from him to ground to sky. “You were so good.”

“Thank you,” he says, as if I’m the only one he’s ever said it to. “Thanks for coming out to see the show.”

“It was great. Could I take a picture with you?”

“Sure, of course.”

My mother is armed and ready. I turn myself halfway around, not sure how to pose. I feel him crouch down a little, his right arm resting on the gate and brushing for one fantastic second against my left arm. I am imagining what the picture will look like even before my mother takes it. I know it will be going in my wallet and on my wall and in photo albums of the future.

Nothing in my life is going to top this moment.

*

Not all fans cling to celebrities so fervently, but it’s easy to understand those of us who do (or did). In the realm of film and theatre, actors are the Front Men. They are the visible package, symbolizing that product we love.

Love of the individual character and/or actor is so visceral that it can even substitute for love of the work as a whole. I have seen countless other Spring Awakening productions, and eventually figured out I didn’t like the show. I just liked that original cast. I reread my old journals about the 2007 production, and I’d actually already recognized this then. Legitimately the nicest things I have to say about it are “[The Tony Award for Best Musical] might have been a little generous,” and “it’s really not as bad as the rep it gets.”

Not that it’s bad to enjoy something just because you like the cast. I do that all the time in the film world. Theatre, however, is another story.

I never thought my “theatre bug” would extend beyond high school drama club and Broadway musicals until I got to college. Content to become the Next Great American Young Adult Novelist, I auditioned for a mainstage Theatre Department show on a total whim. (Oops.) Many productions later, I’m proud to say that I’m pursuing the arts professionally.

But while I have gained a renewed passion for the stage, I’ve also lost my fan perspective. Having been on the other end of things, I know the truth. I know what it’s like to be a tired actor, or a shy writer. I know that it is impossible for my former fiancé, John Gallagher, Jr., to love and remember us all equally. I know that sometimes fans are the last people you need to hear from as an actor. And speaking for myself, from the audience perspective, I know that no one actor can be separated from the whole show.

Which leads me to the absurd and frenzied blob I encountered after seeing Of Mice and Men a couple months ago, starring James Franco and Chris O’Dowd.

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It was not by choice. I attended the performance with more celebrity-inclined family members, including my little sister, who was in it to win it with Instagram filters all pre-picked out.

Some in the post-show stage door throng clutched pristine copies of Palo Alto, and almost all clutched smartphones and practiced their selfie shot. There were many false starts as the remaining non-“name” ensemble members darted out from the stage door, quick to find a less shrill sidewalk (as did O’Dowd, I learned later). But finally, the big moment arrived. The erupting squeals were overwhelming, and though I couldn’t see a damn thing, that fever pitch confirmed to me that James Franco was now among us.

“Turn around and have your phones ready,” the beefy, Yankees-capped Franco entourage instructed. “We gotta keep the line moving. He’s not gonna wait for you.”

“Is he even gonna talk to anybody?” I asked no one in particular.

“It’s so nice that he’s doing this,” said one of the aforementioned Palo Alto possessors.

I found it hard to see over the multitude of arms that were reaching back and out over the gate. They were ready. They were so ready.

“I hope he likes it on Instagram!”

“Let me take a test shot.”

“I wanna get Leighton Meester next.”

I finally saw him, trucker hat pulled down, black shades obscuring the trademark Franco Crinkles, and of course a Daniel Desario-esque black leather jacket. 

My sister was up front. I handed her my playbill right before her turn. She offered it to him, or probably to the entourage, slowly, trying not to be rude.

“You better hurry up if you want the picture,” said James Goddamn Franco to my little sister while scrawling something indistinct and silver on the page. She hurried the fuck up. Snap. A memory for life, the pinnacle of fan interaction. At least if the sole criterion for that interaction is: Actor showed up.

