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The night after Christmas finds me seated with relatives and friends at my in-laws’ crowded dinner table, enjoying a delicious meal and happily chatting about television — one of few topics that’s nearly always safe to discuss in mixed company. Of the fourteen people laughing and passing laden platters around, only one is new to me. Someone mentions my interview with Constance Wu of Fresh Off the Boat, and this, apparently, is her cue to look up and address me for the first time since we exchanged our initial his and nice to meet yous. 

“Do people ever tell you that you look just like everyone on that show?” she asks.

This question strikes me as so bizarre, so beside the point, that at first I think I’ve misheard. “Excuse me?” I wait for her to clarify, change course.

She repeats her question. She appears to be perfectly serious: “You must get this a lot,” she adds, when I don’t immediately respond.

Oh? Oh. Yes, people often tell me that I look just like everyone on a television show, even though most of them aren’t women. Or my age. Sure. That happens all the time.

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Every Asian American has fielded some variation on “all look the same.” As racial microaggressions go, it’s common as dirt. I know I should be able to come up with an answer, something brisk and witty, and bury this moment in the same place where I keep all such awkward memories. But for some reason, my brain just won’t cooperate. My face is burning, my heart pounding too loudly, and it’s painful to even consider making eye contact with anyone at the table.

I know I embarrass too easily. But I assumed I was safe here among family and friends, which makes it all the more unpleasant and jarring to be reminded of my difference as this woman perceives it. I’m upset with her for shattering my comfortable, happy holiday feelings; for bringing my race to the forefront when I had assumed it was irrelevant on this night, in this company. I’m upset with her for forcing my relatives and my spouse and my kids to witness this, even if they have not all registered my humiliation. Her slight was likely unintentional, not a deliberate means of putting me in my place — but she’s a stranger to me, so I can’t know for sure. Maybe I’ve unwittingly offended her, and some part of her wants to take me down a notch or two. 

She spoke during a lull in the conversation. I know that everyone heard. If anybody wanted to step in, make a joke to lighten the moment, or even just say “um, she doesn’t look like anyone on that show,” now would be the time. My husband — the only ally I am absolutely sure of at this table — is two seats away, and since I refuse to look up there’s no chance of reading his expression. His silence is the one that hurts a bit, if I’m honest. But this is his family, these are his friends, and anyway it’s only been a split-second since the words left the woman’s mouth and no doubt he’s running through the same agonizing, silent calculus I am, trying to think of what in the world he could say that would acknowledge the offensiveness of her comment without ruining the party. I assume my in-laws and friends are in the same boat, waiting to defuse the situation, perhaps change the subject if I say something ill-advised. Or maybe — as unlikely as it seems — they haven’t even noticed the awkwardness? Is it possible that no one has noticed but me?

Do I really want to force all the people at this table to choose sides in the ultimately unwinnable “was or wasn’t it racist” debate?

I begin rifling through possible responses. Any one of them could get the job done: Sure I get that a lot, but only from racist people who think all Asians look the same! or That’s funny, has anyone ever told you that you look just like everyone on practically every other TV show? or even the brutally direct Why on earth would you say something like that? For one wild second I allow myself to imagine speaking freely, with no attempt at self-deprecation or careful diplomacy.

And then I fast-forward through the rest of the exchange, imagining where it would go from there. Any satisfaction I felt would no doubt dissipate in the face of my questioner’s shock and anger. Our friends and family would feel obligated to jump in and mediate. I’m uncomfortable right now, sure — terribly so — but does that mean I have the right to make everyone else uncomfortable, too? Do I really want to force all the people at this table to choose sides in the ultimately unwinnable “was or wasn’t it racist” debate?

I consider my children, who probably aren’t tracking this conversation — not just because they don’t watch the television show in question, but because they are still young and, for all our intra-family conversations about racism, they do not yet expect to encounter it in their everyday lives. I generally try to push back when someone says something offensive in their earshot, especially when it’s something I think they might understand. But I’m sure tonight’s remark has gone right over their heads, which means I can let it go unchallenged without failing them as a parent.

All these thoughts steamroll through my mind in the span of a few seconds, calculations firing while my cheeks burn and I stare at my plate. For the last time, I consider defending myself. Just giving voice to the confusion and anger and mortification I feel boiling in the pit of my stomach. But I know, in an instant that reminds me of countless others like it, that I’m not that person. The truth sinks in: I am the only one who can make sure that everybody keeps having a good time.

