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You may have noticed that I am completely and utterly obsessed with Lin-Manuel Miranda’s basically perfect musical, Hamilton, the cast album for which you can either buy or stream in full here (I recommend buying it, obviously, but you can also get it for free if you have Amazon Prime.)

I have been listening to said album NON-STOP (that is also the name of a song), and one of the greatest pleasures of this has been re-discovering just how incredible Leslie Odom Jr. is as Aaron Burr.

It’s not that I didn’t think he was fantastic when I saw the show IRL, it’s that I was very, very distracted by the electric Daveed Diggs, who plays Lafayette and Thomas Jefferson. His parts are really fun! He gets to bounce around a lot! Also, to be fair to me, this is what Daveed Diggs looks like:

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IT’S DISTRACTING, okay?

But on re-listen after re-listen, I keep returning to Odom Jr’s “Wait For It,” which is really Aaron Burr’s ENTIRE SOUL in a song.

HA YOU HAVE TO BUY IT NOW TO HEAR THE SONG

It’s perfect. And it’s no accident that the other song that’s really taken over my heart with its complexity over time is “Dear Theodosia,” another Burr-heavy number. His musicianship is utterly, utterly incredible, and he REALLY sells Burr to us. You get Burr’s jealousy and his despair and his preoccupation with not losing his parents’ legacy, and his love for his daughter (WHO IS GONNA DIE IN A SHIPWRECK AND HE DOESN’T KNOW IT) and now I think about him, and Leslie Odom Jr, constantly.

As an actor, too, you always get the sense that he understands how MAGNIFICENT Hamilton is, which is important:

BROWN: Now that you have been doing Hamilton for some time and you’ve got another year to go, do you feel you get something new out of every performance?

ODOM: Well, this show, the reason why I had to do it is because I could sense from my early experiences with it that it was going to make me a better actor and a better person. It makes me a better actor because there are a lot of bad habits that you develop. Hamilton is a masterpiece. Lin doesn’t say that, that’s coming from me. I recognize it as a masterpiece. I have never worked on a masterpiece before. A lot of the material that I’ve done, quite frankly, it’s paid the bills, but it’s subpar material. People are doing the best they can within the constructs of television and how political and sterile that kind of environment can be. There are a lot of tricks you can develop to make that stuff seem better than it is, and none of that stuff works on Hamilton. Those tricks go out the window when you are confronted with a masterpiece. It forces you to develop a more honest, pure way of communicating the material. That’s when you can see what you’re made of as an artist; that’s when you really see what your talent is and what you are capable of.

Also, Odom Jr did one of those Grub Street Diet features for New York Mag, and I love him WHOLLY now:

I make it a priority to make sure my grandmother gets into town for any of my important life events. She lives in South Carolina, but she doesn’t like to fly, so she took the train. She stayed with family out in Queens, and I didn’t get to see her at all on opening night. This was the last time I could see her. We had a little date at Angus, where I had a burger, fries, mixed greens, and mint tea.

Thank you for existing, sir.

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So there is obviously a lot to love about this article and Hamilton and Leslie Odom Jr. in general, but can I just say my favorite thing of all is the MAGNIFICENT SHADE he throws at Smash in that interview?

A lot of the material that I’ve done, quite frankly, it’s paid the bills, but it’s subpar material. People are doing the best they can within the constructs of television and how political and sterile that kind of environment can be.
Bless your heart, Leslie Odom Jr., I'm sure they did do their best.

Also, favorite Burr lines / Leslie Odom Jr. deliveries? "It takes and it takes and it takes" is always haunting, but also I laugh every time I hear "We're reliable with THE LAAAADIES!"
30 replies · active 495 weeks ago
"Wait for It" is such a great song. I will confess that there are moments on the soundtrack that feel a little too exposition-y (though I appreciate it, since I haven't seen the show). But "Wait for It" is just so good. I think I will listen to it again right now.
5 replies · active 493 weeks ago
Ever since I found out that Burr was the grandson of Jonathan "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" Edwards, I've been having a hard time holding him responsible for anything bad he ever did.
10 replies · active 495 weeks ago
Along with "Wait For It," I think "The Room Where It Happens" is the other song that pretty much reflects his entire life. It contains everything - the longing, the jealousy, the ego, the anger, the sadness, the regret, the passion, the hope.
3 replies · active 495 weeks ago
The more I listen to the soundtrack, the more "Wait For It" absolutely blows me away.* The part in the last verse where it starts out quiet but then the percussion picks back up from underneath? I die. It's SO GOOD.

*do you see what I did there

ETA: Those Grub Street Diet things have me rolling my eyes HARD most of the time, but dude has apparently my exact taste in food. Solid menu planning, sir.
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anachronistique · 496 weeks ago

HE IS SO GOOD.