*

Some might think the message I’m angling for here is “Look how much more gracious and well-behaved my perfect flawless, but tragically former fiancé John Gallagher, Jr. was,” but they’re only half-right. Pulling back the curtain to glimpse an actor’s true self is always risky. But again, that’s only if communing with the actor is your primary objective. I was disappointed by my Of Mice and Men experience because I paid top-dollar for an average show, not because it turned out that James Franco was underwhelming in person.

tn-500_htg26And lest you think that I have smugly evolved past any appreciation for actors, fangirly or otherwise, here’s the counterweight. I love Steven Boyer. I love watching Steven Boyer act so much that I plan whole weekend visits to New York around seeing him perform. I love telling people about Steven Boyer so much that I pause The Wolf Of Wall Street during the scene when he shows up as an extra to explain that these five seconds of screen time don’t do him justice. You most likely don’t know who Steven Boyer is unless you are interested in NYC theatre, but rest assured, Dear Reader, I love him enough for the both of us.

So I feel perfectly comfortable telling you that even Steven Boyer’s considerable talents can’t save a show I otherwise find lacking, or persuade me to go see a show I have middling to no interest in. I’ve become a fan because he is so often paired with amazing material, but I still know my own taste. I’m not going to follow him to every Shakespeare production under the sun, and I’m certainly not going to attend a production with casting I consider racially tone-deaf just because he happens to be in it.

But I would go watch him play a chimpanzee, and in fact I did. Which leads me to my last and most rewarding fan encounter.

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It is March 2013, the eve of my final spring break in college. A few of my close friends and our mutual mentor have attended a brilliant play loosely based on the chimpanzee that mauled a Connecticut woman in early 2009. One Mr. Steven Boyer is the lead. The four of us giddily stumble out into the East Village, thirsting for a bar.

“Where did the producers say the cast was gonna be?”

“You wanna go there?”

“Why not?”

I’m reluctant, due more to my own shyness than any lofty “let’s not bother them” motivation. After all, we had been invited to come hang out after the show.

We order a pitcher of Stella and lord over a booth. We hope our mentor will come out to hang with the kids. We (I) also hope he can introduce us to his good friend Steve. And we hope it happens before any of us gets properly sloshed.

Sloshed is definitely the state I am in when Steven Boyer stops by our table. I deliver my same unremarkable, “Hiiiii, you were so good,” with less enunciation than usual. I learn that he recently became engaged to a woman in my mentor’s playwriting group. I ask him how many videos he watched to get into the role of Trevor the chimp—the answer is: a lot. I think we try to engage him in a Tarot reading; he declines.

The interaction isn’t long. I don’t even tell him my name. But it’s organic, and genuine, in a way the stage door line will never be. The stage door line is a place to see your idols—a place to idolize. But now I’m trying to be interested in people. It’s why I go to the theatre. And it’s why, if I ever meet another celebrity, it will be somewhere I can treat them as a person.

Maddie Gaw is a transient theatre maker currently residing in Ohio. She indulges her fangirly nature by tweeting at well-known playwrights, but mostly she tweets about Animorphs.

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Hold. UP. You are MARRIED TO MORITZ???

.....and that's what I get for being too excited and incredulous to keep reading.

ANYWAY. Great piece.
At Montreal Comic-Con last year I met some of the dudes from Battlestar Galactica. It was the first time I'd been to a con and for some reason I hadn't expected the celebrity guests' booths to be RIGHT THERE. I rounded a corner after purchasing a unicorn head mask and saw that Edward James Olmos was like 20 feet away from me. I started hyperventilating and had to sit on the floor for a few minutes until I calmed down.
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The BSG cast members are the nicest fame-ish people I've ever met! Jamie Bamber 1) is a bad dancer and 2) introduced himself to a friend of mine and asked for a picture with her after I told him she wanted to meet him but probably wouldn't approach him on her own.
Olmos is awesome! He came into a Starbucks I was at once and just kind of did that celebrity secret smile when I noticed him.

My very first comic-con celeb photo was with Michael Hogan and he was completely the best. He was so kind and hugged me really tight (kind of unexpectedly but not weird). Ughhhh I love you BSG peeps.
Michael Hogan was in my first comic-con celeb photo too :D



It is a source of eternal shame to me that I couldn't think of anything smarter to say to Helo than "You're tall!"
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Femaelstrom · 545 weeks ago

EJO follows everyone back on Twitter. I know it doesn't really mean anything, but I definitely freaked out a little when I saw that Admiral freakin' Adama had followed me.
I stayed in the same hotel as Tom Hanks once. I was standing in front of the elevator doors, waiting impatiently, and when they opened up the car was full. Three people and TONS of luggage. So I said "Go ahead". I don't do crowded elevators. As the doors closed he looked up and at me. I turned to my friend and we both said "OH SHIT" and hustled down the steps to the lobby.