“Uh…no,” I hear myself say. The words come out on a shaky, awkward laugh, in a voice I hardly recognize. I’m still blushing, I still can’t meet anyone’s eyes, but my farce of a smile proves there’s nothing to see here. This is a nice party, my smile clearly says, and we’re all having a nice time. As the faint roaring in my ears subsides, I can recognize that the laughter in the room seems a bit too loud, as if I’ve told a hilarious joke instead of turning bright red and stammering something barely articulate. Later, while discussing the moment in whispers in his parents’ guest room, my husband and I will take turns citing that over-the-top laughter as possible proof that at least some of the people at the table recognized the awkward moment for what it was. 

After I swallow my pride and just say “no” my questioner asks if anyone watches “that other ethnic show,” and I decide I cannot listen to this: I start clinking my fork loudly against my plate and talking to my younger daughter, heaping more food on her plate so I won’t have to acknowledge the discussion. Everybody else carries on eating and chatting, having a good time. I don’t say much. It appears I’m still at a loss for words.


The social pressure on people of color to keep the peace, not get mad, just make sure everyone keeps having a nice time — even when we hear these remarks in public, at our workplaces and schools, in our own homes and from our friends’ mouths — can be overwhelming, bearing down on us in so many situations we do not see coming and therefore cannot avoid. What does our dignity matter, what do our feelings amount to, when we could embarrass white people we care about? When our white relatives or friends or colleagues might experience a moment’s discomfort, anxiety, or guilt?

When I think about the relative size and scope of microaggressions, I can’t help but feel ashamed of my inadequate responses. If these are just small offenses, not meant to wound, why can’t I ever manage to shut them down effectively, ensure they aren’t wielded again and again against others? You don’t have to force strangers to see or acknowledge systemic racism and the lives it takes and brutalizes just to point out that hey, friend, all Asians are not interchangeable! You don’t have to charge people to search their souls or assign them difficult reading. The question I got at that party was neither original nor especially terrible — it was such a small thing! — so, given more nerve, a cooler head, and the absolute assurance of support, couldn’t I have come up with other, smarter, sharper things to say? 

If these are just small offenses, not meant to wound, why can’t I ever manage to shut them down effectively?

It is that unspoken “better” response that haunts me over a week later. I had the opportunity to stand up for myself, my people, and every people reduced to a monolith; to feel something apart from anger and embarrassment and loneliness, something more akin to cold satisfaction. Everyone likes to believe they would be the one to stand up for someone or call out racism in a crowd. But not only am I not always that person, under a variety of circumstances you probably wouldn’t be, either. (Heaven forbid we have uncomfortable conversations with our family members over the holidays!) I was in a roomful of family and friends that night, surrounded by well-meaning liberals and allies — in other words, people who don’t see me as a chink, a robot or a walking stereotype; people who know and genuinely care about me as an individual. I think and read about these issues all the time; I make my living with words. I was as relieved as anyone to leave that moment behind and pretend it never happened.

It’s not as if I had no power that night. Even if our options aren’t stellar when we’re hit with “casual” racism in a space we once thought safe, we can and do make some sort of choice every time — to inform or ignore, challenge or absolve. The down side to every option on the table, for the person facing that decision, is that the fallout is then perceived as our responsibility. When did the party stop being fun for everyone? When we got mouthy. There is no real way for us to win, whether we cling to some notion of “the high road” or attempt to call out the racism we experience in order to sleep better that night.

In all likelihood, my questioner meant no offense. She just forgot her manners or, more likely, slipped and gave voice to the truth she believes, the truth that lives in her head. Unlike her, I didn’t have the luxury of forgetting myself or my place. At the end of the night, I’m certain I was the only person still thinking about that moment over dinner — I was the one left replaying the words over and over in my mind, second-guessing my bearing and my behavior, wondering if I’d done the right thing. As far as I know, I am still the only one who feels anything about it at all.

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Holy smokes, this is powerful.
WHEW BOY.

This is perfect, this part especially: "What does our dignity matter, what do our feelings amount to, when we could embarrass white people we care about?"

It reminded me of the time my roommates had a talk with me because I was making them "uncomfortable" by talking in generalizations about white people. God forbid, I know.

Great great great piece, posting this on all social media forever.
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Wonderful piece. I'm white, so I can only relate via the same gut-punch feeling I get from misogynistic remarks/behaviors (ESPECIALLY in front of my kids), but I wanted to share one satisfying method I've found to dealing with them: say, politely, "What do you mean?" and repeat it as necessary. Because, eventually, the person will have to articulate aloud those asshole beliefs -- all Asian people look the same, all women are inherently dumber, etc. -- that they'd only implied before. And once they do that, it's much easier for you (and others) to respond with "what on earth is wrong with you?" without seeming like the bad guy. Or the person will give up in frustration, and that's a win too?
56 replies · active 447 weeks ago
Oof. This is exactly why I decided to be that killjoy. Because i can take it, I really don't mind ruining everyone's good time, but not everyone can, and not everyone does.
6 replies · active 481 weeks ago
I remember you mentioning this in a comment thread(?) and being like 'Holy fuck.' Same to 'that other ethnic show.' So awful.