* His musicianship is, as Nicole says, astonishing. Crank up the speakers on "Room Where It Happens" and listen to what he's doing behind the ensemble. Hot damn. Listen to the way he pours the anguish and misery into "The World Was Wide Enough."
* He's also an amazing actor? He's so self-contained but he spends so much of the show slinking around the edges, watching and waiting, and so restrained that he's holding himself back even when he SHOULD dive in. And then - he shoots, he tries to go to Hamilton and he is pulled away. AUGH.
* He is HAAAAAAAANDSOOOOOOOOOOME. I mean, everyone in this show is stunning, but. (Sadly I cannot find any shirtless pictures but I recommend spending some time on the google image results for Mr. Odom and appreciating his beauty.)
* He favorites tweets that aren't about him but saying good things about the show because he's a team player.
* Did I mention he is handsome? And an amazing singer?
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEI4YC1uDOo I MEAN!!!
My husband took my mild obsession with Hamilton and just totally ran with it, he is OBSESSED. This weekend, we were having a serious discussion about religion/children/etc., and at one point I asked him something about his beliefs, what he'd like to pass on to our kids.

He thought for a minute or two, then finally said "I really see myself as more of a Burr than a Hamilton." He did expand on it a bit, but dude!
6 replies · active 496 weeks ago
When I read his name, I hear it in my head as spoken by the guy in the milk commercial, with a mouth full of peanut butter sandwich, mournfully, "Aaon Buh."
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Genevieve B · 496 weeks ago

So glad I'm not the only one obsessed with "Wait For It." I think it might be one of the most amazing songs from a musical I've ever heard.
4 replies · active 496 weeks ago
Thank you for sharing all of this! God, it makes me so happy that LMM and the rest of the cast have their careers made now (or so I choose to believe). Can't wait to see what LMM does next.
17 replies · active 495 weeks ago
OH MY GOD i DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEODOSIA BURR DIED IN A SHIPWRECK
9 replies · active 492 weeks ago
Hi I think Aaron Burr may be my favorite character in the show and possibly more interesting than Hamilton I'll just show myself out now

ETA: Also Leslie produced a video about opening night from the cast's perspective and it's amazing and you need to watch it
2 replies · active 494 weeks ago
"Wait for It" and "Non-Stop" are the songs that have been haunting me all week. A LOT of them have been stuck in my head, but those songs are very honestly making me think about how I approach life and what I want out of it.
4 replies · active 495 weeks ago
I still don't entirely understand how Miranda -- who has written one Tony-award winning musical (also nominated for best actor), one Tony-nominated musical, a third that seems destined to win a million more Tonys and was performed at the White Hosue, and who is working on the next Disney movie (eventually destined to be a musical), all by age 35 -- worries he's more of a Burr than a Hamilton.

Also can we discuss the similarities to Amadeus? (Though Hamilton was more actively against Burr than Mozart against Salieri.) I think that's partially why/how Burr is so sympathetic in this. (Jefferson is the biggest asshole in the soundtrack, just beating out George.)
7 replies · active 495 weeks ago
Yo where is that first quotation from?
Also relevant to our interests:

Which Schuyler Sister Are You?"

I'm Eliza (yaaaaaaas)
11 replies · active 495 weeks ago
My favorite is "The Room Where It Happens"-it's so catchy, and also that yearning to be involved, making a difference! Thanks Toasties to being so annoyingly effusive about "Hamilton" that I finally listened to the soundtrack all weekend!
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"I got a $1 slice on my way home because adulthood means that any day can be pizza day!"

oh noooooo- now I, too, am in love.
Would you all like to know that Leslie Odom Jr is lovely to work with and introduces himself to randoms who work in totally different departments of the theater and then remembers their names and says hello to them outside the building weeks later? He also was very organized in the part of his job that interacted with my job, and he sent very thorough emails.

He's also really short. But still beautiful.
4 replies · active 496 weeks ago
I usually resist musicals pretty hard, but I streamed this on NPR and 30 seconds into "Wait For It" I bought the whole dang thing on Amazon.
Some facts about Aaron Burr that I had to learn from Wikipedia:

Burr believed women to be intellectually equal to men, and hung a portrait of Mary Wollstonecraft over his mantel. The Burrs' daughter, Theodosia, was taught dance, music, several languages, and learned to shoot from horseback.

HE HUNG A PORTRAIT OF MARY WOLLSTONECRAFT OVER HIS MANTEL
3 replies · active 496 weeks ago
I have been obsessed with both "Wait for it" and "Dear Theodosia', but I've been going through cycles of obsession with nearly every other track on the soundtrack. Currently replaying the tiny snippet in "Take a Break" where LMM quotes Macbeth.
3 replies · active 496 weeks ago
So Aaron Burr says his mother was a genius, so I looked that up. (I listen to Hamilton with the Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr wikipedia pages open.) Esther Edwards Burr wrote a letter-journal from the time she was nine until her death at age 23. Here is the only thing she wrote about Aaron other than "Baby remains well" notes.