I'd like to tell you that he was so impressed with my not getting on the elevator that he was gracious and wonderful in the lobby. That's not true. He was irritated by us. You can see it in the photo we begged out of him. And, of course, my eyes are closed in said photo.

Because of course they are.
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This is so depressing because I always assumed, naively, that Tom Hanks would be one of those Good Guy Celebs (TM) that would be happy to meet a friend. Damn it all.
Aww, Spring Awakening came out when I was in college in NYC and I went SO. MANY. TIMES. I didn't really know anything about Theatre ™ when I arrived and didn't even know Stage Door-ing was a thing at first?? It always seemed like a weird Ultra Fan experience, but the Spring Awakening kids were typically sweet since they weren't yet Celebs—that Franco story sounds blech.

Anyway. That original cast was sooo good, and I always feel like a proud mama bird when I see them prospering elsewhere now. Spread your wings, Skylar Astin, and flyyy!!!
Now I've got "Don't Do Sadness/Blue Wind" in my head.
As a fellow former-fangirl-turned-current-theatre-worker, I loved this. Thanks!
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A) This is awesome and true and my teenage-self is SO jealous of your stage-dooring. That was always my dream. One time I almost managed to stagedoor Patti Lupone and Mandy Patinkin, but we waited at the wrong door because we were naive suburban children.

B) I'm on the same page now about feeling so arms-length from the fangirling. Recently, a web series shot in Toronto became really big with the Tumblr crowd, and bearing witness to people's fanaticism over achingly ordinary people I know or knew in real life is bizarre, to say the least. I'm happy for their success, but I almost feel bad for the cast -- I can't imagine any of them know what to do with the fan response.
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LadyBaneOnMobile · 545 weeks ago

"recently, a web series shot in Toronto became really big with the Tumblr crowd"

You wouldn't happen to be talking about Carmilla, would you?
You know the Carmilla cast?
omg! I hope that's really what this is referring to! I just binge-watched (does that term apply if it's like 45 minutes?) the whole series on Saturday and loved it.
...No? Okay, parts of, KIND OF. I work at a theatre company that currently employs one cast member and I met for the first time last week. Another went to my high school, and another I went to camp with for several years (and actually I had no idea she was even in acting). And six degrees, one of my good friends works with another cast member.

Seriously, Toronto is the smallest town.
Ah, stagedooring. I think it's a rite of passage for theatre folk! I also went from being the fan at the stage door to being one of the disappointing other non-actor people who also have to exit by that means. Nothing like a whole crowd watching you go home from work! I am now glad that I never took photos with actors, just collected autographs, since there's a very real chance that any of them could be my coworkers in the future.

(It wasn't Spring Awakening as the gateway drug to the stage door for me, it was Wicked. I know I know I know.)
are you trying to tell me that benedict cumberbatch is not going to immediately fall in love with me when we meet-cute at the stagedoor after hamlet next year?

because that's clearly not true
All of my stage-dooring experiences have involved a) very sweet, flattering comments ('your rendition of "Cabaret" made my girlfriend cry!') or b) comments that sound great in my head but are actually sort of rude (to someone playing Thenardier: 'you were utterly loathsome!' *he looks up, shocked* '...in the best possible way!'). There appears to be no middle ground, and I dearly wish there was.
I've been in the theatre industry for So Many Years™ and I have only genuinely freaked out once: when Tim Curry touched me on the shoulder, and looked deep into my eyes to say "hello" when a friend introduced us when I was backstage at Spamalot.

But I, too, Maddie, have had a crush on JGallz since Spring Awakening and would 100% try too hard to be funny/probably be too mean to him if we ever worked together. HE IS JUST SO CUUUUUTE
I actually went to Spring Awakening, with the original cast (before I realized it was a GARBAGEMONSTER SHOW written by GARBAGEMONSTERS) but my dad- already blisteringly uncomfortable because I did not tell him about the onstage simulated sex beforehand- dragged me away before I could stagedoor. However, on the same trip, I DID stagedoor at Les Mis and ended up getting to go backstage because the friend I was with was friends with Gavroche's mom. We even took pictures of me hanging off the barricade set, but it was too dark to really see anything.