It's a sad thing that I've definitely got better at not just sitting there being a well-meaning white ally through having dealt with homophobic microaggressions and being the one to ruin the party. It's like I want to yell at the people who don't back me up in those situations, but then I can think of all the times I haven't done the same for someone else... our intentions don't form us, our actions do, 'well-intentioned' means fuck all when you can't actually help someone out who needs it.
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Excellent, and a piece that has to be shared. How many times are we told we are the ones making it about race? For me, a lifetime of it. I know that forever I'll be told I'm too sensitive when I'm asked "Why don't you have a hot body like all Colombians" and "I thought all Latinas were hot." done. with. this.
7 replies · active 472 weeks ago
Yep yep yep, relate so hard to this article. I have yet to come up with a good strategy for dealing with the mildly racist comment, because you're right, there is just no way to win - you're either a party pooper or a coward who let racism happen unchecked. I might try the "what do you mean?" tactic because it beats just getting up and leaving, which has heretofore been my thing.
"But not only am I not always that person, under a variety of circumstances you probably wouldn’t be, either."

Oof. Yep.
I can't say that I've been in your position, since I don't think there's a one-to-one correspondence between sexist remarks and racist remarks, but they always lead to a lose-lose situation. You can say something... and ruin the mood, become known as that killjoy. Or you can say nothing and slowly curdle on the inside.

True story: my dad recently told me one of his female employees is "feminist, but she has a sense of humor about it, unlike you". I didn't tell him that that because he's her boss, it's likely that "jokey", "light" reactions to his sexist remarks are probably the result of her doing this type of calculus in her head.

I do think that part of white privilege is that you're (paradoxically, unfairly) taken a little more seriously when you react to a racist remark. I try to make use of that. To a certain extent, I have no skin in the game, and that means that the calculus is different: because people can't immediately discern an emotional cause, they more or less have to default to assuming your point is coming from a place of logic.
5 replies · active 474 weeks ago
Oh god, it's two-way unpleasantness. When you do say something, the burn of having a stupid argument never leaves--and very often a 3rd party WILL blame you for spoiling their evening. When you don't say something, the guilt and shame for not saying and representing and standing up for oneself lasts, too.

This is great. I am going to reread this many times. Thanks for writing it.
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diaryofamadeditor · 481 weeks ago

1) This is beautiful. And thought provoking. And cathartic. And thank you for processing, reflecting, and writing for us all.

2) For next time, because there's always a goddamned next time: "No one has ever told me I look like Hudson Yang before--that'd be weird AF--but I'll take the compliment if you mean I look like Constance Wu. Let's all talk about about beautiful and brilliant and bright she is & let me brag about the fact that I did a stellar interview with her in the New York Fucking Times." It points out the inherent racism, swiftly deflects any racist/not racist debates, and affirms just how awesome you are.

3) You are great.
I'm usually so shocked I can't think of anything to say until days later. Perhaps I'll memorize, "What do you mean by that?"
Thank you for writing this. Maybe next time I'll be ready.
Oof and to follow it up with "that other ethnic show."
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My *compulsion* to educate my all-white, all-male coworkers resulted in the suggestion that this get played at lunch as-needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2zyjbH9zzA
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While I've always been one to speak up when the (micro)aggression is directed at other people,* I have let things pass when directed at me because it's circumstantially difficult/awkward if I did. What I've noticed though is that in recent years I'm less and less inclined to do that and more and more inclined to respond with a sharp remark that would make everyone else uncomfortable.

I've been wondering whether this makes me a "better" person or not. Is standing up for yourself against racism/sexism/etc, knowing that it almost certainly won't change the person's mind and knowing that it would make your friends uncomfortable and mar the event, necessarily the 'better' choice? I don't know. Is it actually kinder to let it go? I think partly the reason why I've been questioning it, is because I prefer to say something for my own satisfaction and generally speaking, I find biting my tongue in such situations far more difficult than saying something. I guess this makes me sometimes doubt that what I do is the 'right' thing since it also happens to be the thing that comes more naturally, rather than a brave or considered act.

Nevertheless despite questioning it sometimes, I do generally feel that it is (a) my prerogative to respond assertively, (b) any awkwardness is entirely the fault of the person who made the remark whatever other people may feel, and (c) the duty of others to step in and back me up and that I have every right to be angry if they don't.

Do other people wonder the same thing?