Aaron is a little, dirty, noisy boy, very different from Sally almost in everything. He begins to talk a little, is very sly, mischievous and has more sprightliness than Sally. I must say he is handsomer, though not so good tempered. He is very resolute and requires a good governor to bring him to terms.
16 replies · active 495 weeks ago
Also I would highly recommend reading Ron Chernow's Alexander Hamilton biography while listening to Hamilton. The book was clearly a major source for Lin Manuel Miranda, and it's wonderful to see how closely the songs track the real sequence of events in his life. Like "Farmer Refuted", a song which on first listen I didn't get much out of, but upon reading Chernow it becomes clear how the incident described pretty much launched Hamilton's public career. Also, Chernow pretty convincingly puts paid to the notion that Hamilton's mother was a "whore".
13 replies · active 495 weeks ago
PSA: The soundtrack is also available on Spotify for all your streaming pleasure!

(heh.)
I am inimitable, I am an original!
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angrypedestrian · 496 weeks ago

I was on a walk last night and caught some of the supereclipsebloodnewmoonpart1 while 'Wait For It" played on my listening device and it gave me a lot of feelings that I can't really explain, but they were FEELINGS feelings.

Also, this soundtrack is VERY good walking music.
2 replies · active 495 weeks ago
Dear Theodosia is really, really good, and Leslie Odom Jr. has an amazing voice. But...

(whispers his confession into a cave nestled deep within the earth's mantle)

...Lin-Manuel's pedestrian vocals do take me out of the song. The man is a genius playwright and composer/lyricist, but not so much of a singer.

Of course, that's not going to stop me seeing it a second time, or binging on the cast recording.
6 replies · active 495 weeks ago
It took me a full four days to listen to the entire soundtrack because I kept getting emotionally overwhelmed and having to take a break. I am not sure I could cope with seeing it live, because I would probably melt into a puddle from overwhelmed crying.
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Interesting Burr fact I discovered on Wikipedia today: he probably definitely fathered two children by his servant, who was a freed slave, while still married to Theodosia.

Presented mostly without commentary, other than good lord Founding Fathers, keep it in your breeches.
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tumblr has started referring to Thomas Jefferson as "America's Original Fuckboy" and with that perfect fact in mind, her are some excerpts from his letters to Angelica Schuyler.

"I think I have discovered a method of preventing this dejection of mind on any future parting. It is this, when you come again I will employ myself in finding or fancying that you have some faults. & I will draw a veil over all your good qualities if I can find one large enough."

He asked her to come with him on a vacation to America: "Let’s go back together then. you intend it a visit; so do I. While you are indulging with your friends on the Hudson, I will go to see if Monticello remains in the same place, or I will attend you to the falls of Niagara, if you will go with me to the passage of the Potowmac, the Natural Bridge, etc.,"

"Think of it, my friend, and let us begin a negotiation on the subject. You shall find in me all the spirit of accommodation with which Yoric began his with the fair Piedmontese." (this is a reference to a novel where Yoric and the fair Piedmontese have to share a room, and they set up ways for it to be chaste but then end up having sex.)
GOD he is so good. His voice on Dear Theodosia is so sweet- it knocks me out, I fall apart (I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING).

Also I've seen a lot of things comparing him to Salieri in Amadeus, which I can kind of see, but for me it's more Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar. Like, he wants to be friends, he wants to like him, but things just get so messy. I feel like Salieri was a hater from the start, and Burr definitely wanted to be pals. I think it's more painful and poignant because they start out friendly.
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This article sent me yet again down the Wiki rabbit hole, where I found this photo of one of A.Ham's kids, William. I'm not moved overmuch by the founding fathers, but Col. Wm. Hamilton, you do amaze and astonish.

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RubyRogers · 496 weeks ago

I've also been listening to the Hamilton soundtrack "non-stop" since it started streaming and the songs have been stuck in my head for days (not that I'm complaining). My brains keeps cycling through "Wait For It" and "Dear Theodosia" the most. The first time I heard them I was utterly floored, and I keep replaying them. I did not expect Burr to give me any feelings when I started listening to the soundtrack… and so I was utterly unprepared for the effect that Leslie Odom Jr. had on me. Gahhhh.

"Dear Theodosia" is especially upsetting when you remember that Burr and Hamilton both outlived the children they're singing to. Hell, poor Burr outlived even his grandson. It's like everyone he loved died early deaths…

(Also, the first time I saw someone refer to Lin-Manuel Miranda as LMM, I thought they were talking about Lucy Maud Montgomery…)
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fadeintodawn · 495 weeks ago

"I'm not standing still, I'm lying in wait" just KILLS. Such a perfect encapsulation of how someone views the world, and how they know the world is judging them.
One of the things I love most about Hamilton (and there are so many!) is that Burr is anything but a villain. From the moment he's introduced ("and I'm the damn fool that shot him") to the line "the world was wide enough for Hamilton and me" in the end, his actions are never depicted as evil, just misguided. And in Dear Theodosia, it's made clear that despite the differences in personalities, he and Hamilton had quite a bit in common. That's the tragedy of the whole thing.
Hate to be so dissenting, but am I the only one who doesn't think "Wait For It" is a highlight? It's tragic, sure, but it also feels so out-of-place to me in the musical - it's a little too pop, not enough hip-hop. Plus, it comes too soon after "Satisfied," which, for me, might be Act I's masterpiece.

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