(I also saw Newsies- both at the Paper Mill run and the Broadway opening- and when I stagedoored at Broadway, one of the cast members said "oh, I thought you looked familiar!" when I mentioned seeing the show in New Jersey. It was the highlight of my life thus far, until my mom said "you know he's probably just saying that to be nice.")
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You know, maybe he wasn't just saying that to be nice. I took my (now) brother-in-law to see Rent when he was about 19, in the lotto seats up front, and he LOVED IT. Apparently he had a lot of facial expression reactions to the show, and then one of the actors ended up on our subway home and was like "hey dude, I saw you out there! Looked like you had a good time!" So...they do notice and remember!
I did think that, after I'd calmed down a bit- the shininess of the moment was just diminished a bit by my mom being a jerk.

(I also caught the eye of the actor playing Prior in Angels in America when I saw it over the summer- I was sitting in the second row- and immediately panicked because what do I do? Do I smile at him? Is this an appropriately smiley moment? WHAT DO I DO WITH MY FACE?)
Why GARBAGEMONSTERS? I am so out of the loop.
Well your mileage may vary, but basically I think the musical glorifies/excuses rape (Melchior pushes himself on Wendla who 1. initially says no and 2. has no idea what sex is so she can't offer meaningful consent anyway) in the name of some kind of crap message about THE IMPORTANCE OF SEX ED which doesn't even work because hello their heroic lead is still a rapist. Also they decided to include a subplot about two of the girls being molested by their fathers (which was not present in the original play and is dropped entirely after they sing a song about it so I guess THAT'S not important) AND the relationship between Hanschen and Ernst- which is very sweet and tender in the original play- is turned into Hanschen being the worst kind of predatory gay stereotype and Ernst essentially being manipulated/lured into a relationship with him. (Here's their song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1_vAqxVXAc)

tl;dr all the changes they made to the original play were for the worst, it reads like the absolute worst kind of sex positivity ("sex for everyone! oh yeah and consent I guess") and every time I see the guy who wrote it boasting about how he's CHANGING BROADWAY and SAYING IMPORTANT STUFF I want to grind my teeth.
I completely understand what you mean! I love the songs, but it does bother me a lot with the creepy consent issues. Though I do think it depends on the director, because I have seen both the original cast, and the one with Hunter Parrish as Melchior. They framed it much differently where Wendla is a much more eager participant- which I appreciated.

Although I think with Melchior violently raping Wendla in the original play serves as a cautionary tale- your son will turn out to be a rapist and get a girl pregnant who will eventually die from a botched abortion. They kept the original rape scene when they were first workshopping it, but changed it. Melchior is still a rapist though and that makes me sad.
I stage-doored Spring Awakening twice, and consequently have a very lovely picture of me and my sister with Jonathan Groff in GIANT PUFFY COATS (JGJ had left the cast by then). And somewhere in the depths of the shit I've moved between houses is a picture of me with Neil Patrick Harris when he was in Assassins, which I saw on a high school theater trip.

I've lost my taste for stage-dooring these days. I don't have the patience to stand around and then risk making an idiot out of myself. I've had a few celebrity encounters at Comic-Con that have proved that I'm not to be trusted around people whose work I love too much. Witness: me LITERALLY walking into Neil DeGrasse Tyson and stammering out something about him being my hero while my roommate kindly positioned me for a photo.
I love theatre and I go all the time and have worked off and on in theatre since college and I can interact totally ably with actors in a professional capacity.

But I can't stage-door.

Nothing in the world makes me more antsy or irritable or just not the best me I can be. I can pull it together to interact with the actor, but I just hate the whole experience. Last time I stage-doored it was under duress (a cast member's mother was my boss and I wanted to say hi) and I was fairly tipsy from two large glasses of wine in the show which, unusually for me, was making me emotional and belligerent (usually I am mellowly and cheerfully tipsy) and I just was jumping out of my skin with impatience and anxiety and ugh. I ended up pissing my parents off so much that they ditched me in Times Square and I left to, like, go weep and get drunker or something. It was definitely my most shameful evening in the last several years and it was definitely a good thing I didn't actually interact with my boss's daughter. Stage-dooring is not for me.