* EDIT: - To be strictly accurate, I do also try to take my cue from the person affected in question, assuming they're there and assuming it's a borderline remark. Like it does sometimes happen that someone protests on someone else's behalf and that someone else doesn't want/need anything like that and you're making them feel bad, which is obviously not the goal. Also, I once didn't say something til the next day even though the remark was not directed at me (or in fact anyone in earshot) because a) I was flabbergasted because it was so unexpected (b)it was one of my boss's best clients and I was staying at his house and I kind of needed to keep the part-time job. However, I did say something the next day and very fortunately, the client responded very well and apologised profusely, which was also unexpected and a great relief. I am fortunate though in that I knew my parents could and would support me temporarily while I looked for another job so the stakes were not quite as high as they could have been and I certainly wouldn't think any the less of a person who doesn't speak up when there's financial survival at stake.
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Dangbattleship · 481 weeks ago

Years ago I was at a party, where people were going around telling the worst jokes they knew (not a good idea for obvious reasons). When one guy told a racist joke, a friend of mine -- early 20s, white, quite Christian, nicest person I know -- who was standing next to him just reached out and slapped him right across the face. Not recommended for most situations but it sure worked that time.
10 replies · active 480 weeks ago
I went to a very white, very privileged law school. There were two Asian Americans in my class, and both were women. One was of Vietnamese heritage, the other was first generation Chinese American. These women not only looked nothing alike, but their names were as different as could be.

My first day of the most difficult class (tax), our professor made a point of going around the room and asking everyone their name. The student would answer, and the professor would carefully and deliberately repeat it aloud. The next day, he went around the room and identified each person by their name, presumably to demonstrate that if he could learn the names and faces of each student in the room overnight, we the students could memorize the key provisions of the Internal Revenue Code over the course of a semester.

I am sure you see where this is going. The next class, he dazzles everyone with his ability to remember everyone's names. And then he gets to one of the two Asian American girls in the room. He stumbles and stammers for a few minutes, then snaps his fingers and causally says "I have a 50-50 chance here."

I was stunned. I was horrified. I looked around the room and absolutely no one shared that reaction. Except the student whose name he was trying to recall, and the other Asian American woman two rows up. I will never forget the look on either of their faces. My face felt hot and my mouth was dry because I wanted to say something - anything - and I didn't. I spoke to one of the girls after class and she quietly thanked me for (1) noticing and (2) not saying anything and making a bigger deal of out it.

I did finally say something, by the way. At the end of the very last class of the semester, I went into his office hours and had a terribly awkward conversation. I did my best "you're not a racist, but you said something incredibly and offensively racist" approach. He was completely defensive, albeit in a very polite Midwestern way, and assumed my west coast liberal leanings were clouding my perception. I told him about my conversation with one of the students involved and he sputtered a little more doubt and shut the discussion down.

I got out of there, convinced that I had done more harm than good, but a few days later, he came up to me and thanked me in a very genuine way. Said he realized he had been completely defensive, but having thought about it, really understood what I was telling him. He apologized to me for the comment, which was weird, and also said he was going to apologize to both women.

Anyway. It isn't ever easy to speak up, and timing is everything. You may still have the opportunity, Nicole.
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Hi Nicole. I'm so glad you're writing about this. I'm sorry you felt alone out there, but you're not alone here. I wish I had something like this when I was in high school and usually the only brown person in a class. In biology class my teacher was talking about selective mating and turned to me and said, "But your parents are going to choose for you, right?"
My jaw dropped and I went "uhhh," as the class laughed. "No?"
"Ah, a modern woman," he said, as the class laughed again, in horror.
"Uhhhh," I said, until my friend (the OTHER brown girl in the class) said, "Dr. Friedman, not all Indian people get arranged marriages!"
The class laughed again and the teacher went on with his lecture and I was left with the shame of the fact that I couldn't defend myself. Me, the girl who made feminist rants or railed against the lack of minority representation in all my spare moments.

Anyway, after that I just can't be chill about this -- or awkward. I just get angry and make a weird, pointed joke. Like the other day at the DMV when a 90 year old woman turned to me and said, "Are you Indian?"
"No, I'm American," I said, narrowing my eyes. "What about you?"
(She answered American and then we had a pleasant enough conversation about her visit to India and her children who were all retired.)

My race sass doesn't always work, and it's not very charming, but it's the one of the few things I draw a hard line about. Also, sometimes it is charming -- like one time I was escorting this speechwriter for work (he was also in his 90's) and he asked where my parents were from. And I said, "India. Where are YOUR parents from?" And he laughed and I think he said Denmark before settling in Wisconsin??? Which was pretty cool??? Anyway, yeah.
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This conversation is even more appalling than it sounded when you described it on Twitter. You gave her a chance to retract or reframe, but instead she doubled down. "You must get this a lot"? " “That other ethnic show"?! Yikes, lady: NOPE.

Here's the tricky part for bystanders, for people who overhear racist remarks but aren't targeted by them: Alone with this woman's statements, I'd feel free to shut her down with "WHOA, what does that mean?" or "NOPE" or even a quiet "That's… pretty broad, Marcia." (I named her Marcia in my head, idk why, no offense to actual Marcias out there. I've known some Marcias, they've been great.)

But as A Well-meaning White Lady™ seeing you outface a microaggression (and assuming I was aware it was happening, from within my bubble of privilege), I'd be trying to gauge your reaction and calibrate my own to yours. I wouldn't want to presume to navigate this experience you have too often and I never have directly, or to seem to instruct you or rescue you from it.

I'm not trying to let your dining companions, or myself by extension, off the hook. I'm trying to assess the space between
A. standing up against insidious racism so my POC friends, family, and colleagues don't feel they always have to be the ones to do it;
B: respecting the particular POC's preferred mode of handling an ugly situation in the moment.

Because yes, you shouldn't feel like it's always and only your responsibility to confront racism in a room full of people who care about you; it's not okay that her kind of quiet, everyday racism is normalized by people not bristling over it. But I just don't know where the line is between standing up for the people and principles I care about and trampling those same people's reactions in favor of principles. That's an inadequate explanation, just as saying I'm sorry this happened to you in what should have been a safe space is inadequate. But they're both true, inadequate as they are.
3 replies · active 479 weeks ago
I relate to this so hard! My biggest question is how do you all cope with the situation replaying itself in your head over and over, long after the event? I sometimes feel like I'm giving the comments more power, or the person more ill will, or myself an ugly shame spiral that goes on and on! Sometimes I find myself reliving events even if I've fully confronted and dealt with the person and they've changed their ways, and that doesn't seem fair...

Is there a way to flatly acknowledge what you should have done differently, hopefully learn from it, and then get your dumb brain to stop retreading?
4 replies · active 481 weeks ago
Anyone else humming this song right now? TMBG, speaking the truth since 1990.
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InsertCoolNameHere · 481 weeks ago

Hi Nicole! I have gotten comments like this too, my dad is Indonesian, my mother was white. I sometimes think that people don't know how truly offensive this is. I have run into it countless times. My strategy is diffusing with humor, but that is my go to in most uncomfortable situations. I usually say "I know, we all look alike to you" but with a laugh and for me, it lets me get my jab in but not have the evening/interaction fall apart. No one ever knows what to say after I say that. It is annoying to have to shoulder the burden of keeping the interaction from falling apart, but I have worked hard over the years to let that go, if that makes sense. This is their sh*t, not mine.

My other response when someone asks me some variation of "you have such an interesting look, where are you from" is Staten Island.

Love to you!
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My face is burning right now, thinking of all the times I've been in this situation.... I can recall EVERY time I've had to choose between keeping silent to "keep the peace," and responding genuinely.

The older I get, the harder it is to stay quiet, and by now I'm completely done with making sure white people are comfortable. I've done that enough times and it accomplishes nothing. Even my most eloquent, calm explanation of why-that-was-offensive still gets me branded as "angry," so what's the use of trying? And I have tried so many times, but it's exhausting. And if my humanity and the fact that YOU HURT MY FEELINGS has no value to those people, then why should I value their dinner party? Or in fact, this dinner table...?
FLIP THE D*MN TABLE!!!
and thats my new philosophy.
at the very least, those assholes don't get to count me as one of their "token non-white friends." That's right, I'm taking back the token.
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What I really with someone has said her is "has anyone ever told you you look like everyone on Cheeers?"

This was really powerful, and as a white lady I'm reminded of my role as ally. I do think that other people could have called her out AND deflected the attention away from OP. It's very easy to embarrass someone in a situation like this into silence when you're not the target, and I will try to make sure I try to do that when I can.
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thanks for sharing... in situations where I know few people, I tend to lower my expectations on people's critical thinking and understanding of power, prejudice and privilege. That allows me to be more sociable :-)
I don't feel particularly good about it right at this moment, but for remarks directed at me personally my go-to strategy is usually "say nothing, let them live in ignorance."

I don't actually have a lot of faith in my ability to manage the situation in such a way as to not have the opposite of the intended effect (said the coward). If I have an overwhelming amount of social capital, maybe, but somehow the racism seems to happen a lot less often when that's true. Shocking, I know.