(Normally it is not so bad. Normally I just grimace a lot and try not very graciously to convince my dad and sister that we could be doing less embarrassing things and then I actually get kind of excited and behave like a normal human being if an actor actually shows. But I'd still rather not.)
I have never stage-doored despite living in NYC for years and frequenting Broadway shows. I'm just too awkward and too get-me-home-or-to-a-bar after a show. However, Victor Garber did pass me on the sidewalk once right in front of my apartment building. I think my face registered too much excitement/recognition (even though I didn't say anything to him) because he kind of side-eyed me. SIde-eyed by Clown Jesus.
I always get over-excited at the words "stage door" because I think people are talking about my favorite movie.... Stage Door. Now I have to go look at pictures of Ginger Rogers.
Last year, after seeing Once, when confronted with Arthur Darvill at the stage door I blurted out "Oh god, I was cooler when I met Colin Baker!"

This was a lie; I was not even a tiny bit cooler when I met Colin Baker.

But I go to enough cons that I have interacted with famous-ish people who I do not fangirl hopelessly, and those generally go better: making small talk with the Czech dude from Stargate: Atlantis about the enormous Mucha poster I had just purchased in the dealer hall; accidentally inviting a very drunk Michael Rosenbaum to see Rocky Horror with me; explaining what Bar2D2 is to Gareth David-Lloyd. ("It's an alcohol-dispensing robot." "Ooh!")

It took two tries to work up the nerve to have a conversation with Darwyn Cooke-- the first year I chatted with the dude at the next table instead. The following year I was wearing head-to-toe '40s, complete with victory rolls, which I think endeared me to him.

I also once spent ten minutes in the Walk of Fame at Dragoncon, rooted to the spot, staring creepily at Ben Browder. Y'all, he is SO GOOD LOOKING.
EJO follows everyone back on Twitter. I know it doesn't really mean anything, but I definitely freaked out a little when I saw that Admiral freakin' Adama had followed me.
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Femaelstrom · 545 weeks ago

I was Very Into stage-dooring as a teenager, and while I'm usually shy and timid to a fault, sometimes when I'm nervous my brain kind of shuts down and I lose my sense of what is appropriate behavior.

This is the excuse I give when I explain why I almost climbed into Alan Cumming's car trying to get an autograph from him when I was 16.

His handlers kept saying "no autographs, no autographs" (I realized later he was in a rush to get to the Tonys; this was when he was in the Threepenny Opera) but I'd been waiting an hour and had a really high fever and I'd never met anyone so famous before so I wasn't used to being turned down, and none of this actually excuses what a DICK MOVE it was for me to decide I was special enough to follow him almost into his car to get my program signed.

Fortunately, he didn't remember me when I met him after Cabaret this summer, and I've chilled out a lot and no longer am horrible to very famous people.

Still, I prefer to meet more minor celebrities. Mads Mikkelsen and Katharine Isabelle had much more time to talk to me and were much friendlier (though I was so excited to meet Mads that I almost cried when he touched me, and all I could think to say to Katharine was "what was it like doing sex scenes with Hugh Dancy"...)
I met John Larroquette at the stage door for How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying and we had a pleasant chat!

Mostly because it seemed like nobody else was there to see him - no, it was all about Daniel Radcliffe, who came out a few minutes later. After getting crushed by two very burly, very sweaty Italian dudes, I somehow managed to actually say something to DanRad, which was: "When I was younger, I used to look a lot like you", to which he replied, "I'm sorry."

Moments to be treasured.
I saw spring awakening with the original cast 6 times and the 6th time I saw it I went up to Jonathan Groff (the 17 year old love of my life who I was convinced still at this time could possibly be straight and therefore into me) to tell him this fact, and he goes, in the most excited adorable tone ever, "That's how many times I saw Millie!!!!"

When he went on to date Gavin Creel, who was the lead guy in Thoroughly Modern Millie, I could only empathize, as he was living the dream, dating his on stage crush.

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