I guess in most situations (and especially in geographic areas where racism is more out-front and pervasive), I just don't think I have a lot to gain by standing up for myself right then. If it happens in the small circle of friends where I expect better, yes, but honestly I'm not that interested in helping co-workers or friends of friends be less racist. I'd rather use my limited influence to get them to cover my shifts, or let me steal fries off their plate. Most nights, I'd rather have fries than justice.
Your husband: "Y'know, people tell me she looks like Oprah Winfrey. I bet you get that a lot too."
"I’m uncomfortable right now, sure — terribly so — but does that mean I have the right to make everyone else uncomfortable, too?"

yes, you absolutely do have the right. I'm sorry that no one spoke up. but, please, henceforth and from now on, resolve to call people out. resolve to make people uncomfortable when they are being racist. if people let a party be ruined because you stuck up for yourself, then that's on them. if they blame you, well, now you know the truth.
8 replies · active 480 weeks ago
Thank you for sharing this powerfully articulate piece; I'd like to think there's a hope to imagine a different conclusion where perhaps there is a middle ground to actually discuss these careless microaggressions WHEN they happen, but as you detail the very tense silence of digesting the situation, the prospect looks bleak. I think this goes beyond white privilege into the more general territory of group mentality: wouldn't the flip side, where in a group full of Asians where one Asian member has a white partner suddenly finds themselves having to field all sorts of casually racist things about "selling out" and "dating white," have some similar tensions? Of course the racial power dynamics are starkly different, but the "mark of difference" as you say is almost always stated. I know in my group of Asian family and friends, the "difference" is practically ingrained the normal conversation. One especially stark tactic is when I hear my Chinese friends switch to speaking Chinese in a "side conversation" in the presence of someone who doesn't speak it, just to slip in some comments they know the "different one" won't understand.
Thank you. I could have written this post (if I were a decent, more articulate writer) 15 years ago (and many more times after that). No kids at the time, not married, but dating my husband-to-be and at a dinner party hosted by his mother. I don't even remember what was said any more, just remember the struggle between giving into my anger and upsetting everyone or finding a witty response (and not finding any) that put her in place but keeping the peace or letting it go and maintaining the status quo. My husband was not in the room when it happened. Sometimes I still think of that moment, inwardly cringe and reprimand myself for not speaking up or being quick enough to find that witty response.
Flipping awesome and powerful essay, thank you for writing this.
So well put. Someone (I forget who) once said that "racism is the magic that makes your ignorance my problem." In the time that you took to think all of this through thoughtfully and carefully, your dinner party acquaintance has likely given this zero thought since it happened. That's time you could've spent with your children or partner, time you could have spent at hobbies or with friends -- instead you have to re-hash careless racist comments. Thank you again for sharing.
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Beastnessa · 481 weeks ago

The nice thing about being Latina and passing for white is I never feel uncomfortable calling white people out on racism in my earshot. Some prettttty crazy things get said when they don't realize they're in mixed company. Needless to say, I have no problem ruining parties. I have a ton of sympathy for this difficulty speaking out though. I've definitely seen it happen with friends. I guess in a sense I feel protected by looking white and so have no problem being rude to strangers because there's a little less danger for me to do so. This is why I think of myself as a spy when among all white strangers, waiting for the jerky ones to out themselves.
I'm so impressed by your ability to take something so uncomfortable and offensive that happened to you and distill it into such a thought-provoking essay that, once again, I want to spread far and wide so it can change the world for the better.
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Gina Kim · 481 weeks ago

This gave voice to my exact feelings about two incidents that happened over the holidays featuring the same woman (a casual acquaintance of my new boyfriend). The first time, I was silent, much as you describe for much the same reasons. The second time, I called her out. But I'll admit, we were in a less intimate setting the second time, and it was the SECOND TIME in a week. We love in a small town, I thought. This will just keep happening. She'll just keep trying to compliment me by saying I look like "Asian Björk" (the first time) or say things to prove she's not racist, like "I'm not gonna tell you you look *just* like Margaret Cho. I bet you hear that all the time. She's funny." (The second time). Thank you for writing this piece and sharing it. It will help me to better articulate my anger and frustration on this subject.
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I am white, so I cannot speak to dealing with racist remarks in this context; if I hear something, i say something, but it's easier for me because I'm white, and I know that, and frankly, that's WHY I say something whenever possible. That said, I am an engineer, and I work in an office in which I am the only full-time female engineer, and I do so relate to the whirring of the mind gears and the blushing and the silent calculus and trying to decide if I want to be the "angry feminist" today. I'm not saying the experience is the same, because it's not, but mostly I'm trying to say that this piece is incredibly powerful in the way it describes what goes through our heads in moments like that.

When I think about the relative size and scope of microaggressions, I can’t help but feel ashamed of my inadequate responses. If these are just small offenses, not meant to wound, why can’t I ever manage to shut them down effectively, ensure they aren’t wielded again and again against others?
There's a reason they're called microAGGRESSIONS. They are aggressive, and just because they're micro doesn't meant they don't hurt just as much as any other aggression. The "micro" is only there to inform the victims that the offender probably doesn't even realize what they're doing, and that any response will be taken as an "over-reaction" or "being too sensitive". I try to remember this whenever possible; it rarely helps in the moment, but it sometimes helps with the guilt afterward.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that over the holidays.
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I try to use my words but I have a horrible nervous tic of laughing when I find something uncomfortable or unpleasant. I've recently started trying to repurpose this by cutting off the laughter and saying, "I'm not laughing because that was funny; I'm laughing because you actually felt it was acceptable to say that, and that is hilarious."
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Emmykatt · 481 weeks ago

Powerfully written. I am so sorry you had this over the holidays. I have no idea whether my own strategies would work in your personal scenarios, but I have grown more comfortable with one way of taking control over such offensiveness.
Over time, I have found my way out of the do-or-don't mess. I do not deal with a commonly known situation (although my ethnicity does feed into the ignorant questions sometimes). However, I have had to hear so many very inappropriate things said about my physical makeup and background often enough that I have developed the following response structure.
I pretend that the person has a simply a "minor case of misinformation," at least in my assumed tone toward them. (I am a career academic, which helps me "pretend" well.) I lightly, but clearly, take the onus off of the person who said it (and those in the room listening with confusion and discomfort) by saying,
"Common misperception. Where did you say you were from again? Oh, yes, I can see where you might not have enough familiarity to know this. But to answer your question, yes, something like that has come up before. People who _know_me_ know that's not something worth bringing up. Oh? You meant it as a compliment? Yes, they are all very attractive people on that show. But with time, I'm sure you might notice that they and I look nothing alike. Aside from being brunette and biped, I suppose, ha. (Then insert quickly:) Would someone please pass me more of that delicious casserole?"
It might disgruntle a few people who want the whole thing shoved under the rug. But I find that most listeners who are my loved ones and good friends feel relieved when I do this--and tell me so later. The person in question may look a little thrown off, but my not coming across as "emotional" (one of the stereotypes I deal with personally) usually helps them recover. At the same time, my response tips them off enough to stifle any further "commentary." It's been road tested, shall we say.
Good luck in future encounters with these characters. I believe there really IS a way to meet these awful moments in ways that won't make you feel that "damned if you do, damned if you don't" mess of emotions. It doesn't always work perfectly, but almost always I feel better for having politely altered the contours of the conversation.
I look forward to reading in upcoming columns about how you discover even better ways than mine for countering this.
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This is so wonderfully written and powerful. I can only relate in perhaps 1/10th of a fashion, being Irish-born (adopted to and grew up in the US) and sometimes having been the butt of some fairly obnoxious stereotyping. I have zero tolerance for intolerance of any sort. And yes, I am that cranky white bitch who will say something. I find as I get older (55), I am more apt to say something. But I do understand the nuance and fragility of some situations, and would never want to embarrass a friend by standing up for him/her in a way that could cause further problems. It's such a dilemma and I certainly don't want to be exercising white privilege in taking on a battle perhaps best left alone. If there's the possibility of somehow getting a quick word in to and approval from the friend offended, like a whispered "is it okay if I say something?" or some body language to gauge it, I would go for it. I do think any opportunity we have to stamp out racism or just gently remind people it's not okay to make even micro-aggressive comments like that, we should take it. So sorry you had to experience that and feel so disempowered. If you ever need a cranky, assertive white Irish bastard to be your wing-woman at a dinner table, I'm your lady.
I feel a similar way that you do all the time. It's nice to see it put in words. Great piece.
This is really powerful and has me remembering and thinking about some of the micro aggressions that I've witnessed and not called out because of a combination of shock and the social calculus you describe.

As a white woman, I want to be braver about calling out casual racism because I think it's important and easier for a white person to do it, but it's not exactly easy, at least not for me. There are a couple incidents in my past that really bother me because I wish I'd spoken up or said more - I like to think that obsessively thinking about them will prepare me better in the future (rather than just turning me into an anxiety ridden social outcast).

Thanks to some of your articles on The Toast, I have become more proactive about responding to casual racism in my extended family, particularly in front of my nephew, who was adopted from Thailand by my white Jewish SIL. Last Thanksgiving, watching the coverage of Ferguson together was particularly fraught - but for once I didn't just keep quiet (although the responses I came up with later were MUCH better than whatever I said at the time).

In general, my two default responses to WTF offensive questions are "Wow." and "Why do you want to know? / Why are you asking me this?"
My Carrie Fisher three feelings are reserved for animals, books/tv/movies, and food. As a consequence, I have zero fucks to give about human shenanigans. Racists have terrible boundaries; it's up to me to fix that.
Invite me to any and all parties! I am happy to ladysplain why what that person said is wrong and hurtful.
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monksalive · 481 weeks ago

i dunno, this might not be that much of a comfort, but as a white person who's held my tongue in moments where i wished i'd spoken up, i feel pretty sure that you were not the only one up late still thinking about it and wondering how to do it better next time.

the catch-22 for me as a white ally in that situation is "do i say something in defense of this person so they don't have to (again) be the one instigating the teaching moment? or do i not say something because that might be perceived as a white person (again) speaking for/speaking over a person of color?"

i've started trying to personalize teaching moments as a way to de-escalate while still getting my point across... "oh man, that would make me so sad if someone said that to me. can you imagine?"

thank you for opening up and sharing your story. i think it's the only way we'll get better together.
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Fantastic article! While we are not married (and we don't have children between each other), my BF of 5 years is White; I am Black. He also has a daughter who is 1/2 Black (we've been together since she was 1). For me, I feel that the stereotype of the "Angry Black Woman" has worked in my favor; because I haven't really had to field race insensitive comments from his family. Plus my BF is an angrier Black woman than I am. One time we were playing a trivia game and we had teams. There were categories in popular music and sports; and by default if the correct answer was a Black athlete or singing group, the question would inadvertently be directed towards me. This happened about three times before my BF said "Stop looking at her to answer all the sports and music questions! Just because she's Black doesn't mean she automatically know the answers!" His mother and aunt stumbled over apologies...embarrassed by the faux pas. Quite innocuous to me. Flattering even perhaps?

But what is more concerning to me, which I have raised issue with, is a kind of attitude of bewilderment that they have towards my BF's daughter. They love her to pieces. However they say things like "Ask Shona to fix your hair so that it looks pretty." or "Shona, maybe you can teach her how to do that dance?" or "Shona what do Black families do on {enter random holiday here}" (they do not have a good relationship with her mother and the only conversations my BF and his family seem to have with her are arguments). I try to encourage them and explain that I do not need to be a mediator between them and her. Yes, I have a lifetime of being a Black woman and can share my experiences with her and them and help. However I don't need to be a gatekeeper. And so what if you can't braid Black hair. Don't be afraid to do what you can. Don't be afraid that you are going to slight her by negating her Black culture. We may be of different races, but American culture is the foundation for more commonalities between us than differences. My father is an immigrant and I have more in common with my BF's White family, in terms of lifestyle, then I do with my own Black/Indian (I'm 1/4 Indian too) family that lives in Jamaica.

And ultimately I think that is what really bothers us and boils our blood. We are the same in 90% of the things. Yet White folks focus on the 10% that differentiates us. It is such a small part but it puts us in the "other" category. Like we are put behind a chainlink fence and we are on the outside looking in. We can talk and be friendly and interact over the fence. But still...the fence remains up and won't be taken down -- or even worse, it is denied that the fence is even there.
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MyNameIsNotConnie · 481 weeks ago

Exactly this! Just last night I took an improv class where the instructor kept calling me by the name of the only other Asian woman in the class (even though I'm a short-haired tomboy and she was 10 years older with long hair). I didn't say anything because it was improv and we were all supposed to be light-hearted. Thank you so much for this article!
I feel one of the best ways to respond to statements or jokes such as this, or any sort of sexist or racist remarks, is to respond with ignorance (even if you know what they mean), and ask follow up questions like, "Oh I don't get it, how do we look alike?". By having to delve further and describe why usually results in the person crashing and burning, all while you remain calm and innocent
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Two years ago I was sitting outside of a coffee shop in my hometown talking with a man that everyone in the little downtown area affectionately called "Grandpa" about how I was planning on buying a place in Atlanta.

As soon as I mentioned the Atlanta bit, he looks at me says "But isn't it a little... dark down there?"

The most bizarre part of this is that I in no way pass as white. I'm Colombian, and ethnically ambiguous enough that I've grown up with people asking me "what are you?"

So I did what had been ingrained in me to do- I laughed. I said "Grandpa, I'm a little dark"

And he tried to argue with me that I wasn't that kind of dark. To this day, I still wonder why my first instinct was to laugh. Reading this helped.
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Albatross · 481 weeks ago

Years ago, a new employee of mine asked a smart, accomplished MBA at a meeting, "Where are you from?" He asked only her, because her grandparents were from India. She stammered, "Uh, Iowa."

Enraged I shouted from two feet away, "WHY WOULD YOU ASK THAT! NEVER ASK THAT AGAIN!" Then I glared at him in silence for a long moment and re-started the meeting without speaking to him the rest of meeting.

The thing is, I still burn with shame years later. He was my employee, I invited him to the meeting and he disgraced both of us in front of an important colleague.
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Been there...amongst very nice, polite and casually racist people. What gets me is that even if I point out the offensiveness of certain remarks, I don't think it would change the beliefs in the person's head.
Sometimes its good to be southern. You can just look at the person straight in the eye (condescendingly of course) and say, 'bless your heart'. Pause long enough for it to sink in (about a second or two), and then ask someone to pass the peas.

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